Gary Johnson Gary Johnson; Libertarian failure.
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eleganz
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I don't like how the GJ crew are shoving him down our throats...if they want us to get along with him, LEAD BY EXAMPLE. Plan events and invite us because most of us aren't going to be coordinating for him, at least not right off the bat...
We are the low hanging fruit and they are not PICKING us properly.
We are the low hanging fruit and they are not PICKING us properly.
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Well he never did get elected governor of Arizona however he did get elected as governor of New Mexico.
Well he never did get elected governor of Arizona however he did get elected as governor of New Mexico.
Oh, so that explains it then I suppose. New Mexico must take whoever they can get.
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Yeah sure sounds that way. Nothing against Johnson but I am not a supporter. If he had a legit shot of winning I would be pushing hard but I just don't see it. After this season of politics I can't restart with someone else.
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What do you mean? Is the GJ crew expecting supports to do staffing leg work like coordinating events?
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He was terrible in the debates, repeated the same lines mostly. He doesn't roll off as nearly competent enough to be president. My problem with that is it's really easy to manipulate an uneducated person. If this guy became president he would only be slightly better than the other two candidates because he would be 'cabineted' into doing the stupid crap they want.
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libertarian macho flash by the host,
the question isnt whether gj is more ideologically pure thanthe host or ron paul, but whethr he isbetter than romney, since the host an ron are not running
the question isnt whether gj is more ideologically pure thanthe host or ron paul, but whethr he isbetter than romney, since the host an ron are not running
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This is what's pissed a lot of people off about it. It's not just about getting people to vote for GJ - they want people to donate and go campaign for him. And they come in and say, "Hey YOU need to go do this/that, we'll just sit here and keep making new threads on the RP sites"
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6:30 in, I can't listen to anymore.
Maybe we should keep Johnson out of the debates...
Maybe we should keep Johnson out of the debates...
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Although I agree the host could have presented himself as less of a jerk or an example of "gotcha" journalism, the topics however are generally being discussed at a very high level and in some cases introductory for a presidential candidate that is presenting himself as an alternative and suggesting Ron Paul supporters vote for him. Many Ron Paul supporters have economics as a central issue and have much interest in looking for someone that is well versed in economics, and not someone that is just getting started on those topics. It has nothing to do with purity or being better than the host or Ron Paul it has everything to do with knowing at least the basics of economics, the business cycle and the federal reserve.
This is the equivalent of Ron Paul having created a reading list to Rudy back in '07 on foreign policy to help him better understand the concept of blowback, except in this case it's economics, and as Ron Paul has pointed out a number of times if you don't understand the business cycle then you are not going to understand how to address all the issues that stem from it.
I'll be the first to admit winning over Ron Paul supporters is probably going to be the hardest type of voters to get, mainly because a candidate will have to do their homework and not just show up and try to shmooze their way through interviews. Educated voters will see right through that, I'd think many of us over the years have gotten pretty good at reading between the lines and seeing through the bullshit. You have to come with your A-Game, and coming up after Ron Paul is a tough act to follow cause the man literally is a super nerd lol (and I say that with affection and good old humor), but yea the man reads a LOT! He doesn't do ironman competitions or climb mount everest instead he's home reading every economic or related book for the past 30 years and then talking about and debating the topics with economists and politicians.
I feel genuinely sorry for anyone that tries to pass themselves off as the next Ron Paul cause it's going to be a challenge, but to be honest someone doesn't really have to, but they do have to do some homework and have their ducks in a row. The topics and thought leaders or subject matter experts or just base of knowledge that were being asked of Gary wasn't unreasonable questions, Gary just was not prepared at all for those questions because he does not study those topics in great depth, plain and simple. And the question then is, is a man that is not very focused on topics of economics when it relates to views of the individuals he's representing okay? This is a similar question that could have been posed to Sarah Palin. Gary Johnson didn't do himself any favors by not preparing for that interview, on a show that is titled "economic policy journal" or lack of preparation and study in general it seems prior to this election cycle. If he's thinking of courting certain segments of Ron Paul supporters, he's going to have to do a much better job.
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Might not be a bad idea.
I don't see how he would get in the debates unless he was Ron Paul's VP candidate.
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I am not voting for Johnson, because I do not agree with him on some key things, but I guess I don't understand why all the attacks on him because he isn't a pure enough libertarian. At least he's trying to learn more about it, as compared to Romney, or Obama.
It comes off as very snobbish and cult-like, almost.
It comes off as very snobbish and cult-like, almost.
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