From New Hampshire

Jared, please ignore these people. I was on the ground in NH too and the results are not due to any kind of fraud. The notion is ridiculous to most people. I did plenty of random door knocking and based on my own experience the results of the election are accurate. We do not get our message out to the average person on the real world, the complainers liver in an online fantasy world. If the 8% will focus their efforts on getting the message to these people, we will grow.

QFT
 
Thanks Jared. You all did a great job!

I'm relieved to know there were no major issues with the count. I support RP's position on the matter. I see no point in arguing about 4th vs 5th place. If we were talking 1st vs 2nd? Maybe. But come people let it go! We have bigger fish to fry.
 
literatim,

name the "quite of few" that got thrown out, the towns they got thrown out of, and how I can get ahold of them. What part of New Hampshire were you in?

Jared,

what if the campaign did not pay for it, but supporters. Do you feel that would have consequences?

The only problem with supporters doing it, is that they could take their own sweet time dealing with it.

Also, - Jared... can you for sure tell all of us that the poll watchers you talked to can confirm their count with what was reported AND if so, how do you explain the 2 discreptancies propping up? Also, how do you explain the difference in hand vs. diebold counting?

Also - don't you think we are already labeled fringe? Even on O'reilly today he said we are done.. YET, says "thompson" is still in it cause he didn't really run in NH. This is what we are up against, always. Why will counting the votes change it?

I am curious as to your fears and why we will be labeled as fringe? I am not sure either way at this point so I am open to both sides.
 
Calm down. "A real supporter" is not determined by this single topic. I could argue that you are not a real supporter, because you damage this campaign with unproven accusations. Let's stick to arguments not attacks.

Actually I was being facetious. Hense the :rolleyes:
 
Agree with OP... we need to drop this and move on now! A recount will not help us and will not ultimately change the results. Look forwards and not backwards.
 
I was in Temple, and I can tell you that the vote here (at least in my booth) was in pencil.

I've already written to all of my state reps and my state senator to try to get a bill introduced to make indelible ink or marker required for every ballot in every election - March, November, et al.

I'm not saying anything WAS done improperly, but why pencil? If checks, reciepts and bills of sale have to be in ink, why not ballots?

JM
 
The vote hasn't even been certified yet.

There is plenty of evidence of fraud if you look. (Sutton, Greenville, Mount Vernon, etc).
 
Once again, I am someone who was on the ground in New Hampshire who has been in touch with the Ron Paul poll watchers. Thanks for treating someone who has been volunteering here for 6 months with some dignity. Nice work guys.

Jared, don't let people here get to you. Thanks for your efforts in NH. :)
 
Fantasy world? You are unbelievable. We were on the ground in New Hampshire.. Where were you?

I was in Manchester. estimate about 500 doors knocked last week (my team). that is real experience with average people, not online. there is no fraud, we lost because of bad strategy and the fact that most people vote on what information they get from msm. why is that unbelievable? my statement is based on real facts and experience unlike most people posting.
 
I was in Manchester. estimate about 500 doors knocked last week (my team). that is real experience with average people, not online. there is no fraud, we lost because of bad strategy and the fact that most people vote on what information they get from msm. why is that unbelievable? my statement is based on real facts and experience unlike most people posting.

jb4ronpaul: What do you think was the bad strategy specifically? I have been unhappy about the way the campaign has been conducted.
 
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How come everyone who thinks the campaign ought move on to more important things is a troll, a false patriot, etc? You guys sound just like Bush supporters.

Because for a long time, these people thought that their ability to shout down people online was directly related to the success of their candidate?
 
when did your "team" show up in New Hampshire? Were you here in Sept and Nov?

We did lose in New Hampshire I have no doubt of that.

But votes should be taken seriously. Today its 31 votes tomorrow its 310 votes a year from now its 30k votes...

I NEVER believed in voter fraud until last night.

I was in Manchester. estimate about 500 doors knocked last week (my team). that is real experience with average people, not online. there is no fraud, we lost because of bad strategy and the fact that most people vote on what information they get from msm. why is that unbelievable? my statement is based on real facts and experience unlike most people posting.
 
Guys,

I have spoken with many poll watchers between last night at the election night party, and today via e-mail. I have heard of no voter fraud accusations except from the people on this newsgroup who weren't in New Hampshire. Please let the campaign decide what is best, if we were to demand a recount we would be looked at as totally fringe and any hopes of this campaign would be shattered the minute they asked for it. Deep breaths, let Dr. Paul decide what's best.

Thank you for posting!

If there was any significant vote fraud, it would have been obvious to the people working on the ground, like it was for the person in Sutton. Unless/until the New Hampshire ground forces allege that there were enough problems to justify a recount, those of us who weren't there and don't know what happened should defer to the judgement of those who were.
 
eh, it's called the boston globe. They reported the number and were confirmed by them when they published. Then they changed it again. Go on youtube and will see what people are talking about. Even the cleerk at sutton admitted it and 31 was added to the vote count.
 
Thank you for posting!

If there was any significant vote fraud, it would have been obvious to the people working on the ground, like it was for the person in Sutton. Unless/until the New Hampshire ground forces allege that there were enough problems to justify a recount, those of us who weren't there and don't know what happened should defer to the judgement of those who were.

Agree. And thank you Jared.
 
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