George Zimmerman Verdict: NOT GUILTY!

[FrankRep]

There is no evidence- only Zimmerman's word.

George Zimmerman Passed Police Lie Detector Test Day After Trayvon Martin Killing
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/george-zimmerman-lie-detector-421395

 

[Nobexliberty]

He said rioters and you say black savages?

Rioters no matter what race are savages, they commit crimes because they know the chance off any legal punishment happening is extremely low. If I were in a sitution where someone could easely steal something from me without any chance of the law stepping in someone who riot would steal from me. They do not care about simple morality but only themselfs and are uncivilised savages. Many if not most of them would commit 1st degree murder or rape if they believed the chances of getting caught were very low. How he percieved it as racist I do not know.

 

[daviddee]

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[Ender]

George Zimmerman Passed Police Lie Detector Test Day After Trayvon Martin Killing
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/george-zimmerman-lie-detector-421395

So? Many people can pass a lie detector test- so they are not admissible.

 

[James Madison]

So? Many people can pass a lie detector test- so they are not admissible.

Face it. There wasn't a case against Zimmerman; the only reason we had a trial is because Barry and the DOJ took a break from gun-running and murdering Afghanis to stir-up what was an open-and-shut case. I rest easier knowing a guilty man went free than if an innocent man was convicted.

 

[daviddee]

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[RickyJ]

Face it. There wasn't a case against Zimmerman; the only reason we had a trial is because Barry and the DOJ took a break from gun-running and murdering Afghanis to stir-up what was an open-and-shut case. I rest easier knowing a guilty man went free than if an innocent man was convicted.

Like the defense attorney said, the only thing he was guilty of was defending himself. From all the known evidence that is likely what happened. No evidence contradicts the self defense claim by Zimmerman.

 

[TER]

The burden of proof is on the prosecution. We have these things, although most ignored, called: LAWS.

Did the prosecution prove their case? No.

Case closed.

Like in other reasons in life, we only have the word of a person as proof. Though it may appear to us inaccurate, though in practice,
it is often in fact the best proof there is. This is true not only in faith and in one's spiritual life, but in the courts as well.

What should commence now is closure and healing. This case hyped by the media and made to be more then it was (for sinister and self-serving purposes) should be understood to be what it was: a tragedy.

This excessive and dangerous racialization of the public discourse has not been accidental, but deliberate, contrived by the same who have always benefited by sowing hatred amongst those they consider to be slaves and cattle, lower then them and of less value. The obsessive greed and malice glamorized by those who wield earthly power over others. Those who have chosen Mammon over God, and darkness over light.

 

[Ender]

Here is what I think happened:

Zimmerman confronted him - "What the fuck are you doing"
Trayvon retorted - "Anything I want to do fucking cracker" - Everything in his tweets suggests he was not the type to cower and tuck tail
Zimmerman (probably showing weakness at this point) - "What are you doing in my neighborhood"
Trayvon face to face with Zimmerman - "Anything I want to do"
At this point, I believe Trayvon probably dropped his shit and start pummeling Zimmerman - Got him to the ground and started pounding.
Zimmerman is in a daze, but was able to get to his gun and shot Trayvon in the heart.


This is exactly how things always go down. Regardless of State, regardless of other factors, but this fight was different as Trayvon did not calculate that Zimmerman had a gun. Zimmerman, from the eyes of a thug, was an easy target.

If Zimmerman did not have a gun, it would have been another Reginald Denny situation.

Do not be bamboozled by the 13 year old Trayvon images the news played 24 x 7.

This was the Trayvon that was killed (The big kid on the far right):

I know who Trayvon was- I have been following this story for a year. I have been surprised and appalled by many so-called libertarians who jumped immediately to the conclusion that Trayvon was at fault because he wore a hoodie. I have stated this elsewhere.

Zimmerman's story has never jelled- and his past is more questionable than Trayvon's. He already lied once to the judge about having no money. I am surprised at how many still believed his every word- even the stuff about having his head banged on the ground 25 times. which did not happen. Once, yes.

 

[Ender]

Face it. There wasn't a case against Zimmerman; the only reason we had a trial is because Barry and the DOJ took a break from gun-running and murdering Afghanis to stir-up what was an open-and-shut case. I rest easier knowing a guilty man went free than if an innocent man was convicted.

I agree with your last sentence, but disagree with the first. I'm no lawyer and I could have shown a better case than the prosecution.

Just sayin'.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

lol not going to happen for me. fuck that!

Update:

NAACP Twitter:

Over 100K signed the petition to the Dept of Justice on behalf of #TrayvonMartin - add your name: http://bit.ly/14PXbDI #JusticeForTrayvon​

Open a Civil Rights Case Against George Zimmerman
http://www.naacp.org/page/s/doj-civ...ampaign=GZnotguiltyshareTWT&utm_content=share

 

[James Madison]

I know who Trayvon was- I have been following this story for a year. I have been surprised and appalled by many so-called libertarians who jumped immediately to the conclusion that Trayvon was at fault because he wore a hoodie. I have stated this elsewhere.

Zimmerman's story has never jelled- and his past is more questionable than Trayvon's. He already lied once to the judge about having no money. I am surprised at how many still believed his every word- even the stuff about having his head banged on the ground 25 times. which did not happen. Once, yes.

And that is enough to convict Martin of assault.

Bottom line is Martin had the opportunity to defuse the situation and chose not to. He could have kept walking, he could have called 911, he could have asked Zimmerman why he was being followed and explained that he was visiting a family member. He chose to escalate and inflame the situation. He saw Z as an easy target.

 

[Nobexliberty]

And that is enough to convict Martin of assault.

Bottom line is Martin had the opportunity to defuse the situation and chose not to. He could have kept walking, he could have called 911, he could have asked Zimmerman why he was being followed and explained that he was visiting a family member. He chose to escalate and inflame the situation. He saw Z as an easy target.

And Z gave Martin what happens when you attack people but people screaming racism made the situation worse.

Edit: Zimmerman just used his right to self defence.

 

[RickyJ]

I agree with your last sentence, but disagree with the first. I'm no lawyer and I could have shown a better case than the prosecution.

Just sayin'.

No you couldn't have because there was no evidence that contradicted what Zimmerman said happened and there was eye-witnesses and physical evidence that corroborated what he said happened. Your entire argument is nothing but one of emotion, not facts.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Unless you are a cop.

Please keep in mind that this is 'merica (fuck yeah). Zimmerman just won the State of Florida case.

There are two more coming:

1. Civil case by the Martin family.
2. Civil rights case by Eric Holder

In 'merica, we will keep in suing and bringing charges on every level until you are broke and locked up in a rape cage.

-Fuck yeah

 

[Weston White]

To be convicted of stalking in most states, the stalker must display a criminal intent to cause fear in the victim. Various statutes require the conduct of the stalker to be "willful," "purposeful," "intentional," or "knowing." Many states do not require proof that the defendant intended to cause fear as long as he intended to commit the act that resulted in fear. In these states, if the victim is reasonably frightened by the alleged perpetrator's conduct, the intent element of the crime has been met.

Stalking pertains to an ongoing form of harassment or intimidation; it is not a one time occurrence, such as following or tailing somebody—especially when one is doing so because they find the actions of the other suspect. To be stalked, a history of such relatable intent must first be established.

 

[Weston White]

I know who Trayvon was- I have been following this story for a year. I have been surprised and appalled by many so-called libertarians who jumped immediately to the conclusion that Trayvon was at fault because he wore a hoodie. I have stated this elsewhere.

Zimmerman's story has never jelled- and his past is more questionable than Trayvon's. He already lied once to the judge about having no money. I am surprised at how many still believed his every word- even the stuff about having his head banged on the ground 25 times. which did not happen. Once, yes.

Why do you keep misrepresenting that this was all about a hooded sweater? That is like the third time I have seen you post that guff. This has nothing at all, whatsoever, to do with neither any article of clothing nor race, none, zip, zero, nada.

Well the prosecution lied as well, so what does that say about them? They can't be trusted either, right? Really, who cares what Zimmerman alleges, when you boil away all of the embellishments and boasting, the remaining facts speak for themselves; and the sum of those facts still favor Zimmerman’s version of events.

 

[Slutter McGee]

the whole situation is fucked up. two men. yes ...both were men...did something stupid. both of them. One lived. The other died. What more can you say.

Slutter McGee

 

[Slutter McGee]

Here is what I think happened:

Zimmerman confronted him - "What the fuck are you doing"
Trayvon retorted - "Anything I want to do fucking cracker" - Everything in his tweets suggests he was not the type to cower and tuck tail
Zimmerman (probably showing weakness at this point) - "What are you doing in my neighborhood"
Trayvon face to face with Zimmerman - "Anything I want to do"
At this point, I believe Trayvon probably dropped his shit and start pummeling Zimmerman - Got him to the ground and started pounding.
Zimmerman is in a daze, but was able to get to his gun and shot Trayvon in the heart.


This is exactly how things always go down. Regardless of State, regardless of other factors, but this fight was different as Trayvon did not calculate that Zimmerman had a gun. Zimmerman, from the eyes of a thug, was an easy target.

If Zimmerman did not have a gun, it would have been another Reginald Denny situation.

Do not be bamboozled by the 13 year old Trayvon images the news played 24 x 7.

This was the Trayvon that was killed (The big kid on the far right):

I get so sick of this shit. It doesn't matter your opinion of the kid. good. bad. whatever. The whole fucking thing is tragic. Its too bad assholes on both sides...you are most definitely included, are trying to politicize this.

Slutter McGee

 

[Ender]

Stalking pertains to an ongoing form of harassment or intimidation; it is not a one time occurrence, such as following or tailing somebody—especially when one is doing so because they find the actions of the other suspect. To be stalked, a history of such relatable intent must first be established.

Not necessarily true.

From Wikipedia:

Stalking is unwanted or obsessive attention by an individual or group toward another person. Stalking behaviors are related to harassment and intimidation and may include following the victim in person or monitoring them. The word stalking is used, with some differing meanings, in psychology and psychiatry and also in some legal jurisdictions as a term for a criminal offense.

According to a 2002 report by the National Center for Victims of Crime, "Virtually any unwanted contact between two people [that intends] to directly or indirectly communicates a threat or places the victim in fear can be considered stalking"[1] although in practice the legal standard is usually somewhat stricter.

According to law:

Florida

784.048 Stalking; definitions; penalties.—
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Harass” means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person which causes substantial emotional distress to that person and serves no legitimate purpose.

(b) “Course of conduct” means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, which evidences a continuity of purpose. The term does not include constitutionally protected activity such as picketing or other organized protests.

(c) “Credible threat” means a verbal or nonverbal threat, or a combination of the two, including threats delivered by electronic communication or implied by a pattern of conduct, which places the person who is the target of the threat in reasonable fear for his or her safety or the safety of his or her family members or individuals closely associated with the person, and which is made with the apparent ability to carry out the threat to cause such harm. It is not necessary to prove that the person making the threat had the intent to actually carry out the threat. The present incarceration of the person making the threat is not a bar to prosecution under this section.

Ohio

A "pattern of conduct" means two or more actions or incidents closely related in time. The Ohio statute does not define "actions or incidents" or "closely related in time." The courts have very liberally interpreted the term "pattern of conduct" to protect stalking victims

Most state laws are similar.