Gary Johnson rapidly becoming RP's worst opponent for president.

FSP-Rebel said:
I think that Gary knows his spot in the next primary, I wouldn't worry too much about him trying to tank RP '12. I've met him and I don't think he would thwart Ron.
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He's already doing it. "We can’t be the obstructionist party." Looks like that is going to be his theme in running against RP. We can't have doc No.
 
klamath said:
He's already doing it. "We can’t be the obstructionist party." Looks like that is going to be his theme in running against RP. We can't have doc No.
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I see your point but I don't think he has any following outside of the Ron fans. He'd be buried alive if he didn't give Ron his due. If he goes that far then he truly is a schmuck. Things remain to be seen.
 
Look, Gary Johnson is way too inarticulate. It's not gonna work.

Just focus on Ron Paul.
 
klamath said:
Republicans are not going to nominate a man that is prochoice,
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I am not fond of his open borders stance, that's my biggest gripe. Would you say that his abortion stance is your biggest issue with him?

specsaregood said:
You are gonna believe what national review claims he said?
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Never. But a word of advise to Gary would be to not let the media bait you into saying negative things about anyone, and especially not like minded people! If he wants to take a stab at anyone in the GOP, he better start with Lyndsey Graham. And we can provide him a with a longer list if he needs it. ;)
 
Brian4Liberty said:
I am not fond of his open borders stance, that's my biggest gripe. Would you say that his abortion stance is your biggest issue with him?



Never. But a word of advise to Gary would be to not let the media bait you into saying negative things about anyone, and especially not like minded people! If he wants to take a stab at anyone in the GOP, he better start with Lyndsey Graham. And we can provide him a with a longer list if he needs it. ;)
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GJ is going after RP's voters so he has to show them he is better than than RP. "I am not an obstructionist like my opponent, I will get results for you!"
 
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Epic said:
Look, Gary Johnson is way too inarticulate. It's not gonna work.

Just focus on Ron Paul.
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Gary use to be a heavy pot smoker. For many marijuana makes them wittier. It expanded my imagination far beyond what it was (not saying I didn't have a big imagination before that).
 
Gary Johnson will attract the attention (and possibly votes) of people who view Ron Paul as a kook or too old. IMO, it would be a good thing for him to be part of the campaign dialogue. It will lead to more compare/contrast media exposure for Ron Paul. Whether either Gary or Ron can sway enough voters out of their (political party) rusty cages to have a realistic shot of winning is yet to be determined.

Anyone who believes in democracy and the free market of ideas should welcome competition.
 
klamath said:
GJ is going after RP's voters so he has to show them he is better than than RP. "I am not an obstructionist like my opponent, I will get results for you!"
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And do you think that we'll bail for mr. incoherent over the Doc? He's toast and he knows it bro.
 
All I know is that Ron has my vote unless he drops out. If he see's a cart and tells me it's worth pushing at that point I may seriously consider someone else.
 
Don't you all get it. Ron is in for the long haul. Rand in the Senate and all, ya'll are dumb to think that Ron won't take the mantle to make a move. Patriots died back in the old days for the Revolution, Ron is comfortable but has longed to make his foremost mark. Don't you realize his mission? It's time for him to leave his mark like never before and Carol has authorized this for a reason. Game time, keep the powder dry til the general says so. Aka money.
 
FSP-Rebel said:
And do you think that we'll bail for mr. incoherent over the Doc? He's toast and he knows it bro.
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That's the thing that irks me. I'm sure he KNOWS that he can't possibly win, yet he plans on running anyway, and at a time when RP's chances of winning are high. But I'm still skeptical. There could be something going on between him and RP, perhaps a good conspiracy of some sorts where he campaigns seriously then ends up dropping out. I don't know about that though and I'm still waiting for someone to fill us in, but for now, I do not trust GJ.
 
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Wren said:
That's the thing that irks me. I'm sure he KNOWS that he can't possibly win, yet he plans on running anyway, and at a time when RP's chances of winning are high. But I'm still skeptical. There could be something going on between him and RP, perhaps a good conspiracy of some sorts where he campaigns seriously then ends up dropping out. I don't know about that though and I'm still waiting for someone to fill us in, but for now, I do not trust GJ.
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Apparently people close to GJ have said he has intended to run for president for at least the past few years, whether or not Ron runs. But to be honest, I don't think this guy will siphon votes away from Ron at all. He won't win more than 5% in any given state. He is not well-recognized, not as articulate or passionate, and he doesn't have the ability to energize a base like Ron. And it's not like the pro-choice guy is going to get any neo-con votes or anything.
 
it would be much harder for Fox , MSM, to exclude RP from the debates if GJ runs. they can't exclude everyone. let them both run, in IA, the Johnson can withdraw, maybe run as a Paul/Johnson ticket as Reagan did with Swietzer back in 1976. it might force the others to name their running mates.
 
I think it will be good to have them both in the debates, but trouble will start when it comes to the primaries. I don't doubt that Reason/CATO will be backing Gary Johnson.

As far as moneybombs, they need to all be for Ron.
 
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