Gay marriage bill signed into law in New Hampshire

[heavenlyboy34]

Marriage does not belong to the state; it is not up to them to sanction it. I would hope those in the libertarian movement would support the liberation and privitization of marriage. The state has done nothing to preserve it and they are redefining an age old institution as if they had a right to define it in the first place. Furthermore, the benefits of reduced taxation should not be unequally extended to couples of any kind. This is movement is not an affront to heterosexuals, it's an affront to unmarried individuals.

Nice!

 

[ceakins]

Gays do not have the right to be married. Our rights come to us from God, not the State. When the State declares that gays have the "civil liberty" to be married, they have created a new right which was not endowed on them by their Creator.

Those of you championing this decision by New Hampshire (and other states) need to reconsider the ramifications of it, for if the State declares that gays have an arbitrary right to be married, and they honor the union as such, then there is no telling where they will stop when declaring another arbitrary right for a particular group of people. This is another sad moment for our country, and libertarians who get excited about this need to be ashamed of themselves.

You don't believe in liberty. Not everyone believes in god, and unless you want a backlash you don't want to force your religious views on people. Have you people learned yet? Why do you think the republicans lost so badly this year.

 

[ceakins]

I prefer to live in a free world, too, but I also believe in separation of Church and State. Marriage is a private affair, which has been entrusted to the Church to decide and declare who and who is not to be married. The State is stepping in doing the Church's work of defining and declaring what a married couple should be, and that all under the guise of "civil liberties"!

You know what. The next time the State declares that people have a right to watch television in their homes, and it begins to tax citizens even more for the purchase of TV sets for every American household, I better not hear any of you who support "gay civil liberties" complain in the least bit about that or any other created right by the State.

By the way, you can't have liberty without morality. That's something you should think about.

Only if you believe in your particular flavor of religion or in god at all.

 

[idiom]

I think what Theo means is the Hetero Couples have no right to get married.

 

[invisible]

A lot of people I know would take this as great news. Hopefully they'll legalize polygamy next!

 

[TastyWheat]

I think what Theo means is the Hetero Couples have no right to get married.

Word. If for whatever reason no church will sanction your marriage then you're out of luck. Is the state going to sanction bar mitzvahs and quinceaneras next?

 

[Wineman77]

I prefer to live in a free world, too, but I also believe in separation of Church and State. Marriage is a private affair, which has been entrusted to the Church to decide and declare who and who is not to be married. The State is stepping in doing the Church's work of defining and declaring what a married couple should be, and that all under the guise of "civil liberties"!

Ok, how about churches that will gladly marry gay couples? Do they not have the same rights? Or do only churches you approve of get the exclusive right of marriage?

 

[dannno]

A lot of people I know would take this as great news. Hopefully they'll legalize polygamy next!

Do you think that actions by consenting individuals should carry criminal penalties?

 

[Dr.3D]

A lot of people I know would take this as great news. Hopefully they'll legalize polygamy next!

If they did, would a guy with 5 wives get to claim more deductions on his income taxes than a guy with 4?

 

[ceakins]

If they did, would a guy with 5 wives get to claim more deductions on his income taxes than a guy with 4?

Well you do get more deductions the more kids you have.


I bet octomom with her clown car of a vagina get's a lot of tax breaks.

 

[Romantarchist]

Dan Itse and Carol McGuire (Free State Project member) both voted AGAINST legalizing it! Seriously, what the hell? Freedom fighters my ass!

 

[klamath]

If they did, would a guy with 5 wives get to claim more deductions on his income taxes than a guy with 4?

If you are claiming each wife/or husband or partner as a dependent I believe you would. That could be a good way of getting out of paying any income taxes! It's coming and it is going to get complicated, or force the government out of marriage tax laws and business regulations which will never happen in this climate. Wait until businesses are required to buy health care coverage under the new laws for employees with 6 or 8 spouses and 20 kids. All of these rulings are coming together to massively increase government regulation to take care of all the new socialism and societal norms.
There is absolutely no way gays should get the right to marriage but not polygomists.

 

[Theocrat]

You Can't Have the Fruit Without the Root

Ok, how about churches that will gladly marry gay couples? Do they not have the same rights? Or do only churches you approve of get the exclusive right of marriage?

Churches that allow gay marriages are living in opposition to the word of God, and they need to be corrected. The Bible does not teach nor does it give the Church permission to marry same-sex couples. The right to be a local church body must be grounded by the absolute authority of God's word, or the church body must relinquish itself from being called a church. Period.

 

[klamath]

Dan Itse and Carol McGuire (Free State Project member) both voted AGAINST legalizing it! Seriously, what the hell? Freedom fighters my ass!

Maybe they voted against it because it really wasn't a free marriage act as it denied polygamists the right to marry.

 

[BeFranklin]

Like the hate crimes law?

Theo-

Churches are not required to marry gay people.. it is simply treating them equally under the law.

I want to work to separate church and state on this issue, as you know, however if they are going to marry adam and eve, the state is required to marry adam and steve. It's called equality, and it's better than letting the state discriminate. Churches are not required to marry anybody they don't want to.

You mean like the hate crimes law that will criminalize even speaking against homosexuality if someone else (not you) does something wrong. False accusations and framing people will florish under that.

The homosexual lobby is one of the most corrupt lobbies in America. Seeing some of the people on here support it makes me just want to build bigger walls to keep you out when the time comes. You won't be on the right side when things fall apart.

 

[TonySutton]

The homosexual lobby is one of the most corrupt lobbies in America.

Yeah, almost as bad as some christian groups.

 

[ceakins]

You mean like the hate crimes law that will criminalize even speaking against homosexuality if someone else (not you) does something wrong. False accusations and framing people will florish under that.

The homosexual lobby is one of the most corrupt lobbies in America. Seeing some of the people on here support it makes me just want to build bigger walls to keep you out when the time comes. You won't be on the right side when things fall apart.

And your true anti-liberty colors come out. Why don't you just admit you're a neocon?

 

[Wineman77]

Churches that allow gay marriages are living in opposition to the word of God, and they need to be corrected. The Bible does not teach nor does it give the Church permission to marry same-sex couples. The right to be a local church body must be grounded by the absolute authority of God's word, or the church body must relinquish itself from being called a church. Period.

Churches may be formed around many different belief systems and religions. Christians do not hold a monopoly nor have the authority to dictate what constitutes a church. Even a wiccan church must be given equal standing under the law. Christianity is not the exclusive church of this nation, nor is it the only one with Constitutional protections.

You do not get to decide what a church may believe and teach. Period!

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Churches that allow gay marriages are living in opposition to the word of God, and they need to be corrected. The Bible does not teach nor does it give the Church permission to marry same-sex couples. The right to be a local church body must be grounded by the absolute authority of God's word, or the church body must relinquish itself from being called a church. Period.

It also doesn't teach fascism, but you don't seem to care-as long as your opinion is allowed to trump others you don't agree with. Yeshua would be ashamed of you, indeed.

 

[TheEvilDetector]

Married Gay People is an interesting concept, for example, do you then use the words husband and wife when referring to them
or do you abstain from using those words since they do not seem applicable?

I wonder if gay people will in future use the legislature to redefine the traditional meaning of husband and wife.