Free Staters Not Welcome in New Hampshire

Oh, I forget to post this news in this thread. Here it is.

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A New Hampshire state legislator says she wants to restrict the freedoms of conservatives and libertarians.

Breitbart.com reports Democrat Cynthia Chase is urging colleagues to prevent small government advocates -- called Free Staters -- from taking over New Hampshire politics.

Chase writes -- quote -- "Free Staters are the single biggest threat the state is facing today. What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come and some may actually leave. One way is to pass measures that will restrict the 'freedoms' that they think they will find here."
 
The main paper in NH, the Union Leader decided to get involved with an editorial in defense of the Free State Project. I'm happy to have the statewide newspaper on the side of the FSP, even if it occasionally makes very odd endorsements.

January 12. 2013 11:41PM
The greater threat: Free Staters or dictators?
EDITORIAL
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130113/OPINION01/130119683
In 2001, some libertarians thought they could secure the maximum amount of personal liberty for themselves if they convinced like-minded people to move en masse to one state. They chose New Hampshire for the combination of its "Live free or die" ethos and its small size. Their goal was to have 20,000 people move here, a state with 1.3 million people, making them a whopping 1.5 percent of the population. In 11 years, about 1,000 have come. At this rate, they will reach their goal in 220 years.

And yet this movement is what some on New Hampshire's far left consider an existential threat. Last month, Democratic state Rep. Cynthia Chase of Keene posted this comment on the liberal blog BlueHampshire: "In the opinion of this Democrat, Free Staters are the single biggest threat the state is facing today. There is, legally, nothing we can do to prevent them from moving here to take over the state, which is their openly stated goal. In this country you can move anywhere you choose and they have that same right. What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave. One way is to pass measures that will restrict the 'freedoms' that they think they will find here...."

Had the comment not come from an elected state representative, it would be laughable. But when a member of the majority party in the House of Representatives openly advocates restricting personal freedoms for the purposes of molding the electorate to her liking, alarm bells ought to ring.

As demonstrated last week, some Free Staters are indeed radical. Local radio host Rich Girard included a Manchester Free Stater and city police Officer Dan Dougherty, who was shot multiple times while pursuing a suspect, in an online poll asking listeners who should be the person of the year. Some people identifying themselves as Free Staters said vile things about Officer Doughtery in particular and police officers in general.

It is true that some in the Free State movement consider themselves "voluntaryists," not libertarians. They believe that even the existence of police officers and prisons is a violation of their rights. But in our experience over the last decade, they are not representative of the movement as a whole (though they are very vocal in Keene, home of Rep. Chase, which might give her a skewed view of the entire movement).

To think that these few misguided souls are a grave threat to the State of New Hampshire is silly.

A much greater threat lies in the dictatorial impulses of legislators who find it permissible to reshape the electorate in their favor through the selective dismemberment of our liberties.
 
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Another section of Examiner covered this story. There are a lot of links and the formatting is interesting. I recommend clicking on the link. However, you may also scroll down for the full article.

Garry Reed, Libertarian News Examiner
New Hampshire becomes New Hateshire
Hate speech
January 10, 2013
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-hampshire-becomes-new-hateshire

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Petition for Redress Delivered
January 14, 2013 by Darryl W. Perry
http://freekeene.com/2013/01/14/petition-for-redress-delivered/

On January 14 at 9:40am a Petition for Redress of Grievances was filed against State Representative Cynthia Chase with the Clerk of the NH State House.
After the Clerk received the petition, she stated that she would have to re-read the rules to know how to proceed. My understanding of the rule is that ALL petitions for redress filed with the Clerk, must be read on the floor of the House before being filed. The next meeting of the State House is Wednesday the January 16; so I guess we shall see what happens next.

In the mean time, I will contact some of the State Rep’s who are friendly towards the cause of liberty to see if they will ensure the petition is read on the floor of the House.



Personally, I never signed the petition. Though, several current and former NH State Reps did sign it. The video is slightly confusing. To clarify, many of the people that signed this petition are not FSPers.
 
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There has been a lot of coverage of the Cynthia Chase controversy over the last few days.

Fosters (the Neocon paper) wrote 2 editorial negative of the FSP. A former NH State Rep. wrote a LTE, which Fosters published.

What Free Staters are and aren’t
Tuesday, January 15, 2013
http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130115/GJOPINION_0102/1301195 89/-1/FOSOPINION

The two anonymous editorials that Foster’s has printed in the last week regarding the Free State Project reflect a lack of understanding that I’ve found only in the most closed minded individuals, left or right, here in New Hampshire.

In early 2001, Yale doctoral student Jason Sorens brainstormed about what might happen theoretically if libertarians got together in one place. In the ensuing 10 years, the reality far surpassed anything young Sorens could have imagined, and he’s said so many times. Quoting his original essay as gospel or blueprint misses the boat entirely, nobody but the most strident opposition are even reading it. Certainly the 13,500+ current signers to move aren’t, nor the 1,000+ who have moved over the last 8 years. Professor Sorens wrote a “10 years on” sequel essay refuting much of what he wrote back then. Theory: 20,000 activists. Reality: Far less are needed, and more effective than he imagined.

I’ve served in the legislature, and worked with folks like Reps. Cynthia Chase and Bill O’Brien. I’ve argued strongly with both of them, and yet each voted the same way as I did on some issues. Free Staters aren’t Republicans in sheep clothing, nor are they simply Libertarians. There are those who have been elected as Democrats, and those who refute all political actions and instead work on local voluntary replacements like private charities to help the homeless. Few listen to Rush Limbaugh, and as least as many listen to NHPR. It’s not a monolithic group, it’s a herd of cats, diverse and opinionated on all sides, even those elected. I participated in multiple House floor fights, where Free Staters were on both sides.

Fosters’ missed the real reason for sending Chase flowers: her attack, as in martial arts, only served to increase the very movement she opposes. The flowers’ card showed there were no hard feelings to the woman who moved from Rhode Island in 2006 herself. Chase sits next to Rep. Laura Jones, a Free Stater, who is one of the sweetest and most principled people in the House. Chase could take a few political lessons from Jones. The roughly dozen Free Staters, in 2011-2012, and in 2013-2014, aren’t influential of 400 Reps because of co-option, but because they make sound arguments and understand economics and liberty. They advocate for personal responsibility, small government, local control, and freedom. These are hardly radical concepts, but sadly, too often forgotten. Ask the most vocal opponents of the FSP, and even they will begrudgingly admit that Free Staters have been very effective, above average legislators who work hard, do their homework, and argue persuasively.

The big swing in NH from right to left was caused by national politics, mostly top of the ticket GOTV. 2014 will see many dozens of fresh voices on both side of the ticket with Free Stater connections, and many will win. Statewide, I’ve met local people who fundamentally agree with the Live Free attitude, small-l libertarians, making up the backbone of why New Hampshire lives free. Flatlanders moving to NH over the years, turning it into Northern Mass, are finally being counteracted, and locals are cheering, wanting more Free Staters to move, and they will. Free Staters will continue to be elected, as both fiscally conservative Democrats and socially liberal Republicans, because our two-party voting system forces them into those ill-fitting molds, just as New Hampshire itself isn’t a Red or a Blue State.

We’re all Free Staters now.
Seth Cohn
Canterbury

Here is the youtube video of the flowers being given to Cynthia Chase to thank her for getting so many FSP signers. Well, she didn't show up for work on time but you get the idea.
 
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The disgraced former New Hampshire House Republican Majority Leader weighs in on the issue. Since he was slightly critical of the FSP (though very critical of Ms. Chase) some of the comments are critical of him. After all, he was the biggest scandal of 2012 in New Hampshire. Still, he is actually pro-liberty of most things. He's not a bad person, just young. I'm sure he learned from his big scandal.

Opinion: Is the Free State Project an Existential Threat to New Hampshire?
By D.J. Bettencourt
January 15, 2013
http://nhjournal.com/2013/01/15/opi...oject-an-existential-threat-to-new-hampshire/

First a disclaimer, I am a lifelong Granite Stater. I am not associated with the Free State Project (FSP) and philosophically I see a greater responsibility for government than many Free Staters. Additionally, I find the tactics employed by some Free Staters to prove their point to be unacceptable, especially their attitude toward law enforcement.

Yet despite being a microscopic minority, Representative Chase and others believe they must be suppressed. Foster’s Daily Democrat penned two high handed editorials last week claiming Free Staters were a threat to “ruin our way of life” and beseeched them to demonstrate maturity.

At this point it could be concluded that, based on the numbers, the FSP is a liberal boogeyman that isn’t a threat to anything political or cultural. But then there is the belief that everyone associated with the FSP is a radical, unreasonable provocateur that must be guarded against. New Hampshire Democrat National Committeewoman Kathy Sullivan believes that anyone affiliated with the FSP should disclose their connection if running for office. Ms. Sullivan did not say whether John Lynch, Paul Hodes, Maggie Hassan, and Terie Norelli should have disclosed that they were liberals from Pennsylvania, New York, Massachusetts, and New Jersey when they brought their tax and spend values with them to New Hampshire.

Unfortunately, few have considered how many of those one thousand Free Staters are simply hardworking taxpayers or small business owners who are exercising the same choice millions of Americans make each year to move to states they believe share their cultural and financial values. Not all Free Staters are deserving of Rep. Chase’s scorn and they should not be demonized.

The final claim is that Free Staters are unfit to hold public office. In reality, only a handful of Free Staters have been elected. Of those, a few have done some unsavory things that have been counterproductive. But then there are Free Staters Keith Murphy, Dan McGuire, Carol McGuire, and Mark Warden who have been valuable and constructive members of the New Hampshire House of Representatives. They prove why generalizations about the FSP are unfair. Politics will always have its share of unreasonable people, no political party or ideology has a monopoly on them.

In the end, WMUR Political Analyst James Pindell was right to wonder, “How is it we are still debating the Free State movement? This controversy says much more about the attitude of New Hampshire Democrats toward those they disagree with than it does about the Free State Project.

D.J. Bettencourt served as a State Representative in the New Hampshire House of Representatives from 2005 to 2012 and was the House Majority Leader for the 2011-2012 legislative term. He currently works as a special education academic advisor.

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There has been a lot of coverage of the Cynthia Chase controversy...


No MEDIA BLACKOUT to blame.

To me, the Free Staters who post here seem more intimidating than Cynthia Chase. I confess I have not read all of the media coverage, but do I correctly understand that she has NOT backpedaled into an apology for her ill-chosen, inflammatory words?
 
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Free Staters THANK Cynthia Chase. I had no part in this. But there you go. A massive banner, right in front of the NH State House. I am willing to mention that a NH state rep. did organize the event. It happened just before the 2nd Amendment rally.
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Ad hominem attacks is how we get ourselves into trouble. Always be respectful and polite. We want to be known as upstanding members of society.

Sorry,

Cynthia Chase: Misguided on her beliefs, a naive councilwoman.
 
It really warms my soul to see all of these positive pieces on people from the FSP. I have heard the horror stories, but it is nice to know there are many good people as well. If only we could keep that going and prove that those few people who are rude and obnoxious are the minority, we would all be better for it. All of you FSP people who are setting a good example, give yourself a pat on the back. I vow to do my part to always remain respectful even when the person presenting the opposing view is screaming at me and using ad hominems, no matter how hard it is.
 
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Since he was slightly critical of the FSP (though very critical of Ms. Chase) some of the comments are critical of him. After all, he was the biggest scandal of 2012 in New Hampshire. Still, he is actually pro-liberty of most things. He's not a bad person, just young. I'm sure he learned from his big scandal.

Opinion: Is the Free State Project an Existential Threat to New Hampshire?
By D.J. Bettencourt
January 15, 2013
http://nhjournal.com/2013/01/15/opi...oject-an-existential-threat-to-new-hampshire/

Don't only did people answer Mr. Bettencourt's criticism with dozens of comments, now there is a meme. Bettencourt and James Pindell do have a point that to suggest that the FSP controls NH is simply ludicrous because of the numbers. However, there are 13,000+ signed up to move to NH within 5 years of the FSP reaching 20,000. Sure, only 1,000+ have moved so far, but that's because we haven't even reached the 20,000 mark yet.

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Free Staters THANK Cynthia Chase. I had no part in this. But there you go. A massive banner, right in front of the NH State House. I am willing to mention that a NH state rep. did organize the event. It happened just before the 2nd Amendment rally.
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The video is up thanks to GraniteGrok.com, the top conservative blog in New Hampshire.

Published on Jan 21, 2013

At the Second Amendment rally at the NH State House in Concord, NH, the Free Staters decided to have a message for NH State Representative Cynthia Chase. Yes, THAT Cynthia Chase, a recent transplant from RI that is incensed that others are transplanting themselves to NH to do the same thing she is - participating in the political process (just on the opposite side of the aisle).

Short and sweet - the Free Staters think that Cynthia Chase has given them a whole lot of GREAT press!
 
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Did you sign the petition? The NH House will deal with the petition on Wednesday.


Petition calls for censure, impeachment of N.H. representative over Free State Project comment
By BEN LEUBSDORF Monitor staff
Monday, January 28, 2013
(Published in print: Tuesday, January 29, 2013)
http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/4071357-95/state-chase-free-petition


Petition calls for censure, impeachment of N.H. representative over Free State Project comment
By BEN LEUBSDORF Monitor staff
Monday, January 28, 2013
(Published in print: Tuesday, January 29, 2013)

A group of New Hampshire activists wants Rep. Cynthia Chase censured and impeached by her fellow state representatives.

Chase, a Keene Democrat, wrote a comment Dec. 21 on the liberal Blue Hampshire blog that angered many supporters of the Free State Project, which is trying to persuade 20,000 liberty activists to move en masse to New Hampshire.

“In the opinion of this Democrat, Free Staters are the single biggest threat the state is facing today,” Chase wrote. “There is, legally, nothing we can do to prevent them from moving here to take over the state, which is their openly stated goal. . . . What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave. One way is to pass measures that will restrict the ‘freedoms’ that they think they will find here. Another is to shine the bright light of publicity on who they are and why they are coming.”

A petition to the House was assembled and signed by 120 people, led by Darryl Perry, a Keene resident and Free State Project participant. It calls for Chase’s censure and impeachment over the comment, which the petition describes as showing “her intent to enact laws to interfere with protected rights” and “harm a specific group of people.”

The petition was received by the clerk’s office earlier this month, and a notice was printed in Friday’s House Calendar ahead of tomorrow’s full House session.

Chase declined to comment on the petition.
 
Since the petition to censure or impeach NH Rep. Cynthia Chase happens on Wednesday, there was some news among the socialists in NH today. Susan the Bruce posted a blog about it on Blue Hampshire.

Free State Project: Censorship is a Libertarian Value?
By susanthe on January 29, 2013
bluehampshire.com/2013/01/29/free-state-project-censorship-is-a-libertarian-value/

Here is part of it.
Rep. Chase, I hasten to add, has filed NO legislation. She merely expressed an opinion. Apparently the FSP can’t handle freedom of speech, when it is used to speak against them.
I don't know of Ms. Chase has filed legislation or not. I know she has sponsored several anti-liberty bills and voted for anti-liberty with most of her votes so far this year.

Censorship is an ugly, ugly word. One that has no place in a tolerant society.
Actually, censorship is often a good thing and an useful tool of a free society. Sure, government censorship is almost always bad. But censorship isn't Heck, Susan the Bruce deleted a bunch of comments on her blog post, talk about censorship...

That a group preaching freedom and liberty for themselves is willing to use censorship as a weapon against their critics shows them for what they are. Hypocrites.
Not only does Susan frequently censor her critics when they use her property in ways she doesn't like, she actually hypocritically calls out other for doing the same thing. Additionally, she wants to use aggressive terms like weapon for some reason.

And for the benefit of those of the FSP cult members who are trying to play semantics games...
Then she calls the FSP a cult.

Of course, Susan is just a blogger in NH. She has little influence and no power. However, a state rep. got involved with the name calling.

This is NH State Rep. Peter Sullivan of Manchester. He is 1 of 2 state reps to propose income tax bills.
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I'll give Rep. Sullivan the benefit of the doubt. I assume when he called free staters crackpots, thugs and hypocrites that he was only talking about the 1 FSPer that made the petition to censure Rep. Chase and the FSPers that signed the petition. While that was inappropriate and rude of him, it's not as bad as saying bad things about all free staters or even trying to eliminate rights for everything, like Rep. Chase is working hard to do.
 
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