Gary Johnson: Trump's a Fascist

[NotAnIllegalImmigrant]

I think he's more of a 'selective' libertarian. He's not a progressive.

Really? He supports quite a few progressive causes:

- Federalizing homosexual marriage
- Federalizing legal abortion (He now says that PP v Casey shouldn't be overruled)
- "It the federal government's job to prevent discrimination in all cases"
- Supports a carbon tax...Sorry, I mean "fee"
- Supports smoking bans in private restaurants
- Supports forcing religious entities to supply birth control against their beliefs

 

[euphemia]

Every time Johnson opens his mouth he says one more thing that is anti-liberty. Some people think he is 90% Libertarian. I think his own words say that he is nothing like a Libertarian.

 

[AuH20]

Really? He supports quite a few progressive causes:

- Federalizing homosexual marriage
- Federalizing legal abortion (He now says that PP v Casey shouldn't be overruled)
- "It the federal government's job to prevent discrimination in all cases"
- Supports a carbon tax...Sorry, I mean "fee"
- Supports smoking bans in private restaurants
- Supports forcing religious entities to supply birth control against their beliefs

All true, but a real progressive would not want to dismantle the government like Johnson. I think Johnson is disappointing, but I'm not sure he can be classified as a progressive.

 

[euphemia]

Johnson does not want to dismantle government . He wants to expand some parts of it, but only the parts he considers legitimate.

 

[undergroundrr]

All true, but a real progressive would not want to dismantle the government like Johnson. I think Johnson is disappointing, but I'm not sure he can be classified as a progressive.

Well put. +rep

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

It should be abundantly clear to all by now that the LP in the Johnson/Weld era has been reduced to being mere attack dogs for Hillary.

 

[undergroundrr]

It should be abundantly clear to all by now that the LP in the Johnson/Weld era has been reduced to being mere attack dogs for Hillary.

If so, apparently not intentionally. They take more votes from Hillary than they do trump.

 

[euphemia]

This is the most disappointing election cycle, ever.

 

[jmdrake]

Actually, if fascism is socialism with a sugar coating of capitalism, then Johnson would be the real fascist.

Ummmm....okay. I've never heard fascism described that way but okay. Fascism is the government violating your property rights for the sake of corporations. Socialism is the government violating your property rights for the sake of the masses. Neither Gary Johnson nor Donald Trump support property rights so neither is really worthy of support of people who are first and foremost pro liberty. And of course Hillary Clinton is just a straight up traitor at this point with her selling U.S. State Department access to the highest bidder even when the bidder is a foreign entity. All three of the top presidential candidates suck this go round. Shame on the Libertarian Party for choosing such a crappy nominee just because he's well known. Shame on the GOP for choosing such a crappy nominee just because he used bombastic anti-immigrant language that he's now backed off from somewhat. And shame on the Democratic Party for choosing such a crappy nominee just because she has a vagina. Darryl Castle FTW! Okay. He's not going to win. Darryl Castle FTP! (For the principles.) Principles matter.

 

[jmdrake]

All true, but a real progressive would not want to dismantle the government like Johnson. I think Johnson is disappointing, but I'm not sure he can be classified as a progressive.

How can someone who wants a carbon tax also want to dismantle the government? Who does Johnson expect will enforce the carbon tax? The U.N.?

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

If so, apparently not intentionally. They take more votes from Hillary than they do trump.

They won't be taking substantial numbers from anyone during the election. Johnson gives the establishment another attack dog to hit Trump on Hillary's behalf from a different angle.

 

[AuH20]

It should be abundantly clear to all by now that the LP in the Johnson/Weld era has been reduced to being mere attack dogs for Hillary.

Possibly. The 'Me Too' stuff is kinda unbecoming for Gary. No libertarian nominee should ever be offering Hillary Clinton political sanctuary on certain issues. Let's forget about Donald Trump for a second.

 

[undergroundrr]

They won't be taking substantial numbers from anyone during the election. Johnson gives the establishment another attack dog to hit Trump on Hillary's behalf from a different angle.

I forget. You still think trump has a chance.

 

[NotAnIllegalImmigrant]

I forget. You still think trump has a chance.

And you probably still think Gary Johnson can crack 1.5%. Equally delusional.

 

[AuH20]

They won't be taking substantial numbers from anyone during the election. Johnson gives the establishment another attack dog to hit Trump on Hillary's behalf from a different angle.

I really wonder if Weld is the reason why Gary is running like he is. Weld is much worse than Gary in my eyes. Now you can make the compelling argument that Weld is a progressive.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

I forget. You still think trump has a chance.

Just explaining the political reality to you so you understand what libertarians have reduced themselves to out of desperation.

I really wonder if Weld is the reason why Gary is running like he is. Weld is much worse Gary in my eyes.

Weld wears the pants in the relationship. Johnson is out of his league, knows it, and relies on Weld for pretty much everything, as far as I can tell.

 

[NotAnIllegalImmigrant]

I really wonder if Weld is the reason why Gary is running like he is. Weld is much worse Gary in my eyes. Now you can make the compelling argument that Weld is a progressive.

They're both social progressives. They both want to impose their socially liberal views through government force. Be it by legalizing the murder of the unborn, mandating states to register and recognize homosexual unions, forcing nuns to pay for birth control, forcing Christian bakers to bake homosexual cakes, or forcing restaurant owners to abide by government mandates regarding tobacco on private property...

 

[undergroundrr]

And you probably still think Gary Johnson can crack 1.5%. Equally delusional.

I actually don't at this point. Bill Kristol has very effectively minimized that possibility.

 

[AuH20]

Weld wears the pants in the relationship. Johnson is out of his league, knows it, and relies on Weld for pretty much everything, as far as I can tell.

Weld appears to be Gary's handler, so I wonder if Weld has exclusive access to crucial financing contacts that we aren't privy to?

Weld has also set the forth the narrative for Gary's campaign and I suspect Weld has ulterior motives. His ridiculous theory about the impending social danger of 'large magazine assisted rifles' really sent my spidey sense into overdrive.

 

[NotAnIllegalImmigrant]

I actually don't at this point. Bill Kristol has very effectively minimized that possibility.

Gary Johnson himself has very effectively minimized the possibility of him getting over 1.5% of the vote.

People thought that Gary would be able to stop Trump or Hillary when he can't even stop his own mouth from making him look foolish...