Gangster Rap Video on RonPaul2008.com TOTALLY Inappropriate for Presidential Campaign

[Melissa]

and if we are going to bitch over music then I say no country hate that stuff -so only classical rock it is hehe

 

[Johncjackson]

There are a lot of things about Ron Paul's actual positions that turn a lot of people off. If people can get through that and still support him, then I don't see how something this insignificant would matter.

My own thought is a large % of people who would actually get offended by this are opposed to freedom, individual rights, peace, anyway. Why would they support anyway?

I wouldnt label anyone who dislikes this as "racist". However, I think really thats the small sliver of supporters that might really care enough to NOT support RP because of something like this. People who aren't real supporters anyway. And make up such a small % of potential voters.

 

[elpete]

That isn't gangster rap.

 

[Wayne Hammond]

Am 57 years old and think the video and lyrics are clever and very well done - love the way the vid has been put together. Despite rap not being my usual choice, this vid I like and I can see nothing wrong with it's being included on the campaign site. In fact, the campaign's recognition of the quality of this vid is another demonstration of how different this campaign is from all the others: it's (dare I say this?) progressive!

If "progressive" campaigning includes an obvious SLAM against those U.S. Service Personnel serving our country, then I want no part of it. U.S. soldiers are not the enemy to this campaign... we generally have great support within the military - so demeaning them like this is not acceptable.

I wrote the official campaign and let them know that if they continue to promote that video, I will no longer send money to HQ - and all my money will be spent on grassroots efforts.

AND I AM DEAD SERIOUS.

As a conservative, older American, this issue has made my blood boil like no other thus far in the campaign.

I'm not railing against you younger people, You are certainly welcome to your opinion, and I think you should promote this video in younger circles where it may actually do some good...

I'm just trying to get you to understand, that regardless of what you think about the appropriateness of this video, many older, conservatives will be EXTREMELY angry about it and may stop supporting the campaign because of it.

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[DealzOnWheelz]

To the thread starter


[Edited h@w]


RON PAUL WOULD NOT ACCEPT YOUR REASONING

Remember he is fighting for our FREEDOMN OF SPEECH and the rest of the damn constitution

But to say that is Gangsta Rap you are wildly uneducated about hip hop
if you'd like to hear gangsta rap to put it into perspective go on you tube and search for

NWA Fuck tha police

thats GANGSTA

Have you ever heard of Talib Kweli Thats not Gangsta
Mos Def
Pharoh Monch

RAP does not = GANGSTA

if thats the case then all Rock bands are
DEVIL WORSHIPPERS


What you are trying to do is CENSOR!!!!!

SO GO VOTE FOR THE GHOUL OR HITLERY


GOOD WE DON'T NEED YOU TO SEND THEM YOUR MONEY DONATE TO THE HITLERCOPTER

 

[coastie]

Yeah, way to win the military vote... tell them they are stupid. THAT is EXACTLY why this mention of "little soldiers" is so offensive to military people.

Unbelievable that you can't see that.

Also unbelievable is that some are calling ME racist, simply because I think rap music is offensive.

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Hmmm....I showed the video to my dad, and while not an all out racist per say, he usually cringes when he hears rap - and he thought it was pretty good.

And BTW, he's a 30 year Air Force vet and served in Vietnam and the first Gulf War. I'm in the military as well and was not offended, neither were the several other military people I've shown the video to.

Methinks you'd not care if that song was talking about tight jeans and women who use chewing tobacco.....

I for one, LOVE rap music. I grew up on it. Whether it be "gangsta" or whatever, I dont care. Its just as much a form of entertainment than anything else is. I'm from the mindest of, if it offends you - THEN DONT F*CKING LISTEN TO IT. You trying to be the moral police here is kind of ironic you being a RP supporter and all.

 

[brumans]

Wow.. if I were Wayne Hammond I would probably be crying in a corner right now.

 

[philipsantamaria]

I'm just trying to get you to understand, that regardless of what you think about the appropriateness of this video, many older, conservatives (just 1- Wayne Hammond) will be EXTREMELY angry about it and may stop supporting the campaign because of it.

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hm

 

[Melissa]

If "progressive" campaigning includes an obvious SLAM against those U.S. Service Personnel serving our country, then I want no part of it. U.S. soldiers are not the enemy to this campaign... we generally have great support within the military - so demeaning them like this is not acceptable.

I wrote the official campaign and let them know that if they continue to promote that video, I will no longer send money to HQ - and all my money will be spent on grassroots efforts.

AND I AM DEAD SERIOUS.

As a conservative, older American, this issue has made my blood boil like no other thus far in the campaign.

I'm not railing against you younger people, You are certainly welcome to your opinion, and I think you should promote this video in younger circles where it may actually do some good...

I'm just trying to get you to understand, that regardless of what you think about the appropriateness of this video, many older, conservatives will be EXTREMELY angry about it and may stop supporting the campaign because of it.

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well i say then we dont need your support my goodness chill is there not anything else you can be worried about go hold a sign go help the soup kitchen but if this really bothers you that much I dont think you really understand the freedom message,. My goodness I still can be shocked about what some will bitch about in here when we have bigger issues.

 

[rachmiel]

The video was decent and I enjoyed it. The lyrics seemed tasteful. But the best way to avoid a controversy would be for RP2008 to make a section for creative works and include a bunch of music videos and movies produced by fans, upon review of course. That way they would never appear to be focusing or endorsing one particular video, in case some found it offensive.

 

[jonhowe]

And rock and roll is associated with drug use and sex!
We need to stop ALL music from being used in ANY Ron Paul video!

MUSIC IS THE DEVIL!



Jesus people, what year is this? If you don't like the content, fine, but lets not stereotype. I mean, god forbid if there were non-whites in that video, right?

 

[evadmurd]

I hate rap music, but have to say i thought this was a pretty well done vid. If they keep it up, though, we will hear about it in the MSM. It'll give them another straw issue to blow out of proportion. They'll use it against us, I'm sorry to say.

 

[AdoubleR]

To the thread starter


Your an A$$

RON PAUL WOULD NOT ACCEPT YOUR REASONING

Remember he is fighting for our FREEDOMN OF SPEECH and the rest of the damn constitution

But to say that is Gangsta Rap you are wildly uneducated about hip hop
if you'd like to hear gangsta rap to put it into perspective go on you tube and search for

NWA Fuck tha police

thats GANGSTA

Have you ever heard of Talib Kweli Thats not Gangsta
Mos Def
Pharoh Monch

RAP does not = GANGSTA

if thats the case then all Rock bands are
DEVIL WORSHIPPERS


What you are trying to do is CENSOR!!!!!

SO GO VOTE FOR THE GHOUL OR HITLERY

I agree with your quote minus the dollar signs... No name calling necessary... Mr. Hammond has every right to be upset based on his limited knowledge on rap music... lets just educate him in the nicest way possible... Mr. Hammond, please check the last post I put in this thread...

 

[Kingfisher]

I watched a few seconds of the video after the rap (music?) started. I then shut it off. Some people just dont like rap!

 

[Wayne Hammond]

What you are trying to do is CENSOR!!!!!

SO GO VOTE FOR THE GHOUL OR HITLERY

GOOD WE DON'T NEED YOU TO SEND THEM YOUR MONEY DONATE TO THE HITLERCOPTER

God I hate it when people claim you're censoring them, simply because you disagree with them. That is just stupidity. Learn what censorship really is.

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[hambone1982]

If "progressive" campaigning includes an obvious SLAM against those U.S. Service Personnel serving our country, then I want no part of it. U.S. soldiers are not the enemy to this campaign... we generally have great support within the military - so demeaning them like this is not acceptable.

I wrote the official campaign and let them know that if they continue to promote that video, I will no longer send money to HQ - and all my money will be spent on grassroots efforts.

AND I AM DEAD SERIOUS.

As a conservative, older American, this issue has made my blood boil like no other thus far in the campaign.

I'm not railing against you younger people, You are certainly welcome to your opinion, and I think you should promote this video in younger circles where it may actually do some good...

I'm just trying to get you to understand, that regardless of what you think about the appropriateness of this video, many older, conservatives will be EXTREMELY angry about it and may stop supporting the campaign because of it.

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First, stop hiding behind the troops - Stop using them to further your argument. This video is not offensive to me as a recent veteran, so I don't see how it bothers you so much.

Are you really going to stop supporting Dr. Paul's campaign over a music video? Really?

 

[CrazyRonPaulSupporter]

It's threads like these that shows some people just can't handle freedom......

The fact that they put it up there must mean that Ron Paul knows about it. This man knows that freedom comes in all forms and shapes. He is probably dancing to it right now....

And just calling that video gangster rap to flame this forum is sooooooooo lame. Ok, lets say it turns of 2 people, but turn on +1000! I rather have those +1000 joining our revolution ready to spread the good doctors message than 2 people that can't even accept a harmless music video!

 

[jonhowe]

The word "little" was put before soldier to keep his flow. It's music, jeeze.

 

[Wayne Hammond]

Are you really going to stop supporting Dr. Paul's campaign over a music video? Really?

Grow up and quit trying to put things in my mouth. I said that if this video remains on the HQ site, I will no longer send money to the official campaign - I will instead send money to grassroots efforts.

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[rachmiel]

It's threads like these that shows some people just can't handle freedom......

The fact that they put it up there must mean that Ron Paul knows about it. This man knows that freedom comes in all forms and shapes. He is probably dancing to it right now....

And just calling that video gangster rap to flame this forum is sooooooooo lame. Ok, lets say it turns of 2 people, but turn on +1000! I rather have those +1000 joining our revolution ready to spread the good doctors message than 2 people that can't even accept a harmless music video!

Exactly.