Gay marriage is NOT AN ISSUE!

[TheTexan]

That is like saying:

Government involvement in rice is an issue. Government involvement in brown rice is not an issue.

It's like arguing over whether or not we should allow medical psilocybin in addition to medical marijuana. Of course people should be allowed to use psilocybin, in whatever way they like. But arguing over whether or not people should be able to use psilocybin in the context of medicinal use is a complete waste of time and missing the point, just as is arguing over gay marriage.

Because if you want to argue for gay marriage in any consistent way, you also need to argue for polygamy, and a host of many other things, until eventually your argument is just "get government out of marriage."

 

[FreedomFighter1776]

The rights of all to contract as they wish for any purpose that is not illegal is not a red herring. It is not "not an issue". It is as much of an issue as any other.

Gay marriage is a divisive issue. If you support the government giving legal rights to one class of people and not the same rights to another class of people then you need to rethink the issue within the realm of property rights. It is not within the scope of the government to determine that a legal contract cannot be valid based upon the sex of the individuals contracting. If it is held that the sex of the individuals contracting is the deciding factor in rendering the contract void (or unable to be brought into existence) then it can be argued along the same line that the race or any other immaterial fact can be used to render the contract void.

If we were focusing on gay marriage to the exclusion of all else then I see where it would be a problem. That is currently not the case.

Stand with liberty, even the liberty for others to do what you might not choose to do.

 

[TheTexan]

Stand with liberty, even the liberty for others to do what you might not choose to do.

Aside from a few bigots, everyone is on the same page here.

I just don't have any special sympathy for gay people specifically. Not that I don't like gay people. I do not think their actions are immoral, I wish them all the best, and believe they have every right to be free from tyranny as we all do.

But polygamists deserve freedom just as much as gay people. When we talk about gay marriage specifically, and ignore the others, we're basically becoming a special interest group. You for example, didn't even mention polygamy. I know you support their freedoms as well, but my point is that as long as we focus on special interests instead of root causes, you're just playing whack a mole. Whack one mole and another will pop up.

I want everyone to have freedom. The way we do that is becoming champions of getting government the fuck out of everything, instead of becoming champions of special interests.

 

[TheTexan]

While you guys argued about how marriage affects insurance, the USA used appx 30million of stolen money to kill or imprison about 500 people.

This.

 

[Bosco Warden]

Damn, five people quoted this picture?

I Knew I should have cropped that before I posted it. I WAS AT WORK!! lol

The point I should have made clearer was that Govt likes to pick these bullshit issues for the masses to fight over, either one of these issues are not going to have an impact on the overall direction of the country, they are political footballs for the masses to play with, nothing more.

Someone even neg rep'ed me, that is just low! you bastard, I know where you LIVE! or not.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

I hope 1950s america comes back. Even with homophobia. And this is coming from a self hating bisexual

I hope you imagine your hot imaginary MD girlfriend as a stay-at-home mom in a skirt baking cakes instead, then.

 

[Revolution9]

I hope you imagine your hot imaginary MD girlfriend as a stay-at-home mom in a skirt baking cakes instead, then.

She might be worth paying attention to as a possible wife if her personality is fine and she doesn't have a chip the size of a plywood sheet on her shoulder.. As stated before. You don't understand men at all. I think you may have been indoctrinated. I am surely a male pig for pointing this out.

Rev9

 

[pochy1776]

I hope you imagine your hot imaginary MD girlfriend as a stay-at-home mom in a skirt baking cakes instead, then.

There were female doctors in america during the fifties. Only they were not Hot, dressed like men and were probably Nazi Dykes (Weaver, I am Looking at you!)

 

[Nirvikalpa]

She might be worth paying attention to as a possible wife if her personality is fine and she doesn't have a chip the size of a plywood sheet on her shoulder.. As stated before. You don't understand men at all. I think you may have been indoctrinated. I am surely a male pig for pointing this out.

Rev9

No, just an idiot because it was a joke. Carry on.

 

[MelissaWV]

... too freaked out.