FRUSTRATION-To be shunned by the MSM while honestly running a campaign.

Giuliani still had a respectable % in the national polls and Florida. His strategy was to win in Florida.

Bullshit. He put more time into New Hampshire than anyone but Romney, and a lot of money as well. Florida was his last stand only because he realized all his campaigning was making him less popular in the early states. Maybe he shouldn't have campaigned down here, either.

He was also covered more than Paul even after he dropped out (endorsing and campaigning for McCain), as was Thompson for a while.

I wish they would cover Ron Paul more, but if you don't win or aren't competitive in the polls, they'll forget all about you. Paul has little chance to win anywhere or even make a big impact so they've decided to just cover the 3 who will win something today.

Paul was running fourth after the first two states but was ignored just the same. The media justified it by saying Thompson and Giuliani had "last stands" later on. Maybe Paul should have proclaimed a last stand in the final primary of the season?

And what the hell is "competitive in the polls"? You know as well as any of us that the media shat upon Paul from May '07 when he took on Giuliani in that debate through the beginning of this year. EIGHT MONTHS of "he can't win" "he's an extremist" "he an isolationist" "he's not really a conservative/Republican" etc., and that's when they actually covered him, and it's no surprise he got 10% in Iowa. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy and it's as far from impartial reporting as you can get.
 
Wonder how many letters of threats in the snail mail the MSM folks have recieved from people being very careful not to put any finger prints or suliva on the glue part or mailing them from their home town have they gotten because of this? Just a curious question is all after reading this thread. I don't advise this kinda behavior though. Just wondering?
 
And why did he have high poll numbers?

Again, bullshit argument. You can't get higher poll numbers if no one knows who the hell you are.

What did Giuliani win? Nothing.

Take your blinders off and watch the video.

You're contradicting yourself a bit there, but regardless ...

Nobody knows who Ron Paul is because the media doesn't talk about him. Or if they do know who he is, they think he's some "fringe candidate with no chance."

Guiliani didn't win because nobody liked him and his message, particularly because he spout out 9/11 repeatedly, had a history of making bad choices and a vocal number of New Yorkers had a bad taste left in their mouths.

If his message and history was that of Ron Paul's and he had gotten the same amount of coverage, he damn sure would have done better.
 
Sheesh, this is aggravating, no wonder everyone gets pissed...just listening to these news channels and how they never ever ever ever ever mention Ron Paul...is disgusting, a preposterous tactic.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

CNN Is pushing for Obama to win the white house, why are you surprised? Just look at the past month of the mega push, its so obvious that CNN is for Obama and Fox lost Thomson and now is pushing Flipper.. Welcome to America where the Media elects your president!
 
And why did he have high poll numbers?

Answer: THe mainstream media CONSTANTLY talked about him.

Again, bullshit argument. You can't get higher poll numbers if no one knows who the hell you are.

What did Giuliani win? Nothing.

If you watch the video I linked to you'll see they did this in the 90's with a Democratic Presidential candidate who had good poll numbers

Take your blinders off and watch the video.

I guess Mike Huckabee was well known nationally before this process began. It seems like Governor Huckabee had a good strategy getting attention for himself by focusing on the Iowa vote and winning Iowa. You can get higher poll numbers if you win one of the early states and prove yourself like Huckabee did.

As I said before, Giuliani still had decent numbers in Florida and nationally. Paul did not. Everybody knows Paul isn't going to win a thing. A majority of his own party doesn't like him. Paul got as much coverage before a vote was cast as other people with similar poll numbers, and he actually probably got more. I remember seeing Paul on all 3 Sunday Morning talk shows and basically every other political show on tv.

You guys are the ones who need to take your blinders off. You're too biased for Ron Paul and don't understand why the media doesn't cover someone who has no chance of winning and hasn't won anything yet. And what exactly do you propose to do about the media? Bitching about it on an internet forum is sure doing a lot of good. I'm guessing you don't want the government telling these stations who to cover, so what do you do?
 
I guess Mike Huckabee was well known nationally before this process began. It seems like Governor Huckabee had a good strategy getting attention for himself by focusing on the Iowa vote and winning Iowa. You can get higher poll numbers if you win one of the early states and prove yourself like Huckabee did.

While I agree that Paul should have focused more on Iowa, Huckabee had it far easier considering his built-in constituency (evangelicals). Even before he rose to the top of the polls, the media started going crazy talking about him "surging" into respectable double digits. When fence-sitters and people who weren't thrilled about backing Romney saw that this guy had a chance (and even existed), they piled on board. Paul rarely broke double digits, and even when he did they typically didn't show those poll results, and they often omitted his name even when he had strong single digits and was doing as well as one or two other "frontrunners."

As I said before, Giuliani still had decent numbers in Florida and nationally. Paul did not. Everybody knows Paul isn't going to win a thing. A majority of his own party doesn't like him. Paul got as much coverage before a vote was cast as other people with similar poll numbers, and he actually probably got more. I remember seeing Paul on all 3 Sunday Morning talk shows and basically every other political show on tv.

Giuliani had those numbers because he was nationally known (Florida is just a microcosm of the nation) and the media had been hyping him for over a year.

Paul's own party didn't even know who the hell he was until the coverage started, and while I'm sure Paul turned some off because he's not a neocon the media repeatedly describing him as an "isolationist" and a capital-L Libertarian didn't help his case at all.

And the media coverage we're talking about is not Sunday morning talk shows, it's the 24-hour "who's up? who's down? who said what?" coverage from the talking heads obsessed with celebrities and horse races.

You guys are the ones who need to take your blinders off. You're too biased for Ron Paul and don't understand why the media doesn't cover someone who has no chance of winning and hasn't won anything yet.

I'm not asking for round-the-clock Paul coverage, I'm asking for them to stop reporting that there are only three candidates left, stop leading reports on Paul with "he can't win," etc. Paul probably gets less than 1% of candidate coverage, despite his poll numbers being closer to 6% and even his odds to win the nomination being above 1%.

And what exactly do you propose to do about the media? Bitching about it on an internet forum is sure doing a lot of good. I'm guessing you don't want the government telling these stations who to cover, so what do you do?

Exercise our free speech, explain to people who should know better (like you) exactly what we're talking about, and propose getting rid of the special rights that enable corporate media to have the power it does, for starters.
 
If you don't believe the MSM is controlled by globalist, New World Order interests, then you are a f*ckwit.
 
All I know is I love the movement, I think this is the start of something good, and even if nothing comes of this election WE SHOULD KEEP THIS FORUM open, as a tribute to Dr. Paul and his good message, and we should welcome all those who are yet to understand the true meaning of liberty and the pursuit of happiness and limited gov't...Continue to Canvass, not only for Paul's message, but for our message, and how we're united under one cause in this forum...FREEDOM. It's popular.:D
 
Hopefully, the people who vote for Ron Paul will vote after work today. It was like that in the 2004 presidential election. Kerry was winning all day, then the Republicans got home from work and Bush won!
 
It's a shame we had to lose this. Canvassing has taught me a lot though about my fellow American and I'm now completely convinced that we can't change things from within the system. To hear so many people side with Romney or McCain, even while bashing them for not being true conservatives, has been an eye opener. I always knew the media had a lot of power in this country, but to see it first hand is jarring.

To say that the media shouldn't be reporting on someone low in the polls is kind of missing the point. Ron Paul's accomplishments are storyworthy precisely because he was getting all this money and internet support, despite his low standing in the polls. The media tried to bury him from day one, and they easily accomplished that.

Whatever our next path for liberty in this country is, the first order of business should be dealing with the media. We're so focused on government abuses and oppression, but the mainstream media is their primary supply line in their war against the middle class. If you deal with them, dealing with the government later is trivial, by comparison. I'm not sure what our options are, but it's clear to me that's where our focus should be.
 
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