Gays For Ron Paul?

[giskard]

Is there such a group?

 

[DRV45N05]

If not...

Maybe you should start one.

 

[ThePieSwindler]

ask Justin Raimondo to spearhead it, since hes is well known in both gay San francisco circles as well as antiwar libertarian circles.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Some of our DC delegation started a group.

 

[giskard]

DRV, I'm not gay, so I wouldn't be a convincing person to start "Gays for Ron Paul".

I'm having trouble convincing some gay friends that Hillary is a politics-as-usual, warmongering scumbag, and that RP being pro individual rights, is pro gay. I don't understand where Hitlary's appeal to gays comes from.

 

[bszoka]

I've already started a facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6699671620

I also created a store to sell t-shirts for this group at cost at:
http://150624.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/

If anyone is interested in assisting with the group, please let me know. I'd like to promote it and get more content up.

 

[jake]

I'm having trouble convincing some gay friends that Hillary is a politics-as-usual, warmongering scumbag, and that RP being pro individual rights, is pro gay. I don't understand where Hitlary's appeal to gays comes from.

probably because she is a woman. don't see how that means anything though

 

[giskard]

I'm thinking part of the appeal is that gays tend to be "liberals"... ironic, because neither Hitlary nor Obama voted against the Patriot Act and the Bomb Iran resolution.

 

[TheIndependent]

Someone should contact the Log Cabin Republicans. They're the largest such group in the U.S., and despite some people saying otherwise, are actually quite numerous and effective. You don't always hear them, but when they can be heard, they make it count.

See the anti-Romney ad they developed as proof. It's on YouTube.

That said, I know of many gays in politics in D.C. who are probably leaning Paul, and I'm working on some gay/lesbian friends to get them to see how a Paul administration will better their lives with freedom. just because their sexual orientation is different, it doesn't mean we should be leaving anyone flat on their ass. Everyone deserves a voice and this time it's one most Republicans would rather tell to shove off than get support from, which is sad.

 

[giskard]

bszoka, good stuff, gotta get that out on the general www.

 

[fortilite]

You know about some of these ones already, see if you can make a pitch to these guys to be a guest at any meetings coming up. Do it locally, contact your local chapter.

Log Cabin Republicans - there will be war hawks here but there will also be many open minded people. So many RP supporters are disgruntled republicans, and the Log Cabin's definitely have good reason to be disgruntled.
http://online.logcabin.org/chapters/

Outright Libertarians - I'm sure they're mostly supporting him anyways, but call just to make sure.
http://www.outrightusa.org/chapters.html

Pink Pistols (Gay Gun Group)
http://www.pinkpistols.org/local.html

 

[Danny Molina]

I don't see why any gay republicans wouldn't support Dr. Paul. Though they'd probably like him better if he was a proctologist instead of an OBGYN.

I kid I kid.

 

[OptionsTrader]

I'm thinking part of the appeal is that gays tend to be "liberals"... ironic, because neither Hitlary nor Obama voted against the Patriot Act and the Bomb Iran resolution.

Words like liberal and conservative have been misused so many times the words have no meaning anymore.

Yes gays should support Ron Paul, because he will treat them just like any other individual. No "group" is going to get prefferential or bigotted treatment from a Ron Paul administration. I suspect that gays want to be left the hell alone just liek everyone else that is damn tired of the government encroaching in our personal lives, our money, our economy, our educations, our emails, and sending our young people to other countries to die based on propaganda and lies.

 

[Hope]

Studies show that 25% of people who identify as homosexual are Republican.

We need to let them know about Ron Paul! If they don't support him, chances are that it's because no one has told them about him yet.

 

[JustAnotherV]

2nd this

Someone should contact the Log Cabin Republicans. They're the largest such group in the U.S., and despite some people saying otherwise, are actually quite numerous and effective. You don't always hear them, but when they can be heard, they make it count.
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This is a good idea I have heard of them and there was somehting in the last debate about this that came up. Of course in the primary this might scare away more social conservatives, but Ron Paul is about principle not politics, so I trying to get a their attention might be pretty valuable.

Of course in a general election, it would also really take the wind out of one more democratic sail...

 

[runderwo]

Words like liberal and conservative have been misused so many times the words have no meaning anymore.

Yes gays should support Ron Paul, because he will treat them just like any other individual. No "group" is going to get prefferential or bigotted treatment from a Ron Paul administration. I suspect that gays want to be left the hell alone just liek everyone else that is damn tired of the government encroaching in our personal lives, our money, our economy, our educations, our emails, and sending our young people to other countries to die based on propaganda and lies.

They also won't get a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

 

[dircha]

Congressman Paul supports Don't Ask Don't Tell, opposes federal Hate Crime legislation, and wants to strip federal courts of jurisdiction to rule on same sex marriage laws.

I haven't heard definitively where he stands on stripping federal courts of jurisdiction to rule on homosexual sodomy laws. Does anyone know where he stands on a Constitutional right to privacy?

These are all issues that I typically hear the GLBT community advocating opposing positions on.

Where do Log Cabin Republicans stand on these issues?

 

[honkywill]

Reminds me when I was out campaigning at a fair and these two gay college dudes walked by.

I got their attention handed some info over, looked at one straight in the eyes "He's a Republican who is FOR INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES."

He said thanks and that he would check him out.

I communicated that fact so well that I astounded myself, it was probably the best connection I've ever made with a complete stranger in so few words.

I've also been met with little objection by my handful of gay friends. I think them knowing that I support someone alone says that whoever it is I'm supporting isn't some crazy wanting to impose morality on others.

 

[fortilite]

My gay roommate is a war hawk and a mild socialist (surprised he isn't voting for Rudy ), so I can't get him on board. But he never said anything bad about Ron Paul relating to gay issues.

Definitely hit up the Log Cabins asap.

 

[xd9fan]

Forget group rights....there is no such thing...in the Constitution
how about Individual Rights/Liberty for Ron Paul

The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
Ayn Rand