Gary Johnson plans to run against Rand in 2016

Libertarians aren't liberals when it comes to social issues, they don't believe in state enforced "equality".

Rand isn't libertarian, but he's more libertarian than Gary Johnson.
 
I think even the Libertarian Party members will realize how unproductive it will be to nominate Johnson if Rand is the GOP nominee. I think there's probably enough pragmatic people in the Libertarian Party that they'll nominate Rand for the LP nomination rather than Johnson. I mean, they nominated Bob Barr for crying out loud. Rand is certainly more libertarian than Bob Barr.
 
jllundqu said:
Gary Johnson again? How did he do last cycle? About .5%? Nice
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He got about 1%. That would be enough to cost Rand the election in a close race. Rand's people are going to have to work with the Libertarian Party and convince them to nominate Rand.
 
Traditional Conservative said:
He got about 1%. That would be enough to cost Rand the election in a close race. Rand's people are going to have to work with the Libertarian Party and convince them to nominate Rand.
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Not just "Rand's people." RAND has to announce he's seeking the LP nomination, and show up to get it at their convention in 2016, same goes for fthe CP. No party nomination, major or minor, is phoned in to anybody, especially if they're not even running on that party's platform.
 
Peace&Freedom said:
Not just "Rand's people." RAND has to announce he's seeking the LP nomination, and show up to get it at their convention in 2016, same goes for fthe CP. No party nomination, major or minor, is phoned in to anybody, especially if they're not even running on that party's platform.
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I don't know about that when Rand would still be actively seeking the Republican nomination at that time. I'm not sure if all of the primaries would even be over. But I just don't really think that Libertarian Party members would want to sabotage Rand's Presidential run by nominating Gary Johnson. I refuse to believe that they're that stupid.
 
If Rand Paul gets the GOP's nomination, the Libertarian Party should either nominate Rand Paul as well or just not field a candidate in 2016. Running someone that would take a percentage or so away from Rand would be perhaps the most shortsighted thing they could possibly do since Rand Paul will be the closest a "Libertarian" will ever come to the winning the White House.
 
Big difference between Gary Johnson saying he will run and getting the Libertarian nomination.
 
robertwerden said:
Big difference between Gary Johnson saying he will run and getting the Libertarian nomination.
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If recent history is any indication, they'll nominate the person with the largest name recognition amongst their pool of candidates. I can't see a bigger name than Gary Johnson seeking the nomination unless Rand Paul is revealed to be the antichrist and Ron Paul decides to pick up the lightsaber one more time to fight his son for the fate of the Republic.

I mean, who else would they nominate? The guy here who said he was finished with Rand Paul because Rand didn't outright call for the legalization of marijuana at an Evangelical conference (or w/e it was)?
 
Traditional Conservative said:
I don't know about that when Rand would still be actively seeking the Republican nomination at that time. I'm not sure if all of the primaries would even be over. But I just don't really think that Libertarian Party members would want to sabotage Rand's Presidential run by nominating Gary Johnson. I refuse to believe that they're that stupid.
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It's not stupidity, it's being non-beholden to a personality. The LP/CP does not exist for Rand, or to have its process held in suspended animation pending the outcome of the other party's nomination season. It's not clear they will re-nominate Johnson either (Harry Browne's back to back nominations were a kind of exceptional situation, it's usually 'one and done' in the LP).
 
Brian4Liberty said:
Don't know that all libertarians would agree with Johnson on all of these positions...



...Johnson said:

"... Look, libertarians are flaming liberals when it comes to social issues, when it comes to civil liberties. A woman's right to choose, drug reform, immigration, marriage equality."



http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Gary-Johnson-libertarian-president-change/2014/11/03/id/604938/
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Yeah, but he managed to find people to support him last time. Lots of liberty people don't like Johnson, but I have not heard of any of his supporters from last time jumping ship. I did not vote for him.
 
NOVALibertarian said:
If recent history is any indication, they'll nominate the person with the largest name recognition amongst their pool of candidates. I can't see a bigger name than Gary Johnson seeking the nomination unless Rand Paul is revealed to be the antichrist and Ron Paul decides to pick up the lightsaber one more time to fight his son for the fate of the Republic.

I mean, who else would they nominate? The guy here who said he was finished with Rand Paul because Rand didn't outright call for the legalization of marijuana at an Evangelical conference (or w/e it was)?
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If Ron Paul decides to run against Rand I would vote for Ron. That would tell me Ron knows something that I don't. I trust Ron more than I trust Rand.

Barring that, though, Rand is way more libertarian than GJ is. I see no reason Johnson should get involved if Rand is the GOP nominee.

jllundqu said:
One word. Virginia. Just look what the LP did in Virginia Governor's race. Hell the democratic party bigwigs heavily funded the LP candidate to split the conservative vote, which worked like a charm. LP got about 10% if I recall and ensured a Demoncratic win.... Nice

http://communities.washingtontimes....hard-truth/2013/nov/6/miracle-ken-cuccinelli/
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Yeah, that was kind of a shame. Cuccinelli was better than most.
 
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