GA - Four confirmed dead in school shooting

[PAF]

I'm sure Sitting Bull and King Philip wanted the same things, and we know how that turned out.

So having a harem of mixed hotties is out of the question for you. Good, more for me lol

 

[Anti Federalist]

So having a harem of mixed hotties is out of the question for you. Good, more for me lol

Oh, pipe down...unless you got a sack of Benjamins you're willing to share with me, neither one of us are gonna have a harem of hotties of any color.

Shit, I'm so hard up, I couldn't manage a harem of green chicks like Capt. Kirk was canoodling with on Planet Claire.

 

[PAF]

Oh, pipe down...unless you got a sack of Benjamins you're willing to share with me, neither one of us are gonna have a harem of hotties of any color.

$#@!, I'm so hard up, I couldn't manage a harem of green chicks like Capt. Kirk was canoodling with on Planet Claire.

$ There's always Section 8 You're paying for them anyway

 

[jmdrake]

[MENTION=849]jmdrake[/MENTION]

You should be just as angry and agreeing with me on this.[1]

Why does the random killing of four, I am assuming black people based on the location of the subway service area, elicit no nationwide coverage, but this does?[2]

And why did you call me to task on it, and ignore [MENTION=58229]TheCount[/MENTION] 's immediate presumption that the victims were bums and homeless?[3]

Could they not have just as easily been black working class folks catching naps as they rode the train to report for early punch in jobs?[4]

It degrades quality of life across the board, that is what is being "taken".

I have said numerous times, I would like blacks to be successful and productive as well, with the caveat that I will oppose that which is detrimental to whites and I will always put the interest of whites before any other group. [5]

That said, the same policies and cultural Marxism that are, quite literally, exterminating whites, are just as bad if not worse for blacks.

Some jerkoff, most likely with a "rap sheet" twenty miles long, randomly assassinating people on a subway train, does nothing but rip to shreds the "quality of life" of the people in that neighborhood.[6]

Especially when you consider this is Chicago, where it is difficult if not impossible to carry a firearm for your protection.

[1] You have a credibility gap on the issue when you post a table that clearly shows most mass shootings are intraracial but that only highlights the small percentage when the perp is non-white and the victims are white. So no. I don't agree with you nor should I.

[2] Why did the random killing of four white girls in Ireland by a Muslim person of color elicit international coverage! And most of the white on white mass killings on your other list didn't get nationwide coverage. At least I never heard of them. The common denominator seems to be that both cases involved the deaths of children at a school. And as I recall you started the Irish girl stabbing thread. Okay. Recently I read a story in Alabama of a white man on death row who asked the judge to end his appeals because he knew he deserved to die and give the family closure. He killed 5 members of his estranged girlfriends family in their sleep with an ax and a gun. One of his victims was pregnant. There was no national news coverage of this story. Should there be? Are you angry that there wasn't?

[3] I pretty much ignore [MENTION=58229]TheCount[/MENTION] as a worthless troll.

[4] Could have been Just like the white people in your list of mass shootings and stabbings that were killed by other white people and have been ignored even by you. (Well..I shouldn't say you. Ignored by whoever decided to only highlight the few cases where white people where mass shooting victims from non white people).

[5] Great! I don't want white people to be randomly killed for no reason either. But I also understand that some stories are more newsworthy than others for reasons that have nothing to do with race. When black people killed black high school students at a Sweet 16 birthday party that was covered nationally on CNN, PBS and other national news outlets.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/18/us/dadeville-alabama-sweet-16-birthday-shooting-tuesday/index.html
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/5th-arrest-made-in-sweet-16-birthday-party-shooting

So the idea that specific instances of black on black crime that shock the consciousness of the world don't get covered is pure hogwash.

[6] Yes it's terrible. This is as bad as the driveby shootings that happened in the 1980s between the bloods and the crips. So what's your solution? The Newt Gingrich / Bill Clinton / Joe Biden 1993 crime bill that led to mass incarceration and further destabilized the black community was the result. Oh and the next year they threw in an assault weapons ban too. That was the Republican compromise to get the mass incarceration bill that they really wanted through. Donald Trump's solutions? More immunity for the police and encouraging stop and frisk. I doubt Trump will reverse course on mass incarceration, though he no longer touts what he did to undo it. Of course the real problem is lack of economic opportunity as shown by what happened in Tangelo Park Florida to cut crime in half. You seemed bothered by that story, and I never understood why, except maybe you're concerned that some ecconomic Marxists (as opposed to cultural Marxists) would pick up on that and say "If this one millionare can do this with his money, clearly the government could accomplish the same thing." My reponse to that is "Elon Musk, for all his faults, is better at launching rockets than NASA." So I would trust an individual millionaire / billionaire to save a town with his own money than I would some government "official" to do it with someone else's money.

 

[PAF]

So I would trust an individual millionaire / billionaire to save a town with his own money than I would some government "official" to do it with someone else's money.

I don't trust either one. I don't discriminate based on color, unless it's green and doesn't belong to me.

 

[TheCount]

@jmdrake

You should be just as angry and agreeing with me on this.

Why does the random killing of four, I am assuming black people based on the location of the subway service area, elicit no nationwide coverage, but this does?

And why did you call me to task on it, and ignore @TheCount 's immediate presumption that the victims were bums and homeless?

Could they not have just as easily been black working class folks catching naps as they rode the train to report for early punch in jobs?

I love how you're trying to squirm your way to a meaning other than what is blindingly obvious by the contents of your posts.



You think that this is somehow a conspiracy against white people when it's actually the complete opposite.

Black kid gets killed by a stray bullet from a drive-by shooting, that gets at most a mention on the local evening news.

White kid gets killed by a stray bullet in a school shooting, this gets weeks of press.

Poor and likely homeless people on a train get killed? Little to no coverage.

White dude gets pushed in front of a train? Weeks of coverage.

 

[jmdrake]

That post was placed there as a preemptive measure.

I had a suspicion that this a was white kid that carried out this shooting, even before any names were mentioned.

When the inevitable hue and cry goes out, from the ruling class and their obedient media organs, that the most dangerous threat to everybody is a white person with a gun, I made sure these well researched and quantifiable facts were ready and waiting to rebut that claim.

Probably because most mass school shootings are done by white people.

The vast majority of mass shootings, using the left's own definition of mass shooting, are committed by blacks.

That is not true.

See: https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

And: https://www.theviolenceproject.org/key-findings/

The second link really breaks it down. Whites make up 60% of the population and do 53% of the mass shootings. Blacks make up 14% of the population and 21% of the mass shootings. So blacks are disproporionately more likely to do mass shootings than whites but whites do the most.

However, when you look at certain public locations like K-12 schools, whites are disproportaionately represented!. I'm going to annotate these stats with OP (>5% - 10% over population percentage), SOP (sligthly over population at 2% - 5% over), GOP (>10% over population) and UP, SUP, GUP for UNDER using the same percentages. Anything under 2% either way I'll call "POP" for population.

Baseline population percentages: Whites 60%, Blacks 14%, Latins 19%, Asians 6.1%. Native American (not shown in chart on link) 2.9%, Middle Eastern (not shown in chart on link) 2.1%.

Mass shootings in general: White 53% (UP), Blacks 21% (GOP), Latins 10% (UP), Asians 7% (POP), Middle Eastern 4% (SOP), Natives 2% (POP), Other 5%.

K-12: Whites 81% (GOP), Blacks 6% (GUP), Latins 6% (UP), Native American 13% (GOP. Not sure what's going on here. Reservation school anger?)

Post Office: Whites 75% (GOP), Blacks 25% (GOP).

House Of Worship: Whites 73% (GOP), Blacks 18% (SOP), Other 9%.

Outdoors: Whites 62% (SOP), Blacks 24% (GOP), Latins 5% (GUP), Asians 5% (POP), Other 5%.

Resturant / Bar / Nightclub : Whites 62% (SOP), Blacks 10% (SUP - and suprisingly low), Latins 14% (UP), Asians 7% (POP), Middle Easter 3% (POP), Other 3%.

Retail: Whites 55% (SUP), Blacks 25% (GOP), Latins 8% (GUP), Asians 8% (SOP), Middle Eastern (SOP).

Place of residence: White 46% (GUP), Blacks 23% (OP), Latins 23% (SOP), Other 8%.

Office Whites 41% (GUP), blacks 29% (GOP), Latins 18% (POP), Asians 6% (POP), Middle Easter 6% (SOP).

Warehouse Factor: Whites 40% (GUP), Blacks 24% (GOP), Latins 16% (SUP), Asians 4% (SUP), Other 16%.

College / University : Whites 33% (GUP), Blacks 11% (SUP), Asians 44% (GOP...like WTH?), Latins 11% (UP).

Government Building : Whites 8% (GUP), Blacks 38% (GOP. I guess blacks are more angry at the government?), Asians 8% (SOP), Latins 31% (GOP. They're made with the blacks), Native Americans 8% (OP. They're mad too as this is the only stat the Natives even register on), Other 8%.

Where are the locations that get the most coverage when there is a shooting? School, Post Offices (remember when "going postal" was a thing? There was even a vdieo game with that title), and houses of worship.

 

[acptulsa]

Why did the random killing of four white girls in Ireland by a Muslim person of color elicit international coverage! And most of the white on white mass killings on your other list didn't get nationwide coverage. At least I never heard of them.

He doesn't know. He refuses to believe that this is all one long, elaborate psyop.

In 2020, George Floyd was the perfect thing to blow out of proportion because it was obvious that anyone rallying around the deviant was only doing it out of racial solidarity. So, Floyd was the perfect cover for their engineered riots and pallets of bricks, covering for a rather obvious and ham-handed steal.

Now that the Thievous Party has imported foreign criminals, and made themselves unelectable by doing all the damage it can to society, the economy and the children (the whole population, in fact) and even made itself unsalvageable by forcing its nomination on a hyena, the next obvious steal will certainly trigger bloodshed.

Which they're doing on purpose because they're 100% certain they can sell one of their tools as "our savior". In fact, they already have. AF is still harping about the way things were covered in 2020, and doesn't notice it has changed. Those who do notice the coverage has changed are like those who used to argue in 2016 that Trump was " too famous" to be made He Who Must Not Be Named (never mind who kept such a dumb show as The Apprentice on the air). They say, "The MSM has to tell libs about this stuff now because we exposed it." As if.

You see, Bill Gates is a white supremacist, so white supremacists are slated to win. The only reason the press villifies them is because if they think a eugenicist like Bill Gates is on their side, they won't fight. They'll finally smell a rat.

People like AF know the ruling class is ravenously hungry for depopulation, yet refuse to believe anyone could be so evil as to start a civil war in purpose, or to import criminals just to be the target of blood sport later when the screw has turned enough. Or, at least , it's a struggle for them to get their minds wrapped around it. Just like Democrats took the jab because they couldn't believe their doctors would front for an experiment by eugenicists.

How do you finish turning the USA into a typical third world shithole? Teach the population that human life is cheap.

 

[jmdrake]

I don't trust either one. I don't discriminate based on color, unless it's green and doesn't belong to me.

I"m confused. Why in the hell would you not trust someone to use his own money as he sees fit? That seems very anti libertarian to me.

 

[Valli6]

just another stupid kid with stupid parents

Take this all with a grain of salt for now, but it looks like this is your standard f'ed up kid with f'ed up parents - allegations suggest previously jailed, drug addicted mother, repeatedly robbed relatives to hock possesions for cash, domestic abusing father... and all interviewed by FBI last year...

Frankly, that interview alone was probably enough to implant the idea of performing a mass shooting into the front of the kid's brain!

...previously questioned by the FBI after an anonymous tip about a possible threat on school!
https://thesuperslice.com/blog/colt-gray-parents-parents-messy-relationship

https://x.com/whatsdabizness/status/1831521129560764725?

https://x.com/AngelMischa1/status/1831473024438026720?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Probably because most mass school shootings are done by white people.

Your source lists 150 mass shooting since 1982.

I have no idea what they are using as a metric, but we all know that is horseshit.

So far in 2024 there have been 44 mass shootings in the US, defined as four or more shot/killed excluding the perp, which is a higher bar than the numbers you are using.

But not according to Britannica, which is using the same numbers that Mother Jones is using, which is the same numbers that Statistica is using:

They say only three mass shootings have happened in 2024.

Using their own metric, there have 44 mass shooting so far this year.

Of those: 25 have been committed by blacks, 8 have been committed by whites, 6 have been committed by Hispanics, 5 have been committed by Asians/Arabs.

Here's the list:

I have randomly fact checked these incidents to verify the story, they have checked out.

Feel free to do so yourself, and if you can find one or more of them to be inaccurate or false, I will adjust the numbers.

 

[Anti Federalist]

People like AF know the ruling class is ravenously hungry for depopulation, yet refuse to believe anyone could be so evil as to start a civil war in purpose

What is the best way to prevent a civil war?

What is the best way to prevent a fatal domestic violence incident?

What is the best way to prevent two kids from fighting?

You separate the combatants.

 

[jmdrake]

Your source lists 150 mass shooting since 1982.

I have no idea what they are using as a metric, but we all know that is horse$#@!.

So far in 2024 there have been 44 mass shootings in the US, defined as four or more shot/killed excluding the perp, which is a higher bar than the numbers you are using.

But not according to Britannica, which is using the same numbers that Mother Jones is using, which is the same numbers that Statistica is using:

They say only three mass shootings have happened in 2024.

Using their own metric, there have 44 mass shooting so far this year.

Of those: 25 have been committed by blacks, 8 have been committed by whites, 6 have been committed by Hispanics, 5 have been committed by Asians/Arabs.

Here's the list:

I have randomly fact checked these incidents to verify the story, they have checked out.

Feel free to do so yourself, and if you can find one or more of them to be inaccurate or false, I will adjust the numbers.

Your stats are horseshyt. There have been 384 mass shootings in 2024.

See: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

 

[jmdrake]

What is the best way to prevent a civil war?

What is the best way to prevent a fatal domestic violence incident?

What is the best way to prevent two kids from fighting?

You separate the combatants.

By not using horseshyt statistics.

Your stats are horseshyt. There have been 384 mass shootings in 2024.

See: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

Hell. I downloaded the CSV file and there have been 21 mass shootings in Alabama in 2024 alone! And so you're going of stats of 44 total mass shootings in the entire freaking country? Maybe your stats were just for January.

Edit: AND YOUR STATS INCLUDE STABBINGS! Like WTF? So....you're going to count stabbings as mass shootings? You wouldn't accept that crap if some gun control group including stabbings for the purpose of banning AR15s. Cook the stats until you get the result you want. Okay.

That said, including mass stabbings in the stats your 44 number is way the hell too low.

 

[jmdrake]

[MENTION=849]jmdrake[/MENTION]

You should be just as angry and agreeing with me on this.

Why does the random killing of four, I am assuming black people based on the location of the subway service area, elicit no nationwide coverage, but this does?

And why did you call me to task on it, and ignore [MENTION=58229]TheCount[/MENTION] 's immediate presumption that the victims were bums and homeless?

Could they not have just as easily been black working class folks catching naps as they rode the train to report for early punch in jobs?




It degrades quality of life across the board, that is what is being "taken".

I have said numerous times, I would like blacks to be successful and productive as well, with the caveat that I will oppose that which is detrimental to whites and I will always put the interest of whites before any other group.

That said, the same policies and cultural Marxism that are, quite literally, exterminating whites, are just as bad if not worse for blacks.

Some jerkoff, most likely with a "rap sheet" twenty miles long, randomly assassinating people on a subway train, does nothing but rip to shreds the "quality of life" of the people in that neighborhood.

Especially when you consider this is Chicago, where it is difficult if not impossible to carry a firearm for your protection.

So....I owe [MENTION=58229]TheCount[/MENTION] an appology. It turns out he is right. The prevaling view is that they were homeless people. No they don't deserve to be killed. But you're also wrong to claim this has only been covered by local news. It's been all over national news outlets.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/02/us/4-people-killed-on-train-near-chicago/index.html

“The victims, they were all passengers on the train early this morning,” said Forest Park Deputy Chief Chris Chin. “The train was in motion on the way into Forest Park.”

The victims may have been homeless, Chin told CNN. Investigators are working with the Chicago Transit Authority to review surveillance footage of the shooting, which police said happened in two train cars: three in one car and the fourth in another.

“We don’t know for sure what (the victims’) social status is. Looking at the videos, they were asleep on the train,” Chin said.​

https://chicagohomeless.org/stateme...periencing-homelessness-on-the-cta-blue-line/

Statement on the murder of people experiencing homelessness on the CTA Blue Line

Chicago Coalition to end Homelessness (CCH) is devastated to learn of the senseless murder of four people – Simeon Bihesi, Adrian Collins, and two other victims that have not yet been identified – on the CTA Blue Line on Monday, September 2. Our understanding is that most if not all were experiencing homelessness and sleeping on the train at the time of their murder. The murderer must be held to account for taking their lives and be held responsible for this heinous act. We extend our deepest sympathies to the friends and family of those lost.

Everyone has the right to feel and be safe in our community, regardless of their housing status. Many people experiencing homelessness, when faced with many bad options, use public transportation as a space that offers a form of safety and community. The fact that the murderer took their lives in this space underlines how we have failed as a society.

These murders are not a random act of violence but are a glaring example of a pattern of violence, suffering, and cruelty people experiencing homelessness face every day simply because they are unhoused. We cannot write this moment off as a tragic, isolated incident, but must acknowledge it is the direct result of the systemic failures which have led to over 68,000 people in Chicago alone experiencing homelessness.

The only real, sustainable solution is adequately funding permanent housing and other services that the unhoused need to truly feel safe and not only be protected from acts of violence but have a chance to grow and thrive. Our city, our county, our state, and our federal government must do more – more funding and better policies that protect and support the unhoused and get all of them the permanent housing and services they deserve. No one should be in harm’s way the way these four victims were.

Our society continually makes excuses for why it is not the time to make real investments to solve the problem of homelessness. If not in a moment like this one, when?​

Other coverage of this same story.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/03/us/chicago-train-shooting-tuesday/index.html

https://time.com/7017463/chicago-area-train-shooting-deaths/

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/blue-line-train-shooting-charges-sleeping-victims/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgjvxypjjjlo

One of the homeless people killed was a Marine. His name was Simeon Bihesi. May he rest in peace.

In 2006 two white men drowned a black homeless woman, Tara Cole, by pushing her into the Cumberland River while she was sleeping in Downtown Nashville. (See: https://freedomtracks.com/taracole.html). That never became a national news story because...she was homeless. I lived in Nashville at the time and heard about it. But if you trying to find anything other than local coverage of this story you won't see anything. At least I don't. That flies in the face of the "It's always national news when a white person kills a black person" narrative that some white Americans push.

 

[acptulsa]

What is the best way to prevent a civil war?

What is the best way to prevent a fatal domestic violence incident?

What is the best way to prevent two kids from fighting?

You separate the combatants.

The U.S. government used secession as an excuse to start the last one...

In any case, nobody wants to stay behind with the criminal "migrants". So there will be blood spilled.

 

[acptulsa]

Meanwhile, back on topic...

 

[Anti Federalist]

Father of Georgia Shooting Suspect Arrested, Charged with Involuntary Manslaughter, 2nd Degree Murder

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amend...h-involuntary-manslaughter-2nd-degree-murder/

AWR Hawkins 5 Sep 2024

The father of the 14-year-old Apalachee High School attack suspect was arrested Thursday and charged with manslaughter and other charges.

CBS News reported that law enforcement sources indicated 54-year-old Colin Gray allegedly gave an AR-15 rifle to son “as a gift…in December 2023.”

The specific charges against the father include “four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder and eight counts of
cruelty to children.”

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) noted that the charges “stem from Mr. Gray knowingly allowing his son…to possess a weapon.”

GBI called for communities across the state to encourage students “across this state to contact a member of their school faculty with any and all concerns of suspicious that they may see.”

The 14-year-old arrested for the Apalachee High School shooting has been charged with four counts of felony murder.

Barrow County Sheriff Jud Smith spoke at the press conference Thursday night and announced that the nine individuals who were injured in the attack will be making “a full recovery.”

Breitbart News reported that the 14-year-old attacker was stopped by a good guy with a gun. The good guy was a deputy serving as a School Resource Officer.

 

[Anti Federalist]

By not using horseshyt statistics.

Your stats are horseshyt. There have been 384 mass shootings in 2024.

See: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

Hell. I downloaded the CSV file and there have been 21 mass shootings in Alabama in 2024 alone! And so you're going of stats of 44 total mass shootings in the entire freaking country? Maybe your stats were just for January.

Edit: AND YOUR STATS INCLUDE STABBINGS! Like WTF? So....you're going to count stabbings as mass shootings? You wouldn't accept that crap if some gun control group including stabbings for the purpose of banning AR15s. Cook the stats until you get the result you want. Okay.

That said, including mass stabbings in the stats your 44 number is way the hell too low.

Your stats are horseshyt. There have been 384 mass shootings in 2024.

See: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

So, at the site you posted, I have just followed up on the first 25 mass shootings on the first page ranging from 4 Sept to 22 Aug.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

Out of 25, 8 were committed by blacks, 4 were committed by whites, 1 was committed by a Hispanic.

12 I was unable to confirm, because of the almost non existent reporting on them, which is a point I have been making all along.

But, based on the location, the victim's names and descriptions, the manner of the shooting and the town or city where the shooting took place, I will bet hard gold that every single one was committed by a black.



The reporting would go something like this:

5 men were shot at a house party at the 1200 block of MLK Jr. Way early this morning.

All five remain in serious condition.

Police have no description of the gunman, but want citizens to remain on the lookout for the suspect.



I'm moving on to page two.

Feel free to correct or double check my work.

 

[CaptUSA]

Father of Georgia Shooting Suspect Arrested, Charged with Involuntary Manslaughter, 2nd Degree Murder

Oh yeah, this is meant to be an election year issue. Poor guy... First his son goes nuts and murders people and while he's dealing with that, HE becomes the focus of the State's lawfare.