Freedom Watch and Judge Napolitano Attacked

[NightOwl]

The Daily Beast is a substantial left-wing blog. So far the comments are all by leftist automatons. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-29/too-hot-for-fox-news/

 

[Cowlesy]

You have to smile when someone launches an attack on a show called FREEDOM Watch.

 

[eduardo89]

DailyBeast is such a crap website, it's for the lazy who just want to read a headline and pretend they know everything...not to mention all their pieces come from leftist papers like the NY Time and LA Times

 

[yongrel]

And that's why ya don't put Alex Jones or the John Birch Society on television...

 

[Stary Hickory]

You have to smile when someone launches an attack on a show called FREEDOM Watch.

Lol, you have to really ask yourself serious questions when you oppose freedom....

 

[Cowlesy]

And that's why ya don't put Alex Jones or the John Birch Society on television...

I'd rather have Alex Jones be paranoid and constantly worried about Freedom over another media drone complaining about what kind of beer Obama drank at the picnic table discussion about racism.

 

[FrankRep]

And that's why ya don't put Alex Jones or the John Birch Society on television...

John Birch Society/John McManus did a great job on Freedom Watch. Why are you attacking them?

 

[jkr]

they lost all credibility with me when they named it...

FUCK them

 

[NYgs23]

Excellent. That means the show is getting attention.

 

[Epic]

Wow, the author really came it with the whole kitchen sink.

Tom Woods and League of South. Check.
Rockwell and the Newsletters. Check
Jones and 911 truth. Check
Equation secession with anti-americanism. Check.
Saying the pro-freedom JBS is anti-freedom. Check.

All the same tired discredited arguments....

 

[NYgs23]

I'd rather have Alex Jones be paranoid and constantly worried about Freedom over another media drone complaining about what kind of beer Obama drank at the picnic table discussion about racism.

The dinosaur media and partisan political lackeys generate vast waves of heat denouncing powerless "Birthers" and "conspiracy theorists" to distract from the real issues and shame those who question their doctrines. It's a tactic. Look how much time and energy entities like the HuffPost and MSNBC spend throwing verbal tomatoes at the now powerless Sarah Palin, while the truly powerful rush thousand page bills in laws with nary a chirp

 

[Chieftain1776]

Yeah I saw this earlier in the morning and was going to start a thread. I made a long response but they haven't "approved" it yet. I'll post it here if the author is too much of a coward to post the response. As you many of you guys know I hated the fact that Alex Jones was on Freedom Watch but the Media has a double standard with the high profile loonies on the left and I called them on it.

 

[Matt Collins]

And that's why ya don't put Alex Jones or the John Birch Society on television...

I completely agree.

And the blog actually had some honestly valid points. Associating ourselves with conspiracy theorists allows for an instant disqualification of credibility. I think the JBS does many great things and they are right on a lot of issues, but I am not a member nor will I be due to the current stigma attached to them. Alex Jones says a lot of very true things and he gets people to think outside the box (which is important), but he is a conspiracy theorist and thus has little, if any, credibility; he's sort of the Michael Moore of the right, but worse.


Of course the blog was an attack, but the attack may have been warranted to a slight degree. The liberty movement, if it wants to become mainstream and gain credibility, cannot be hoisting those who will turn people off as their main spokesmen.

 

[NightOwl]

And that's why ya don't put Alex Jones or the John Birch Society on television...

Because a shill like Michelle Goldberg, who obviously hates Ron Paul, would have been nice to us otherwise?

 

[gls]

And that's why ya don't put Alex Jones or the John Birch Society on television...

Yeah if only they just stick to guests from the pro-Federal Reserve, pro-Empire CATO/Reason Magazine "libertarian" faction that you support....

 

[itshappening]

The dinosaur media and partisan political lackeys generate vast waves of heat denouncing powerless "Birthers" and "conspiracy theorists" to distract from the real issues and shame those who question their doctrines. It's a tactic. Look how much time and energy entities like the HuffPost and MSNBC spend throwing verbal tomatoes at the now powerless Sarah Palin, while the truly powerful rush thousand page bills in laws with nary a chirp

that's a very good point about Palin, total distraction it is while they pass 1000 page laws on cap and trade and health takeovers!

 

[FrankRep]

I think the JBS does many great things and they are right on a lot of issues, but I am not a member nor will I be due to the current stigma attached to them.

The most effective organizations out there are the ones most viciously attacked by the media. No organization has been attacked more than the John Birch Society.

Ron Paul even endorses the John Birch Society. There's a good reason.

 

[mczerone]

I completely agree.

And the blog actually had some honestly valid points. Associating ourselves with conspiracy theorists allows for an instant disqualification of credibility. I think the JBS does many great things and they are right on a lot of issues, but I am not a member nor will I be due to the current stigma attached to them. Alex Jones says a lot of very true things and he gets people to think outside the box (which is important), but he is a conspiracy theorist and thus has little, if any, credibility; he's sort of the Michael Moore of the right, but worse.


Of course the blog was an attack, but the attack may have been warranted to a slight degree. The liberty movement, if it wants to become mainstream and gain credibility, cannot be hoisting those who will turn people off as their main spokesmen.

Personally, I don't like Alex Jones (or his infowars or prison planet crowds), nor the JBS.

That being said - the show is called "Freedom Watch" and it, AFAIK, is trying to be a broad-tent and allow as many people to freely associate with the Liberty movement as possible. Last I checked Judge Napolitano never endorsed any 911 theories, or mentioned his own membership in JBS.

I think Gerald Celente is a crank, but I don't claim that he detracts from the message. Maybe I wouldn't include him in a show that I produced, but I'm not going to rant about how the Judge includes such a character.

The Liberty movement, if it wants to become mainstream and gain credibility, cannot be self-divisive and worrying about how our enemies will characterize our associates. Be your own spokesman, select your own associates, and let other people do the same. If you really don't like the choices that the Judge or any other program makes, you don't have to support their efforts.

It is "Liberty" that we are striving for, after all.

 

[Chieftain1776]

Personally, I don't like Alex Jones (or his infowars or prison planet crowds), nor the JBS.

That being said - the show is called "Freedom Watch" and it, AFAIK, is trying to be a broad-tent and allow as many people to freely associate with the Liberty movement as possible. Last I checked Judge Napolitano never endorsed any 911 theories, or mentioned his own membership in JBS.

I think Gerald Celente is a crank, but I don't claim that he detracts from the message. Maybe I wouldn't include him in a show that I produced, but I'm not going to rant about how the Judge includes such a character.

The Liberty movement, if it wants to become mainstream and gain credibility, cannot be self-divisive and worrying about how our enemies will characterize our associates. Be your own spokesman, select your own associates, and let other people do the same. If you really don't like the choices that the Judge or any other program makes, you don't have to support their efforts.

It is "Liberty" that we are striving for, after all.

I've pretty much come around to this view. Especially with the association part. I just don't think Ron Paul or Judge Napolitano should be "pandering" and thus far they've done a good job of promoting their own views.

Since the COWARDS at Daily Beast haven't posted my response here it goes: UPDATE: They finally posted it...A whole day later

 

[Matt Collins]

The most effective organizations out there are the ones most viciously attacked by the media. No organization has been attacked more than the John Birch Society.

Ron Paul even endorses the John Birch Society. There's a good reason.

I would not call the JBS "effective".