Free Staters Not Welcome in New Hampshire

[green73]

Tom Woods writes:


The great Free State Project (FSP) involves having pro-freedom individuals and families move to the Granite State in order to create an environment for the realization of "liberty in our lifetime," as the FSP puts it. Democratic State Rep. Cynthia Chase calls them "the single biggest threat the state is facing today."Whatever can be done about these people who favor nonviolence in interpersonal relations?

Her answer: "There is, legally, nothing we can do to prevent them from moving here to take over the state, which is their openly stated goal. In this country you can move anywhere you choose and they have that same right. What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave. One way is to pass measures that will restrict the 'freedoms' that they think they will find here.... Cheshire County is a welcoming community but not to those whose stated goal is to move in enough ideologues to steal our state, and our way of life."

Let's translate this from Politico into English: "Unfortunately, people have the right to move anywhere they like in this country. There's nothing we can do about that. But if we make New Hampshire a less desirable place to live, with fewer freedoms, maybe people seeking freedom will be less likely to settle here. We have a way of life here, you see. Our way of life consists of sticking a gun in people's ribs and taking their things, in order that those things may be distributed to powerful constituencies from whom we public servants expect to win votes. This is one of our sacred traditions. If you are philosophically opposed to the use of violence in the service of political ends, you are an ideologue. Ideologues are not welcome here. We are welcoming to everyone who delights in having a gun shoved in his ribs."

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http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/12/free-staters-not-welcome-in-new.html

More at
http://www.dailypaul.com/267569/free-state-project-is-winning

 

[Acala]

"What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave. One way is to pass measures that will restrict the 'freedoms' that they think they will find here"

My folks used to have a saying for this kind of behavior: "Biting off your nose to spite your face."

 

[sluggo]

Tom Woods writes:


The great Free State Project (FSP) involves having pro-freedom individuals and families move to the Granite State in order to create an environment for the realization of "liberty in our lifetime," as the FSP puts it. Democratic State Rep. Cynthia Chase calls them "the single biggest threat the state is facing today."

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This makes me want to move there even more.​

 

[belian78]

Taking away the freedoms that all residents of NH enjoy, to discourage those that like freedom from moving there. Man, I just can't argue with that logic right there. This will have about the same effect that Obama seems to have on gun/ammo sales.

 

[Lucille]

New Hampshire Democrat: 'Free Staters are the single biggest threat the state is facing today'
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/27/new-hampshire-democrat-free-staters-are

At the progressive site Blue Hampshire last week, a diarist named The Money Magician warned that the 20,000 signature moment (at which point, in theory, those who signed up for the pledge to move to the Live Free or Die State would make good on their promise) could come as early as 2015. "I wish there was some way to repel these people," the Magician lamented.
[...]

Here in Keene we had a couple show up on Central Square to take part in our weekly Saturday morning peace demonstration. In the course of the conversation they allowed that they were Free Staters considering moving to Keene. The folks on the Square told them in no uncertain terms not to do that because Free Staters are not welcome here. Cheshire County is a welcoming community but not to those whose stated goal is to move in enough ideologues to steal our state, and our way of life.

Charming! Commenter Lucy Edwards, who appears to be a recently failed Democratic candidate for the New Hampshire House of Representatives, replied with even more tolerance:

A friend had a young man from Texas contact her to rent a room she had available. She got in touch with me to ask what to do when he told her he was coming to NH as part of the Free State Project. Here's what she decided to tell him: "I told him that I already rented the room, and that I didn't appreciate him coming here to change our state government, it was an insult to me. That if he wanted to make change to start self examining his own life in a mindful way and stay in Texas to make the changes he wants not come here. And not contact me again."

In what nefarious ways are the Free Staters changing New Hampshire? Getting marijuana growers out of jail by using the rare tactic of jury nullification, among other things.

more at the link

 

[youngbuck]

I'm quite positive it's the other way around - the likes of Cynthia Chase are the biggest threat to the state, and to any state.

 

[cheapseats]

Are Free Staters concentrated in one county, or scattered around the State?

 

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

If you replace Free staters with any minority group and any group of people in general this would be front page news. The nerve of this woman.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I'm quite positive it's the other way around - the likes of Cynthia Chase are the biggest threat to the state, and to any state.

She moved here from RI and broke an election law to help her get elected. She was in something like an 8 way primary for 7 spots. She handed out flyers at the polling location which didn't mention who paid for them. Half way through the day, a liberty candidate found out and called the state government. She was forced to stop breaking the law but never got in trouble.

 

[specsaregood]

This makes me want to move there even more.

If the opportunity to move again ever arises the FSP is the only reason NH is on my list of considerations.

 

[cheapseats]

If you replace Free staters with any minority group and any group of people in general this would be front page news.

For all the good it does them or us or Liberty or Justice, PALESTINIANS agree with you.

The nerve of this woman.

Jeepers, how d'ya reckon the Gutless & Gunless became so BOLD?

 

[evilfunnystuff]

Her answer: "There is, legally, nothing we can do to prevent them from moving here to take over the state, which is their openly stated goal. In this country you can move anywhere you choose and they have that same right. What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave. One way is to pass measures that will restrict the 'freedoms' that they think they will find here....*[/QUOTE

Careful your agenda is showing.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Are Free Staters concentrated in one county, or scattered around the State?

Scattered across mostly southern NH, just like the population of NH. The largest per capita concentration is in Grafton. No surprise that it might be the freest town in the industrialized world. The largest in numbers is Manchester. That is no surprise as it is the largest city. Free staters have won 6 elections for state rep. in Manchester (4 Democratic and 2 Republican). Currently, 2 Democratic reps and 1 Republican rep. live in Manchester. The entire Keene area only has 50 or so free staters but it is the liberty media capital of the world.

 

[cheapseats]

Scattered across mostly southern NH, just like the population of NH. The largest per capita concentration is in Grafton. No surprise that it might be the freest town in the industrialized world. The largest in numbers is Manchester. That is no surprise as it is the largest city. Free staters have won 6 elections for state rep. in Manchester (4 Democratic and 2 Republican). Currently, 2 Democratic reps and 1 Republican rep. live in Manchester. The entire Keene area only has 50 or so free staters but it is the liberty media capital of the world.

Free Staters, YOU in particular, are free and easy about telling OTHERS to uproot.

I strongly recommend retrenching to takeover/control/command/own one county, WITHOUT USING ANY OF THOSE ICKY WORDS.

With an eye on EXPANSION, are two of your best-bet counties contiguous?

 

[Lucille]

Is the Free West Alliance defunct?

 

[KingNothing]

So, whether people hate you for your freedom or love you for your freedom, you must destroy your freedom.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Free Staters, YOU in particular, are free and easy about telling OTHERS to uproot.

I strongly recommend retrenching to takeover/control/command/own one county, WITHOUT USING ANY OF THOSE ICKY WORDS.

I agree in not using any of those words but take it further in not wanting to do that. We learned that lesson before Ron Paul ran for the GOP nomination in 2008 and I keep sharing it with people. We will never be a majority or even large minority in any county and there is no need to be. We have already proven that a tiny minority can help increase freedom. Anyway, counties in New England have very little power compared to counties in the West and South. VT partly privatized sheriffs. MA got rid of several counties. Some Republicans are looking into ending counties in NH to save money. Counties are a drain on freedom (with their rules and taxes).

Towns are where it is at. Towns don't have a mayor or leader. The people of the town vote on the budget line by line. However, depending on the town, the people usually vote the way the volunteer selectmen or budget committee members suggest. Or you could just pass a town spending cap and a town tax cap. The key is to get liberty people to run for state rep., selectmen and budget committee. State reps. vote on the of county budget by themselves. For example, in 2 of the 3 largest counties last year, state reps voted to not increase spending, and free staters only made up less than 10% of the reps in those counties.

With 20,000 activist and a few years, NH could be twice as free as any other state.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Is the Free West Alliance defunct?

It has been defunct for years. None of the offshoots from the FSP are still around except FSW but no one involved in that is political. I think some people were but they either gave up on politics (like Michael Dean) or left the state. Well, that isn't entirely true, Michael did show up at his county caucus to support Ron Paul so he did 1 thing political recently.

However, there is another project in ID. The website just went down due to lack of funds but the blog is still around. People want to build a castle in ID with 2 walls around it and gunners stationed on wall towers. The idea is to protect themselves in case Resident Evil, Walking Dead or Revolution become real. If you have some money, I think they are looking for a hundred million or so. http://iiicitadel.blogspot.com/2012/10/?m=1

 

[Tpoints]

did she say which measures she will pass or what specific freedoms she'll take away to make them unwelcome?

 

[tony m]

I agree in not using any of those words but take it further in not wanting to do that. We learned that lesson before Ron Paul ran for the GOP nomination in 2008 and I keep sharing it with people. We will never be a majority or even large minority in any county and there is no need to be. We have already proven that a tiny minority can help increase freedom. Anyway, counties in New England have very little power compared to counties in the West and South. VT partly privatized sheriffs. MA got rid of several counties. Some Republicans are looking into ending counties in NH to save money. Counties are a drain on freedom (with their rules and taxes).

Towns are where it is at. Towns don't have a mayor or leader. The people of the town vote on the budget line by line. However, depending on the town, the people usually vote the way the volunteer selectmen or budget committee members suggest. Or you could just pass a town spending cap and a town tax cap. The key is to get liberty people to run for state rep., selectmen and budget committee. State reps. vote on the of county budget by themselves. For example, in 2 of the 3 largest counties last year, state reps voted to not increase spending, and free staters only made up less than 10% of the reps in those counties.

With 20,000 activist and a few years, NH could be twice as free as any other state.

Informative post. Good job on this.