Gaza Humanitarian Flotilla attacked [breaking News]

how exactly does Israel claim that Gaza's waters are Israels??


Might make right??
 
pcosmar said:
I am waiting for the survivors stories to come out.
They can't kill them all. Several European diplomats were on board.

The UN is in special session over this.
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Yeah, it's funny that on the other ships (where I understand the European politicians were) there were no problems or confrontations. The only ship where the shit hit the fan was the Turkish one with the Hamas-people. Maybe it's just coincidence that the IDF commandos went crazy only on this one ship and shot all those peace-loving activists.
 
Imaginos said:
Israeli administration is THE Fourth Reich in the Middle East.
Nazi administration is alive and well in the Middle East.
Majority of Israeli state policies are identical to Nazi Germany under Hitler minus gas chamber.
For an example, if you are non Jewish then you can't even get married to Jewish person in Israel because the state does not aknolwedge it as legit marriage.
Sounds familiar? Yeah, that's the Nazi's state policy to promote purification of German blood.
This time, the Fourth Reich is doing it to purity 'the Chosen's blood instead of German. LOLOLOL.
But in a way, the Fourth Reich is much more advanced than the Third Reich because instead of Joseph Goebbels who only had influence in Germany, now we have ADL and majority of MSM running by Goebbels wannabes, (i.e. ultra propaganda for Israel) have influence on the entire planet.The Fourth Reich propaganda machine is running its brainwashing operation on the entire planet and it has been super duper successful.
Now, that's what I call high-tech operation. LOLOL.
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quoting for posterity. this is priceless.
 
Hiki said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The flotilla was sailing into blockaded Israeli waters fully understanding that they are not allowed to do so and will be intercepted if they continue. The people on the ship knew exactly where they were going and that IDF forces would board the ship, and then they decide to attack the soldiers.

They got just what they deserved.
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I'm glad you feel that way. Good-bye.
 
of course it comes as a huge surprise that after an israeli pr nightmare internet forums everywhere are getting slammed with new members attempting to defend the indefensible...
 
lester1/2jr said:
note the irony of healthpellets avatar and israels 3 billion a year
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no kidding. toss the tantrum throwing babies off the American teat and see how long they survive pulling this kind of crap.

the government of israel is the s* talking little brother who pops-off knowing big brother's got his back. nothing more. a paper tiger.
 
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fj45lvr said:
who doesn't believe the Liberty was attacked?? even the Israelis state publicly it was attacked....just a "mistake" (no matter that a US flag was flying in a stiff breeze while they were attacked for hours).
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Few posters rejected it firmly. It appears to be we may have paid infiltrator(s) on our site.
Sending paid infiltrators is common practice of ADL so I wouldn't surprise if one of them working to influence opinion to more Israel-friendly one.
 
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constituent said:
of course it comes as a huge surprise that after an israeli pr nightmare internet forums everywhere are getting slammed with new members attempting to defend the indefensible...
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I think it's the JDL damage control specialists being called to action.
 
constituent said:
of course it comes as a huge surprise that after an israeli pr nightmare internet forums everywhere are getting slammed with new members attempting to defend the indefensible...
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Yes, it's interesting isn't it? Doesn't it make you wonder who these people are? Are they just your typical zionists who do it for fun, or is there something more to it? Is there actually some organization behind it?

Funny how they don't want to face the fact that the blockade is illegal and can be considered a war crime.
 
I'm sure you wont care about this but this is from the IDF's point of view:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3896796,00.html

A brutal ambush at sea

Ron Ben Yishai recounts bloody clash aboard Gaza-bound vessel: The lacking crowd-dispersal means, the brutal violence of ‘peace activists,’ and the attempt to bring down an IDF helicopter

Our Navy commandoes fell right into the hands of the Gaza mission members. A few minutes before the takeover attempt aboard the Marmara got underway, the operation commander was told that 20 people were waiting on the deck where a helicopter was to deploy the first team of the elite Flotilla 13 unit. The original plan was to disembark on the top deck, and from there rush to the vessel’s bridge and order the Marmara’s captain to stop.

Officials estimated that passengers will show slight resistance, and possibly minor violence; for that reason, the operation’s commander decided to bring the helicopter directly above the top deck. The first rope that soldiers used in order to descend down to the ship was wrested away by activists, most of them Turks, and tied to an antenna with the hopes of bringing the chopper down. However, Flotilla 13 fighters decided to carry on.


Navy commandoes slid down to the vessel one by one, yet then the unexpected occurred: The passengers that awaited them on the deck pulled out bats, clubs, and slingshots with glass marbles, assaulting each soldier as he disembarked. The fighters were nabbed one by one and were beaten up badly, yet they attempted to fight back.


However, to their misfortune, they were only equipped with paintball rifles used to disperse minor protests, such as the ones held in Bilin. The paintballs obviously made no impression on the activists, who kept on beating the troops up and even attempted to wrest away their weapons.


One soldier who came to the aid of a comrade was captured by the rioters and sustained severe blows. The commandoes were equipped with handguns but were told they should only use them in the face of life-threatening situations. When they came down from the chopper, they kept on shouting to each other “don’t shoot, don’t shoot,” even though they sustained numerous blows.


‘I saw the tip of a rifle’

The Navy commandoes were prepared to mostly encounter political activists seeking to hold a protest, rather than trained street fighters. The soldiers were told they were to verbally convince activists who offer resistance to give up, and only then use paintballs. They were permitted to use their handguns only under extreme circumstances.


The planned rush towards the vessel’s bridge became impossible, even when a second chopper was brought in with another crew of soldiers. “Throw stun grenades,” shouted Flotilla 13’s commander who monitored the operation. The Navy chief was not too far, on board a speedboat belonging to Flotilla 13, along with forces who attempted to climb into the back of the ship.


The forces hurled stun grenades, yet the rioters on the top deck, whose number swelled up to 30 by that time, kept on beating up about 30 commandoes who kept gliding their way one by one from the helicopter. At one point, the attackers nabbed one commando, wrested away his handgun, and threw him down from the top deck to the lower deck, 30 feet below. The soldier sustained a serious head wound and lost his consciousness.


Only after this injury did Flotilla 13 troops ask for permission to use live fire. The commander approved it: You can go ahead and fire. The soldiers pulled out their handguns and started shooting at the rioters’ legs, a move that ultimately neutralized them. Meanwhile, the rioters started to fire back at the commandoes.


“I saw the tip of a rifle sticking out of the stairwell,” one commando said. “He fired at us and we fired back. We didn’t see if we hit him. We looked for him later but couldn’t find him.” Two soldiers sustained gunshot wounds to their knee and stomach after rioters apparently fired at them using guns wrested away from troops.


2 errors

During the commotion, another commando was stabbed with a knife. In a later search aboard the Marmara, soldiers found caches of bats, clubs, knives, and slingshots used by the rioters ahead of the IDF takeover. It appeared the activists were well prepared for a fight.


Some passengers on the ship stood at the back and pounded the soldiers’ hands as they attempted to climb on board. Only after a 30-minute shootout and brutal assaults using clubs and knifes did commandoes manage to reach the bridge and take over the Marmara.


It appears that the error in planning the operation was the estimate that passengers were indeed political activists and members of humanitarian groups who seek a political provocation, but would not resort to brutal violence. The soldiers thought they will encounter Bilin-style violence; instead, they got Bangkok. The forces that disembarked from the helicopters were few; just dozens of troops – not enough to contend with the large group awaiting them.


The second error was that commanders did not address seriously enough the fact that a group of men were expecting the soldiers on the top deck. Had they addressed this more seriously, they may have hurled tear-gas grenades and smoke grenades from the helicopter to create a screen that would have enabled them to carry out their mission, without the fighters falling right into the hands of the rioters, who severely assaulted them.
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tjeffersonsghost said:
My view is Israel can do whatever they want in what they feel is their self interest. I dont think we need to back them up on it. Let them reap the rewards or problems of their own choices just like we have to. Our support of Israel is not in our national interests because of the choices the Israeli government makes. It causes resentment towards us because we support whatever decisions they make good or bad.
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+1
 
fj45lvr said:
How about the "sovereignty" of Gaza?? Israel claims the sea bordering it? What a joke.

If Israel doesn't like getting attacked maybe they should have thought twice before they violently stole lands from people thinking that they'd "grow old and forget" (to quote their arrogant leader).

The worm is finally turning and many of us Jews are happy to see it....its been long over due.

No CLOWNS, or American Jews speaking the truth about the zionist regime allowed
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Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair's Sister-In-Law commented on a visit to Gaza:

"It's the World's Largest Concentration Camp"

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=154789
 
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