Gangster Rap Video on RonPaul2008.com TOTALLY Inappropriate for Presidential Campaign

[Wayne Hammond]

This comming from the same guy who belittles any newcomer on the forum if he disgrees with him.
Your post was racist. You assume that it is "gangster rap" which it isnt and proves that your postition is based on sterotype.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a racist. Geesh. There you go again.

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[CrazyRonPaulSupporter]

I'm racist,
I'm a hater,
I think all music is from the devil,
I'm stereotyping people,
I'm nitpicking,
I'm whining,
that I'm opposed to freedom, individual rights, & peace,
I'm an *ss,
I'm wildly uneducated,
I'm censoring people,
I can't handle freedom,
and that I don't care about black people.

Well, that's what you get from trolling these forums! And that was the reactions you wanted, so your doing a great job.......Troll 101...

 

[Seanmc30]

I am somewhat upset that the official campaign has chosen to spotlight the "gangster rap" music video "Rise, Consise, Krookid -Ron Paul 2008 - Original music vid" in their "Daily Updates" section of the www.RonPaul2008.com website.

First of all, in the minds of many Americans, this kind of rap music is associated with vulgar potty-mouth violent young street thugs who treat women like property, and refer to them as "hoes" and "b*tches". While that type of language is not in this particular video, that is the image that comes to the minds of many people when they watch this type of trash music.

Second, I am offended that in this video, it refers to servicemen & women as "little soldiers". For anyone in the military, the term "little soldier" is very derogatory and demeaning. The term itself suggests that a "little soldier" is like a child in their understanding of issues - and only pawns who do whatever their "masters" tell them. It is the equivalent of patting a soldier on the head and saying, "you poor little child - you really don't know what's going on". If you were to call a U.S. serviceman a "little soldier" to his face, he would likely punch your lights out.

Athough this video may be used to reach a certain element within the younger crowd and perhaps can be used by the grassroots, it should not be promoted by the official campaign. If we are trying to reach the conservative Republican base, this video will lose us more votes than most realize.

If you believe as I do, please go to the link below and contact the Official Campaign to let your opinions be known on this.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/form

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Rap music appeals to a large demographic. The song was not offensive.

 

[hard@work]

Wayne,


I understand what you are saying. However, this is not "gangster rap". That connection between rap music or hip hop is negative and simply untrue. What you are really saying is that we should ask for this video to be removed because you yourself and / or others will not understand culturally what the music is about. With the enemy coordinating attacks based on racist statements made by an employee of Ron Paul years ago I couldn't support their decision to put a hip hop video on the front page more. In fact, if they remove it I will be upset personally.


Just my two cents.


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[Original_Intent]

Please read my two points in the original post. THAT'S what's wrong with this video.

Younger people just don't realize how offensive this type of music is to middle-aged or older Americans for the most part.

And then there's the slam against U.S. soldiers. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

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I am glad we have someone in charge of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable. I was getting a little worried that this campaign was lacking in that department. Thanks for stepping forward.

I agree with the sentiment, but guess I just don't have the self-esteem to start labeling things as unacceptable.

 

[mtmedlin]

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a racist. Geesh. There you go again.

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Nope Wayne, not everyone, but I do live by the simple rule. If someone stereotypes on a forum and it appears racist, and then several others agree, it seems a fair assumption. For your sake, I will assume that you are not a racist but just amazingly careless with your words.



ps. I love how open minded you prove yourself to be with each and every post. I especially like how you refer to us as ignorant. You open mindedness is impressive.

 

[Gorgy]

This thread proves what most of us already know: people love to fight among themselves so much that they'll invent things to fight about. Good job threadstarter, you really did a good job stirring up controversy and unhappiness by posting a thread on this site where none of us can do anything even if we want to, when you simply could have emailed the campaign with your thoughts. Again, good job...don't forget to donate the $100 you probably reserved for the Huckster.

 

[DirtMcGirt]

this should be on the you tube section of site

 

[Wayne Hammond]

Rap music appeals to a large demographic.

I know it does. And that is what truly saddens me and many older Americans. It is a sad commentary on the preferences of the younger generation.

Maybe I'm just too old for all this politics stuff. Who knows. I'll be out of this world in a few years, long before you all see the final effects of all this stuff. If I had any sense, I'd just shut up and let it all hit the fan.

I was just expressing my opinion as a conservative, older American. Guess that's too much for many here to handle.

I'm done replying in this thread, so it's all yours.

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[michaelwise]

Can we get HQ to take a look at this most excellent campaign song? How can they not consider putting this up front, it is the best period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIAqcNB3hCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIAqcNB3hCI

 

[coffeewithchess]

I saw it on the front page and thought the same thing, "What in the world are they doing? Can't the campaign put up an endorsement video from Barry Goldwater Jr. again or even Chuck Baldwin..." I guess this is a good sign that there is at least some form of life working on the campaign site though...lol, they just seem to get on everybody's nerves no matter what they do.

 

[constituent]

i don't understand how rap music can be offense just b/c it's rap music. that's insane, seriously.

 

[DrRich]

they already have young peoples vote.

go get OLDER peoples votes! (aint gonna do that with a rap song)

 

[markderidder]

I agree... it looks stupid.

-Mark

 

[constituent]

Wayne,


<snip>What you are really saying is that we should ask for this video to be removed because you yourself and / or others will not understand culturally what the music is about. With the enemy coordinating attacks based on racist statements made by an employee of Ron Paul years ago I couldn't support their decision to put a hip hop video on the front page more. In fact, if they remove it I will be upset personally.


Just my two cents.


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QFT

 

[constituent]

they already have young peoples vote.

go get OLDER peoples votes! (aint gonna do that with a rap song)

are you referring to the same old people that we're all supposed to get off of the
internet and reach out to... since they're not on the internet or whatever???

so is a rap video on the website going to matter all that much to these... ummm... older people....


jeez, demon collectivism muddles it all.

 

[Melissa]

are you referring to the same old people that we're all supposed to get off of the
internet and reach out to... since they're not on the internet or whatever???

so is a rap video on the website going to matter all that much to these... ummm... older people....


jeez, demon collectivism muddles it all.

+1

 

[jd603]

It's a good rap, but you're right, it is risky! heheh

I am somewhat upset that the official campaign has chosen to spotlight the "gangster rap" music video "Rise, Consise, Krookid -Ron Paul 2008 - Original music vid" in their "Daily Updates" section of the www.RonPaul2008.com website.

First of all, in the minds of many Americans, this kind of rap music is associated with vulgar potty-mouth violent young street thugs who treat women like property, and refer to them as "hoes" and "b*tches". While that type of language is not in this particular video, that is the image that comes to the minds of many people when they watch this type of trash music.

Second, I am offended that in this video, it refers to servicemen & women as "little soldiers". For anyone in the military, the term "little soldier" is very derogatory and demeaning. The term itself suggests that a "little soldier" is like a child in their understanding of issues - and only pawns who do whatever their "masters" tell them. It is the equivalent of patting a soldier on the head and saying, "you poor little child - you really don't know what's going on". If you were to call a U.S. serviceman a "little soldier" to his face, he would likely punch your lights out.

Athough this video may be used to reach a certain element within the younger crowd and perhaps can be used by the grassroots, it should not be promoted by the official campaign. If we are trying to reach the conservative Republican base, this video will lose us more votes than most realize.

If you believe as I do, please go to the link below and contact the Official Campaign to let your opinions be known on this.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/form

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[PimpBlimp]

I have to agree. We already have the young peoples votes. This is only going to hurt getting the older conservative right vote. So stupid

 

[AlexMerced]

I know a lot of people that registered to vote today cause of this, a lot people feel the candidates don't represent them, and this and the Muhammad Ali Speech did it for them.