Free Staters Not Welcome in New Hampshire

[Lucille]

It has been defunct for years. However, there is another project in ID. The website just went down due to lack of funds but the blog is still around. People want to build a castle in ID with 2 walls around it and gunners stationed on wall towers. The idea is to protect themselves in case Resident Evil, Walking Dead or Revolution become real. If you have some money, I think they are looking for a hundred million or so. http://iiicitadel.blogspot.com/2012/10/?m=1

I'm sorry to hear that. That has real potential too, considering those 3 states could band together and secede far more easily than one alone.

The Citadel sounds pretty awesome!

 

[cheapseats]

...We will never be a majority or even large minority in any county...

Then you will always be ON GUARD. You will always be AT RISK. You will always be OUTNUMBERED. Have fun protecting the castle!

There's a lotta conceptual real estate between constant vigilance against bad possibilities, and continuous bracing against imminent threats.

...and there is no need to be...

There is no need for mass-marketing Stepford homogeneity, but you sound kinda like you WANT to be a Tiny Few.

Anyway, counties in New England have very little power compared to counties in the West and South. VT partly privatized sheriffs. MA got rid of several counties. Some Republicans are looking into ending counties in NH to save money. Counties are a drain on freedom (with their rules and taxes).

Towns are where it is at. Towns don't have a mayor or leader. The people of the town vote on the budget line by line. However, depending on the town, the people usually vote the way the volunteer selectmen or budget committee members suggest. Or you could just pass a town spending cap and a town tax cap. The key is to get liberty people to run for state rep., selectmen and budget committee. State reps. vote on the of county budget by themselves. For example, in 2 of the 3 largest counties last year, state reps voted to not increase spending, and free staters only made up less than 10% of the reps in those counties.

Stay the course?

The OFFICE SEEKING route of political activism in New Hampshire IS or is NOT defined and constrained by the notorious Process within which people like RAND endeavor to "play the game"?

We have already proven that a tiny minority can help increase freedom.

Sooo, do you suggest that the necessary evil of "minarchist" government should be dispatched by a Tiny Few, or do you suggest that the Tiny Few shall steward New Hampshire into seceded Anarchy?

With 20,000 activist and a few years, NH could be twice as free as any other state.

Been hearing that since I joined Liberty Forest.

 

[dannno]

This bullshit, coming from a carpetbagger?? Who the hell is paying this woman to try and defeat the FSP?

 

[NH4RonPaul]

She's a Manly Man

Check this out..

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=318432448262165&set=o.2204983906&type=1&theater

 

[Tpoints]

Check this out..

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=318432448262165&set=o.2204983906&type=1&theater

that's a woman?

 

[NH4RonPaul]

We have a lot of carpet baggers like this who come from high tax states like NY, Conn, RI, and then get elected and try to raise taxes. Some of them are retired lawyers... the new governor is one of those types. So they have a bloody nerve to complain that some come here to lower taxes and reduce government.

http://www.cabinet.com/bedfordjourn...rs-tax-summit-is-an-out-of-state-charade.html

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

.Democratic State Rep. Cynthia Chase calls them "the single biggest threat the state is facing today.

Sounds like FSP is the single biggest threat to Democrat State Rep Cynthia Chase quest for a permanent job and advancement in politics.

Keeping stolen taxpayer money away from Cynthia Chase, then she can't buy votes in her quest to being that "Limousine Liberal" for life.

BTW, her background check/record:

http://votesmart.org/candidate/122335/cynthia-chase

http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/122335/cynthia-chase

 

[Anti Federalist]

Fat fucking carpet bagging dyke, fuck you, I've been here for years before your homely ass showed up.

You have no idea what you are starting.

I'll say again, to you or anybody else, enough talk, you want 'em, whatever freedom it might be, come and take 'em.

Open fire or shut your fucking pie hole.

That said, brilliant plan, worked at the federal level like a charm.

"They hate us and attacked us on 9/11 because of our freedoms."

"Hey, let's take away freedom to stop that."

 

[Tpoints]

Fat fucking carpet bagging dyke, fuck you, I've been here for years before your homely ass showed up.

You have no idea what you are starting.

I'll say again, to you or anybody else, enough talk, you want 'em, whatever freedom it might be, come and take 'em.

Open fire or shut your fucking pie hole.

That said, brilliant plan, worked at the federal level like a charm.

"They hate us and attacked us on 9/11 because of our freedoms."

"Hey, let's take away freedom to stop that."

+rep for angry homophobic rant

 

[Anti Federalist]

So, the new government in Concord has declared war huh?

I suspect that this broad may end being right, the next two years will probably spell the end for NH being any different than any other northeastern socialist state.

 

[Tpoints]

So, the new government in Concord has declared war huh?

I suspect that this broad may end being right, the next two years will probably spell the end for Nh being any different than any other northeastern socialist state.

she's just saying what every politician thinks, but doesn't care enough to say.

 

[Anti Federalist]

+rep for angry homophobic rant

I have a right to be "homophobic" in this case, this ugly dyke has just declared war on my liberty.

Goddamn right I'm "scared" and angry at that.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Sounds like FSP is the single biggest threat to Democrat State Rep Cynthia Chase quest for a permanent job and advancement in politics.

Keeping stolen taxpayer money away from Cynthia Chase, then she can't buy votes in her quest to being that "Limousine Liberal" for life.

She is already retired and collecting government checks. I think she just really hates freedom with a passion. She is willing to spend hours a day for no money promoting socialism and communism. Kinda like how some of do that, but with the goal to make the world a better place.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Check this out..

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=318432448262165&set=o.2204983906&type=1&theater

"Politics is show business for ugly people" - Gerald Celente

 

[TheTexan]

I strongly recommend retrenching to takeover/control/command/own one county

I agree. A small town with a liberty majority could accomplish a great deal I think. People will often say that all the laws are at the county and state and federal level etc... but nullification is a powerful thing.

I also think such a town would also encourage much faster growth than what the FSP is seeing now.

WITHOUT USING ANY OF THOSE ICKY WORDS.

Shrug. Why not? It is what it is. No reason to be coy about it. Let's take over a town.

The Free State Project, as Keith describes it, as an activist minority, unfortunately will not achieve freedom by itself. An activist minority can only accomplish so much. They will get a few small victories, but if they ever get close to achieving significant freedom, the larger majority of people who hate freedom will push back on it and counter these efforts with a greater force.

I believe a Free Town Project, inside the scope of the Free State Project, would complement and contribute to the FSP in many ways. If such a project is already underway, Keith, please let me know..

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

She is already retired and collecting government checks.

So is she going to be double dipping government retirement check and a paycheck currently from NH house?

I like this site for info:

http://www.livefreeordiealliance.org/ElectionCentral/tabid/1290/Default.aspx

 

[Tod]

Is there a way I can become eligible to vote there while still living in Ohio?

 

[cheapseats]

...takeover/control/command/own one county, WITHOUT USING ANY OF THOSE ICKY WORDS.

Shrug. Why not? It is what it is. No reason to be coy about it.

Why did RAND endorse ROMNEY?

You are an Anarchist, are you not?

In the GAME of electoral politics, which is much confounded by how much citizens DON'T think, PERCEPTION matters even more than usual.

Let's take over a town.

Purposefully, determinedly, energetically, become a Majority...IF electoral politics are part of the plan. Electoral politics are NOT part of the plan of every Intentional Community.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Grafton is perhaps the freest town in the developed world. It also has the highest concentration of fspers. That isn't a coincidence. There is no target or plan to takeover or anything like that. There are around 50 fspers there. With 50 more liberty voters, the liberty voters could win most elections there ( they win maybe a third of the elections now). With 100 more, they could win all of the elections and largely reduce the size and scoop of the government. They have a website or 2 and hold a couple annual events. If you want real freedom now, move to Grafton.

I don't think understand how NH works. There are 400 reps who control a great deal of the government. The senate can stop them from doing something bad or good but the house is the most important body in NH. So we just need 500 liberty people to run every year for the swing districts (250 for the GOP nominations and 250 for the Dems) and another 150 to run in the no swing districts. That is 650 needed to run for state rep every year. That would likely mean that 2/3s or so would be pro- liberty.

On the town level 2-4 people to run for the most important committees each year in the towns that aren't lost causes. That's it. If liberty people want tremendous power in a town, they just need to team up with the others locals in a town and form a liberty voting majority on town budget day. For example, a town with 2000 people might have 150 anti- liberty voters and 100 liberty voters show up on town voting days. So the town needs 51 new liberty voters. Of course, if the liberty voters try to create too much liberty at 1 time, it might bring out another dozen anti- liberty voters. So maybe the town could really use 75 new liberty voters for a total of 287 voters out of a population of 2000. Encouraging 1000 liberty lovers to move to a single low population town would be insane and it isn't even practical.

The FTP used to exist and Grafton was the selected town. It was disbanded after people realized how much the idea upset the locals.
Never tell someone you have a plan to taken them over, especially a hill hick with several rifles.

Of course, the FSP move hasn't even been triggered. The idea is to get 20,000 signers, then ask people to move. That way, people will know they will not be doing it alone. A bad analogy would be how some people are more likely to exercise if they exercise for a goal Like to run a half marathon, participate in an aerobics class or lift weights if they have a partner. Once the 20,000 is reached, people are asked to move to NH within 5 years. I assume another 100+ liberty voters will move to Grafton.

 

[AGRP]

Will her comments be picked up by the major NH newspapers? National newspapers? Doubt it. Just imagine if she singled out another minority group. "_________ are unwelcome here! We need to create laws that make them unwelcome or leave!"