GA - Four confirmed dead in school shooting

[Anti Federalist]

Oh yeah, this is meant to be an election year issue. Poor guy... First his son goes nuts and murders people and while he's dealing with that, HE becomes the focus of the State's lawfare.

Oh no doubt, this will be big news all fall long.

The shooting of an ex president and the shooting and killing of his supporters, meh, not so much.

 

[CaptUSA]

Oh no doubt, this will be big news all fall long.

The shooting of an ex president and the shooting and killing of his supporters, meh, not so much.

You know, the best thing Trump can probably do in the debate is to say, "As a victim of a mass shooting myself, I hold the perpetrators responsible - not the weapon he used and certainly not his family!"

They'll drop the storyline immediately.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not fully confirmed but it's looking like he was a trans faggg

https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1831900930222256203

 

[acptulsa]

 

[jmdrake]

Not fully confirmed but it's looking like he was a trans faggg

https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1831900930222256203

Yeah....let's talk about all of our pet social issues. Everything except what really matters which is how to prevent these tragedies. Colin Noir has a good handle on that. They want gun confiscation when the real answer is good guys with guns in schools.



Nobody is talking about this, but school resource officers stopped the shooter before he could kill more than 4 people.



Not all schools can afford resource officers. That's why Tennessee initially passed a teacher's carry bill specifically for districts that couldn't afford it. The one passed this year extends to all schools. But both bills require the local sherriff, principal and school board to sign off and getting all of them to agree has in the past proven to be difficult.

 

[PAF]

So I would trust an individual millionaire / billionaire to save a town with his own money than I would some government "official" to do it with someone else's money.

I don't trust either one. I don't discriminate based on color, unless it's green and doesn't belong to me.

I"m confused. Why in the hell would you not trust someone to use his own money as he sees fit? That seems very anti libertarian to me.

This would make a great thread.


What do the words don't trust have anything to do with with being libertarian or anti-libertarian?


Bill Gates, Miriam Adelson, Tom Steyer, George Soros, Peter Thiel... Donald Trump who has donated to many democrats including Hillary Clinton, Charlie Rangel, Kamala Harris TWICE, etc.......

and now ELON MUSK who has enough F&CK YOU MONEY that he doesn't have a thing to worry about, yet is being heralded as the next beloved billionaire involved with TrumpPolitics.


So I ask, what does don't trust have anything to do with being libertarian or anti-libertarian? I'm confused.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Yeah....let's talk about all of our pet social issues. Everything except what really matters which is how to prevent these tragedies. Colin Noir has a good handle on that. They want gun confiscation when the real answer is good guys with guns in schools.



Nobody is talking about this, but school resource officers stopped the shooter before he could kill more than 4 people.



Not all schools can afford resource officers. That's why Tennessee initially passed a teacher's carry bill specifically for districts that couldn't afford it. The one passed this year extends to all schools. But both bills require the local sherriff, principal and school board to sign off and getting all of them to agree has in the past proven to be difficult.

Everything except what really matters which is how to prevent these tragedies. Colin Noir has a good handle on that

The only thing Liberals want to do is to make America become like Europe and change its laws on the second amendment.


I haven't seen a single democrat ever trying to go after mental health issues.


Maybe both parties should tackle the mental health crisis instated of trying to get rid of second amendment or to change constitution.

 

[PAF]

Maybe both parties should tackle the mental health crisis instated of trying to get rid of second amendment or to change constitution.

Maybe both parties should get out of the mental health crisis instead of being directly involved in it. Hasn't government already done enough?

 

[jmdrake]

This would make a great thread.


What do the words don't trust have anything to do with with being libertarian or anti-libertarian?


Bill Gates, Miriam Adelson, Tom Steyer, George Soros, Peter Thiel... Donald Trump who has donated to many democrats including Hillary Clinton, Charlie Rangel, Kamala Harris TWICE, etc.......

and now ELON MUSK who has enough F&CK YOU MONEY that he doesn't have a thing to worry about, yet is being heralded as the next beloved billionaire involved with TrumpPolitics.


So I ask, what does don't trust have anything to do with being libertarian or anti-libertarian? I'm confused.

It's Elon Musk's money to do with it as he sees fit. The only problem that I have is to the extent that he got it from goverment "billionaire welfare" like EV subsidies. I feel a little less bothered about SpaceX because the gubmint was going to pay someone to launch it's sattlelites and his company so far is doing it cheaper and better than NASA and Boeing. And I don't give a rats ass who donates what to who. People have a right to do that. Seriously you're confusing.

But initiially I wasn't even talking about billionaire Elon Musk. I was talking about a millionaire who put his own money where his mouth is and got good results. Do you have anything to say about that positive or negative?

 

[jmdrake]

The only thing Liberals want to do is to make America become like Europe and change its laws on the second amendment.


I haven't seen a single democrat ever trying to go after mental health issues.


Maybe both parties should tackle the mental health crisis instated of trying to get rid of second amendment or to change constitution.

Meh. Democrats will counter that Republicans don't want to spend the money to fully fund government mental health and......they're right.

Besides, there have always been crazy people willing to kill someone for no particular reason going back to Cain killing Able (or caveman Og killing caveman Zog). What mades the difference when the actual shooting occurs is if there is someone on site who can actually respond to the threat.

 

[PAF]

It's Elon Musk's money to do with it as he sees fit. The only problem that I have is to the extent that he got it from goverment "billionaire welfare" like EV subsidies. I feel a little less bothered about SpaceX because the gubmint was going to pay someone to launch it's sattlelites and his company so far is doing it cheaper and better than NASA and Boeing. And I don't give a rats ass who donates what to who. People have a right to do that. Seriously you're confusing.

But initiially I wasn't even talking about billionaire Elon Musk. I was talking about a millionaire who put his own money where his mouth is and got good results. Do you have anything to say about that positive or negative?

Positive: Voluntarism.

Negative: Philanthropy with strings attached which leads to favors, power and corruption.

 

[jmdrake]

Positive: Voluntarism.

Negative: Philanthropy with strings attached which leads to favors, power and corruption.

Okay. The strings attached in this case is for the teachers to get the bonuses their students needed to show improvement and for the students to get college scholarships they had to actually a) graduate and b) apply for college. There may have been some other "strings" like don't get arrested and maintain a certain GPA. There doesn't seem to be any strings to the free childcare he gave away. So......what's the corruption you're concerned about?

 

[PAF]

Okay. The strings attached in this case is for the teachers to get the bonuses their students needed to show improvement and for the students to get college scholarships they had to actually a) graduate and b) apply for college. There may have been some other "strings" like don't get arrested and maintain a certain GPA. There doesn't seem to be any strings to the free childcare he gave away. So......what's the corruption you're concerned about?

Reliance.

 

[jmdrake]

Reliance.

Those that finish high school, go on to college, avoid getting a criminal record etc are set on a path of self reliance. Sorry but your argument makes absolutely no sense. It sounds like you don't ever want anyone to help anybody. That's not libertarian. I don't know what you call it but it's not libertarion or agorist or whatever. The people in Tangelo Park Florida were reliant on the welfare state and many were headed to prison. That's been turned around for a lot of people. There is no negative here.

 

[PAF]

Those that finish high school, go on to college, avoid getting a criminal record etc are set on a path of self reliance. Sorry but your argument makes absolutely no sense. It sounds like you don't ever want anyone to help anybody. That's not libertarian. I don't know what you call it but it's not libertarion or agorist or whatever. The people in Tangelo Park Florida were reliant on the welfare state and many were headed to prison. That's been turned around for a lot of people. There is no negative here.

I can't solve the world's problems, nor can anybody. I simply responded to your question:

"There doesn't seem to be any strings to the free childcare he gave away. So......what's the corruption you're concerned about?"

When philanthropists do such things, people always grow reliant, and from there leads to conditions and eventual corruption. It's built in.

Me as an individual can help one in need, and I have, but unlike philanthropists I know when to completely back off. The philanthropist who gives stuff for free as a matter of routine typically perpetuates the problem of reliance, and potential strings attached, more than it "helps".

Take from it what you will ;-)

 

[jmdrake]

I can't solve the world's problems, nor can anybody. I simply responded to your question:

"There doesn't seem to be any strings to the free childcare he gave away. So......what's the corruption you're concerned about?"

When philanthropists do such things, people always grow reliant, and from there leads to conditions and eventual corruption. It's built in.

Me as an individual can help one in need, and I have, but unlike philanthropists I know when to completely back off. The philanthropist who gives stuff for free as a matter of routine typically perpetuates the problem of reliance, and potential strings attached, more than it "helps".

Take from it what you will ;-)

Except you're 100% ignoring the fact that the people being helped were already reliant on welfare and then they and their children are reaching a point where they aren't reliant on anybody. Everyone gets help from somebody at somepoint. The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" nonsense is just that, nonsense. How many lives have you changed with your "help?" How many people graduated high school who wouldn't have without your "help?" Yeah you may have given a homeless person a sandwich. Good for you! But I'm not impressed.

 

[PAF]

Except you're 100% ignoring the fact that the people being helped were already reliant on welfare and then they and their children are reaching a point where they aren't reliant on anybody. Everyone gets help from somebody at somepoint. The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" nonsense is just that, nonsense. How many lives have you changed with your "help?" How many people graduated high school who wouldn't have without your "help?" Yeah you may have given a homeless person a sandwich. Good for you! But I'm not impressed.

LOL check your PM ;-)

 

[Valli6]

I think the FBI knows how to pick 'em

Here’s how I envision the 2023 FBI-ordered interview with the kid and his family:

Investigator: Good morning Gray family. We’re here today to interview you for the position of school shooter, er, I mean ask you about threatening posts the FBI attributes to you on a Discord messaging platform - although the phone number linked to that account is associated with some other person in a different city. I guess we won’t interview that person or explain why we chose to come to you about it instead.

Stupid Kid: Uh-Uh! No way! It wasn’t me! Somebody hacked my discord account and after that, I quit Discord!

Interviewer: Oh okay. I just wouldn’t want you to shoot up a school… shoot up a school… Shoot up a school! "I gotta take you at your word and I hope you’re being honest with me.” [ https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation...shooting-suspect-arrested-on-multiple-charges ] Just remember not to shoot up a school… shoot up a school. SHOOT UP A SCHOOL! Have a great day! Don’t shoot up a school… SHOOT UP A SCHOOL!

Stupid Kid’s Parents: Gurble, gobble, gloop…

Stupid Kid’s Brain: Wow! The idea of shooting up a school sure gets you a lot of attention! My life sucks so bad and nobody helps me - it can’t get any worse! Maybe I should think more about this shooting-up-a-school thing! People will find out who I am! I’ll be like some bad boy, folk hero and garner some respect! Yeah, shooting up a school, huh? That has some potential….


[Why so much off-topic posting in this thread? ]

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Meh. Democrats will counter that Republicans don't want to spend the money to fully fund government mental health and......they're right.

Besides, there have always been crazy people willing to kill someone for no particular reason going back to Cain killing Able (or caveman Og killing caveman Zog). What mades the difference when the actual shooting occurs is if there is someone on site who can actually respond to the threat.

Maybe ask your fellow Democrats/Liberals who seem to only care either pushing full citizenship to illegal aliens or they talk about "reparations" from whites to African Americans over what? slavery from 200 years ago?

 

[dannno]

Not fully confirmed but it's looking like he was a trans faggg

https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1831900930222256203

I was going to bet on that, but with all of the trans shootings lately it felt like betting on "black" at the roulette table for the eighth time in a row..