Freedom Watch 11/18 - Glenn Beck regrets support of P. Act, slams TSA, praises Ron

[trey4sports]

Beck has been a strong ally to the Liberty movement.

He is the only guy in the media (including the Judge) who talks about the CFR, global governance, NWO, Soros, and all the other "fringe" yet serious issues that confront this nation. He has brought light to so many incredibly powerful yet relatively unknown issues that it is a joy just to see what he'll talk about next.

Regardless of who he endorses he has immensely educated the American people.

 

[vita3]

Glenn Beck is a histronic nut.

& will always be.

 

[CaseyJones]

bump

 

[payme_rick]

How about that Trace Adkins fella? Straight-up said we should be profiling, obviously meaning muslims...

I'm too big a fan of music, I would have talked shit about the crappy pop-country him and his colleagues are putting out these days... Can't stand it...

 

[roho76]

That was funny when The Judge said old-guard social conservatives have plundered our tax dollars as much as the democrats, then a few minutes later he called Huckabee an old-guard social conservative.

The look on his face when the camera returned to him after the clip of why he didn't go to CPAC was awesome.

 

[Romulus]

He's trying to steer Palin's followers, and perhaps Sarah herself, into the Ron Paul direction. He gave his point blank opinion on Palin last election, but repeating such things will alienate Beck and tea partiers. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar type approach.

winner and + rep

 

[speciallyblend]

go away beck

 

[Brett85]

How about that Trace Adkins fella? Straight-up said we should be profiling, obviously meaning muslims...

We absolutely should be profiling. Does it make more sense to check a 90 year old grandma, or check a 21 year old arab from Yemen?

 

[payme_rick]

We absolutely should be profiling. Does it make more sense to check a 90 year old grandma, or check a 21 year old arab from Yemen?

So you're fine with the TSA porn-scanners and gropes for muslims, but no one else? That's what he meant...

I'm not fine with them period...

 

[mczerone]

It's the "I'm more Libertarian than You!" debate.

No, its more: "I know libertarians. Libertarians are my friends. And Sarah Palin is no libertarian."

Wanting the government to do less does not make one a libertarian. It may make her an ally in some initiatives, but it doesn't mean she has any sense of non-aggression and thus equal rights.

 

[Batman]

Why must the judge put Ron Paul and Sarah Palin into the same "libertarian" wing of the party? That's quite a stretch. I think he has a crush on her or something.

I can't remember where I remembered reading it, but there was a pretty detailed article that explained Sarah Palin before she was the Sarah Palin we know. The way it described her, she was closer to the libertarian or constitutionalist side of the debate. Sarah jumped at the chance to be McCain's running mate, but she had a lot of baggage from her past on the matter of a very short temper. McCain blackmailed her into towing the party line and there were many instances during the campaign where she said some surprisingly anti-neocon things that got her into hot water. She tried moving back to those same roots after the campaign until Fox News apparently tried to blackmail her again into doing what they wanted and has since pretty much done what the establishment asked of her.

Take it with a grain of salt if you must, but I found that article to be pretty interesting.

 

[ravedown]

Beck has already stated on radio that he loves Demint and would support him if he runs. The fact that beck seems to go out of his way to avoid Ron Paul during his discussions regarding the fed and other topics that Ron has brought to the mainstream tells me he's already in the bag for someone, probably Romney/Demint/Palin.

 

[mczerone]

We absolutely should be profiling. Does it make more sense to check a 90 year old grandma, or check a 21 year old arab from Yemen?

Three problems:

First, by their own rules the government is supposed to give everyone "equal protection under the law", and cannot discriminate on the basis of race. To profile may indeed be more effective, but it is not Constitutional. Behavioral profiling of all passengers would solve this problem in a non-discriminating way.

Second, how do we know which methods are most effective if the state regulates the procedures? If no planes are blown up, it may be because of security, it may be because of something else. If planes are blown up, then was security too lax or was it inevitable despite any type of security? In either case (apparent success or failure) the security can ask for and will receive more resources and more invasive procedures.

Third, just because it is more likely for a person of particular appearance to have nefarious intentions, other people (yes, even senior ladies) may also have such plans. In fact, if profiling were to occur, terrorizing organizations would just recruit more non-profiled peoples to carry out their plans, either by persuading them to their ideals or by coercing them into being a patsy. Do you think it's beyond those set on evil to send children in to do their dirty work? Or that a housewife from the midwest is incapable of deciding that violence is the answer?

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Now, Beck's statements are a perfect example of being a Populist.

US Senator and FED shill Judd Gregg called Ron Paul a "populist" with his HR 1207 a few months ago on CNBC... this is an absolute lie because we all know Ron has been after the FED for decades and Gregg, et al, labeled him as nutty, before this became popular, but now that people/citizens/Americans are catching on to the truth of the Federal Reserve, it has become very popular, not onl;y in AMerica, but across the planet.

For Glenn Beck, now that the people(especially the true Tea Party starters here and now TP groups across America), realize, exposed, and against the damage of THE FED, THE PATRIOT ACT, or Liberties and Freedoms systematically being stripped.

The revolt against the huge Government establishment lining their pockets or for themselves immunites, special privledges, and growth of their imperial empire... has struck a nerve with Americans across all political persuasions ... Beck and FOX and FRIENDS knows this...

Beck is riding the wave, all the way to the bank and he can falsely fool himself as a "Do Gooder"

Never trust ANY MSM corporate outlet or their puppets running popularity games!

 

[Anti Federalist]

I can't remember where I remembered reading it, but there was a pretty detailed article that explained Sarah Palin before she was the Sarah Palin we know. The way it described her, she was closer to the libertarian or constitutionalist side of the debate. Sarah jumped at the chance to be McCain's running mate, but she had a lot of baggage from her past on the matter of a very short temper. McCain blackmailed her into towing the party line and there were many instances during the campaign where she said some surprisingly anti-neocon things that got her into hot water. She tried moving back to those same roots after the campaign until Fox News apparently tried to blackmail her again into doing what they wanted and has since pretty much done what the establishment asked of her.

Take it with a grain of salt if you must, but I found that article to be pretty interesting.

There was some amount of Palin love around here back 2007/2008.

Some even floated her name as a possible running mate for Ron.

 

[mczerone]

I can't remember where I remembered reading it, but there was a pretty detailed article that explained Sarah Palin before she was the Sarah Palin we know. The way it described her, she was closer to the libertarian or constitutionalist side of the debate. Sarah jumped at the chance to be McCain's running mate, but she had a lot of baggage from her past on the matter of a very short temper. McCain blackmailed her into towing the party line and there were many instances during the campaign where she said some surprisingly anti-neocon things that got her into hot water. She tried moving back to those same roots after the campaign until Fox News apparently tried to blackmail her again into doing what they wanted and has since pretty much done what the establishment asked of her.

Take it with a grain of salt if you must, but I found that article to be pretty interesting.

I'm sorry, but even if this were true, sacrificing your principles for political advantage shows that you have no principles.

If she only cares about saying the "right things" to gain political power, then she obviously doesn't care for freedom or constitutionalism. For example, Ron Paul has had political success to the degree that he has because his doesn't sacrifice his principles, and he can claim to have those principles to this day. Palin's principles, as she has exhibited them, are to try to be in control of government, not to limit government in any way shape or form, unless, of course, saying so would get her more political favors. And once a person such as her is in power, the only favors she can get are from those looking to protect their political advantages - so nothing gets cut, and her favorite supporters get her to expand their government protections.

 

[jmdrake]

And this is why an Obama win was good for the Republican party. Had McCain won, republicans would still be defending the idea of "trading liberty for security". I kept telling conservatives who stuck to the "Constitution is not a suicide pact" lie to "Imagine Hillary Clinton with that kind of power". I had no idea at the time that "Hillary" would end up being Obama. We've got to hold Beck to this when it really counts in the primary.

 

[Batman]

I'm sorry, but even if this were true, sacrificing your principles for political advantage shows that you have no principles.

If she only cares about saying the "right things" to gain political power, then she obviously doesn't care for freedom or constitutionalism. For example, Ron Paul has had political success to the degree that he has because his doesn't sacrifice his principles, and he can claim to have those principles to this day. Palin's principles, as she has exhibited them, are to try to be in control of government, not to limit government in any way shape or form, unless, of course, saying so would get her more political favors. And once a person such as her is in power, the only favors she can get are from those looking to protect their political advantages - so nothing gets cut, and her favorite supporters get her to expand their government protections.

I agree, but from what I could glean Sarah may not be sacrificing her principles for political advantage but more likely due to financial or family reasons. I'm not happy with the way she stands on things but if this is the case then I can understand why she may have changed her tune. As long as the possibility of rehabilitation exists I won't reject her outright.

 

[Daamien]

A bit unrelated, but I find it hilariously hypocritical that Glenn Beck cites Michael Chertoff personally profiting off the use of body scanners by falsely saying "this is the best product" when Beck has been known to profit off pushing Goldline by also falsely claiming it offers "the best product".

 

[Batman]

I thought all commentators advertise gold , though.