Gay marriage is NOT AN ISSUE!

[LibertyEagle]

What's your point? I still don't agree with the government FORCING integration, either. I still believe it should be up to each of us where we send our children to school, to choose for ourselves who we want to be around, and to run our private businesses as we see fit. This is a part of individual liberty. Or, don't you believe in that?

I happen to agree that gay marriage is not the issue that we want to be leading with in our movement. But, I'm also not going to sit here while you twist libertarianism into something that goes against its very basis of individual liberty and private property rights.

 

[jmdrake]

Yes, they can. Just not as easily as those who can free ride on their spouse if they happen to not have the money for it.

If the company they work for offers domestic partner benefits they can. If said company is so against gays that it wouldn't consider DP benefits, what makes you think it will then hire gays once gay marriage is federalized?

I think you mean, nobody is denied emergency procedures, but many operations and procedures are life saving and life changing, without being emergency and immediate life threatening. I don't support Obamacare.

You're supporting Obamacare logic.

 

[angelatc]

I'm not stupid. You're stupid.

(Sinking to the intellectual level of the opposition. Well, not quite. I at least managed to speak in words instead of pointing to a picture.)

 

[AuH20]

The human species is much wiser than the myopic libertarian party I'm sorry to say. Do you think any of these so-called "trends" occurred in a vacuum?? A series of trial and error over hundreds of years.

 

[angelatc]

Yes, they can. Just not as easily as those who can free ride on their spouse if they happen to not have the money for it.

Even that depends on the employer. Most of the companies I've worked for made the employee pay for the family's insurance coverage even if they paid for a portion the employee. And it was hardly free.

 

[Nickels]

Even that depends on the employer. Most of the companies I've worked for made the employee pay for the family's insurance coverage even if they paid for a portion the employee. And it was hardly free.

still easier to qualify and obtain than without the option at all, isn't it?

 

[angelatc]

still easier to qualify and obtain than without the option at all, isn't it?

No idea. I've never been big on trying to force people to give me things they didn't want to give me. As far as I know, getting insurance is simply a matter of signing a paper and passing over a check.

It's the second part that people seem to get all upset about.

 

[Icymudpuppy]

While you guys argued about how marriage affects insurance, the USA used appx 30million of stolen money to kill or imprison about 500 people.

 

[jmdrake]

While you guys argued about how marriage affects insurance, the USA used appx 30million of stolen money to kill or imprison about 500 people.

+rep.

 

[Acala]

While you guys argued about how marriage affects insurance, the USA used appx 30million of stolen money to kill or imprison about 500 people.

Could not + rep, though richly deserved for this.

 

[QueenB4Liberty]

While you guys argued about how marriage affects insurance, the USA used appx 30million of stolen money to kill or imprison about 500 people.

+rep you too! </endthread>

It isn't an issue, it's only a distraction.

 

[Brian Coulter]

It isn't an issue, it's only a distraction.

A manufactured one at that. You'd think RPFers would be savy enough not to get hooked through the eye.

 

[TheTexan]

Government cannot solve this problem EXCEPT by getting out of the way. Anything else will only shift the problem around and increase government power by keeping the people divided. So there is NOTHING to do about it other than working to eliminate government involvement.

This

 

[pochy1776]

I actually supported segregation on a local level. I even opposed the civil rights act (only one title of course.) Also the "unearned moral superiority" earned by the activists of gay marriage and black rights ended up making both groups protected minorities. If anything, while gays are slightly better off today. Black unemployment and Black prosperity has been at its worst in 60 years. You probably know that from reading Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell. 2 AWESOME black libertarians.

 

[pochy1776]

sorry, but in 40 years we'll be lucky if we maintain the quality of life today. sure, we'll still look stupid for arguing small issues, but it won't be because we've overcome and settle it.

I hope 1950s america comes back. Even with homophobia. And this is coming from a self hating bisexual

 

[Southron]

I hope 1950s america comes back. Even with homophobia. And this is coming from a self hating bisexual

I don't think the 1950's will come back anytime soon or at least not in our lifetimes. Things seems to go in circles, but over long periods of time.

 

[Nickels]

I don't think the 1950's will come back anytime soon or at least not in our lifetimes. Things seems to go in circles, but over long periods of time.

I agree. Cultural Marxism has won big time.

 

[PierzStyx]

See this is why I'm against teh LP. It supports such statist big government issues as government regulating and controlling social and religious institutions like marriage.

 

[pochy1776]

I don't think the 1950's will come back anytime soon or at least not in our lifetimes. Things seems to go in circles, but over long periods of time.

Nobody seems to be angry at me when i said i hated the civil rights act as well as calling gays and blacks the oppressors.

 

[pochy1776]

I agree. Cultural Marxism has won big time.

At least in the 50s, there was real food and kids were not doped on ritalin. Huh, Anti-Psychiatry..... makes the libertarian movement look bad.