Gary Johnson rapidly becoming RP's worst opponent for president.

klamath

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Sorry but GJ is an egotistical man that is in it for his own glory. All the talk that he was just going to run to expand the debate and then drop out before the elections and endorse RP is proving to be a real joke.
He saw the base RP built and thinks he can slip in and scoop it up. When magazines like National Review are running big articles they know they are trying to split RP's base and nullify the libertarian republican movement. All the RP supporters had better start paying attention to this sneaky coop of RP's chances and stand up for the man that fought 30 lonely years to build a base. Gary Johnson WILL NOT win the republican nomination but he will destroy any chance RP has. Republicans are not going to nominate a man that is prochoice, pro open borders, a cheater on his wife and a recent MJ user.

When asked if he’s the reincarnation of the crusty libertarian, however, Johnson says he “disavows that.” “We need to expand the base. We can’t be the obstructionist party. Ron Paul got 9 percent of the Republican vote. That just doesn’t fly,” Johnson warns.
 
I've been thinking about this too. I would much rather have Ron Paul run. I hardly know Gary Johnson.
 
They're both good. Ron > Gary, but if you look at the broader picture you should realize that in the last 20 or 30 years we have had many good candidates so if Ron doesn't run and Gary does I wont be completely disappointed.
 
I agree. Quite frankly, the liberty movement needs to triple its efforts under a single candidate in 2012. When there's competition like this, the vote is split and both are marginalized.
 
They're both good. Ron > Gary, but if you look at the broader picture you should realize that in the last 20 or 30 years we have had many good candidates so if Ron doesn't run and Gary does I wont be completely disappointed.
GJ is no RP. He is no longer a 2nd or 3rd choice to me anymore. As a strong supporter of defending Israel with american forces makes his whole idea of getting out of the middle east a joke. We CAN"T get out of the middle east if that is the case. If it is a choice of supporting a war supporting, abortion supporting candidate I have a lot of republicans I can pick from.
 
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there is no way gary johnson is gonna ever swoop me away from Ron Paul 2012. The bottom line is Ron Paul 2012 or the gop is pretty much screwed!! gary might get me as a sympathy vote after i look at 3rd party candidates in a general!! Having been a republican for yrs now what seems like a lifetime:) The gop has pretty much forced me to support Ron Paul 2012 with not much else to choose from within the gop! Is that my fault? I think we all know who is to blame the gop establishment!!! Gary is along way off from having me send him my hard-earned dollar but i can tell you i would find the money to nominate RON PAUL 2012!
 
If he is running purely for his own purposes and totally ignoring our cause, then he is to be treated as a bigger threat because he will steal votes away from RP likely voters. Even if Ron did not run, I would still not vote for GJ. The more I read about him, the more I do not trust.
 
Gary Johnson is great. I really love that there will be two liberty candidates in the debates kicking neocon butt! But I wish Johnson would just wait until 2016. Ron only has this one shot. Gary is still young and him running will just split the liberty vote imo.
This is why I believe he is egotistical. We are already getting GJ people coming on here saying RP doesn't own these forums.
 
Gary Johnson is great. I really love that there will be two liberty candidates in the debates kicking neocon butt! But I wish Johnson would just wait until 2016. Ron only has this one shot. Gary is still young and him running will just split the liberty vote imo.

don't get me wrong i don't hate Gary:) it will be nice to hear him in the debates but Ron Paul is where it is at;)
 
Sorry but GJ is an egotistical man that is in it for his own glory. All the talk that he was just going to run to expand the debate and then drop out before the elections and endorse RP is proving to be a real joke.
He saw the base RP built and thinks he can slip in and scoop it up. When magazines like National Review are running big articles they know they are trying to split RP's base and nullify the libertarian republican movement. All the RP supporters had better start paying attention to this sneaky coop of RP's chances and stand up for the man that fought 30 lonely years to build a base. Gary Johnson WILL NOT win the republican nomination but he will destroy any chance RP has. Republicans are not going to nominate a man that is prochoice, pro open borders, a cheater on his wife and a recent MJ user.

and neocons and social conservatives are always accusing libertarians of trying to destroy the Tea Party movement because they're more worried about the guy who lost all of his property and wealth to the bankers than whether or not gays and pot smokers should be thrown into ovens.
 
I like Gary but he is a terrible debater and will do absolutely awful in Iowa. Is there anybody more different than last election's Iowa winner Mike Huckabee?

Everybody think of Aqua Buddha and take a deep breath. Realistically, we'll be the Kucinich/Gravel of the Republican debates. It'll be fun. Let's not start eating each other alive yet.
 
I like Gary but he is a terrible debater and will do absolutely awful in Iowa. Is there anybody more different than last election's Iowa winner Mike Huckabee?

Everybody think of Aqua Buddha and take a deep breath. Realistically, we'll be the Kucinich/Gravel of the Republican debates. It'll be fun. Let's not start eating each other alive yet.
That is what they called RP in the last election, this election he has a lot more respect.
 
I think that Gary knows his spot in the next primary, I wouldn't worry too much about him trying to tank RP '12. I've met him and I don't think he would thwart Ron.
 
Realistically, we'll be the Kucinich/Gravel of the Republican debates. It'll be fun. Let's not start eating each other alive yet.

No, I do not believe so this time around. RP now has WAY more credibility and name recognition than his last run.
 
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