Free Republic is catching the Ron Paul Revolution!

[Spideynw]

Aaron Russo produced it. Are you thinking about the right film or are you joking?

Yes I am talking about the right film and I am not joking. It is a completely misleading film, and the only reason I can think that Russo produced it was to convince enough people to stop paying taxes that the government would not be able to prosecute everyone who does not.

Here are a couple of references if you like about the arguments made in the movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_statutory_arguments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_constitutional_arguments

 

[Bob Spruill]

I was banned at FR several years ago. I think it was because I was too libertarian for them. But it may have been because I saw what asshat scum many of them are, and said so. LOL, I really don't remember.

I do remember that I respected many there when I left.

I lurk now sometimes. EEE stands out, and several others.

But, mostly now, there are very few left that are worthy of any respect.

That board is dead. The life has been controlled out of it.

Same as America, if we don't take it back.

 

[FreedomLover]

I was banned at FR several years ago. I think it was because I was too libertarian for them. But it may have been because I saw what asshat scum many of them are, and said so. LOL, I really don't remember.

I do remember that I respected many there when I left.

I lurk now sometimes. EEE stands out, and several others.

But, mostly now, there are very few left that are worthy of any respect.

That board is dead. The life has been controlled out of it.

Same as America, if we don't take it back.

Yep, I used to post on FR as well when there was still a sense of consistency and altruism in that place. Now it's filled with caricatures and old hard-headed hacks.

Of course, primary season brings out the worst in that bunch.

 

[Bob Spruill]

under President Kucinich, we'd all see the dancing rainbows.

I have nothing against dancing rainbows. I'm actually somewhat in favor of them.

But Walter Williams is at the top of my list for VP. Mr Clint would be interesting and I don't rule him out. Both good men.

 

[ConstitutionGal]

The last few years, FreeRepublic has been geared towards Jim Robinson's personal political views and all dissenting views are being banned. I had been posting there since 1999 and got banned a couple of months ago for supporting Ron Paul. Once JimRob registered FredRepublic.com (it's still redirecting to FreeRepublic.com), I think many saw the writing on the wall. The new mods over there are obvious Fred Thompson supporters and anything that disparages him or supports Ron Paul will get you banned with no warning and no means to challenge said banning.

Funny/Odd thing is, just a few years ago Dr. Paul was held up as model freedom lover but, now that so many war-mongers have taken over, Dr. Paul is now a pariah. Just goes to show how fear can be such an effective tool for controlling the populace.

 

[theodorelogan]

For longer range trends

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

I've noticed that the more radical and hate filled people hide behind words like "free republic." These people are pathetic.

 

[ksuguy]

I don't know how people stand the format there. Can't they get some decent forum software?

 

[BeFranklin]

FR has become way too extremist. I left that place a while ago. Basically, you have to be Christianist and war-mongering. The silly other stuff like Constitutional rights, national sovereignty, free trade, immigration, government size and spending is all negotiable, but if you're not Christianist+war-happy, prepare to get the crap flamed out of you.

No, you can't be a Christian on Free Republic either. I got banned on free republic for posting protestant/reform christian stuff during the pedophile priest scandal as did a bunch of other christians.

This is probably of interest to understand the new right / neo-con position, whose ideas on religion are at least as distorted as those on politics. There is a decidedly pro-roman catholic pope bent there, which if you didn't approve of, you had to at least ignore, and it ties in well with authoritarian big government types ala the middle ages when kings were crowned by popes and the 'divine rights of governments' err I mean kings existed.

Before that, I was banned for being a libertarian. Free Republic started out against libertarians right from the start, and has always been against what Ron Paul stood for.

We should start a thread, banned in a "free" republic...

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FYI: Basically, the current administration turned a blind eye to the cover up of the roman catholic church in the pedophile scandal, ignoring the most massive rapes of little boys in history FOR POLITICAL REASONS. The roman catholic church concealed priests and evidence, even using its diplomatic immunity to cover it up (which a religious institution shouldn't have). Bush if I remember right gave the pope a medal during the same time period.

 

[wildflower]

Disheartening? Try inspiring - FR (and KOS, the action/reaction alter-ego) demonstrate beautifully why this revolution is unstoppable. In a strange way, FR is also part of what made it possible, if you consider the period from inception to the (almost) inevitable takeover (money talks, or at least it did then).

The one-sided battle of whits by the people like you is quite something to behold...

That was a poor choice of wording on my part. Because to be honest, what actually happened was I got mad. And it made me want to support RP even more. So, by "disheartening" what I meant was sad, and disgusting.

btw - I didn't read this whole thread, do you post there too? (do we know eachother?)

 

[Real_CaGeD]

Red State seems like a ghost town to me.

I think Borat at the Rodeo said it best.

 

[Proemio]

That was a poor choice of wording on my part. Because to be honest, what actually happened was I got mad. And it made me want to support RP even more. So, by "disheartening" what I meant was sad, and disgusting.

btw - I didn't read this whole thread, do you post there too? (do we know eachother?)

No, and probably not.

I read FR since it's inception, though. It WAS the best political forum bar none for a time. I visit less since the 'veronicas' took over, but at times it's still the place to watch. Like now, when they focus-group and market test the latest, and greatest smear operation on Ron Paul.

Example: The thread were they set up a phony blog, started a 'poll', promoted it here and at Stormfront (if at all), started a thread after getting 8 votes, were found out after about four "shocked & outraged" posts, killed the one-purpose-blog (server not found) and pretended it never happened for the next 500 posts. A hoot - who needs comedy central...

Don't get mad - enjoy the ride while doing a great and important job...

 

[Ibtz]

No, you can't be a Christian on Free Republic either. I got banned on free republic for posting protestant/reform christian stuff during the pedophile priest scandal as did a bunch of other christians.

This is probably of interest to understand the new right / neo-con position, whose ideas on religion are at least as distorted as those on politics. There is a decidedly pro-roman catholic pope bent there, which if you didn't approve of, you had to at least ignore, and it ties in well with authoritarian big government types ala the middle ages when kings were crowned by popes and the 'divine rights of governments' err I mean kings existed.

Before that, I was banned for being a libertarian. Free Republic started out against libertarians right from the start, and has always been against what Ron Paul stood for.

We should start a thread, banned in a "free" republic...

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FYI: Basically, the current administration turned a blind eye to the cover up of the roman catholic church in the pedophile scandal, ignoring the most massive rapes of little boys in history FOR POLITICAL REASONS. The roman catholic church concealed priests and evidence, even using its diplomatic immunity to cover it up (which a religious institution shouldn't have). Bush if I remember right gave the pope a medal during the same time period.

Without starting a religious argument it can easily be said that there can be quite an anti-Catholic slant on that board as well. There are considerably more Evangelical types on the board than there are Catholics. Oh, and Catholics are Christian, btw.

 

[Eric21ND]

how many of us are on this forum? it'd be interesting to see how fast it's growing. do all the meetup groups know about it?

It's weird, when I mentioned this forum NOBODY knew about it. I just assumed they all did or at least the meetup organizer would...nope! It was really quite shocking. I told them to come here several times, but I don't know if they ever did. I did send out an email to several local meetup groups praising this forum.

 

[Eric21ND]

I don't know how people stand the format there. Can't they get some decent forum software?

Reading that thread from FR the format on there is quite hideous...might be the atari 2600 of web forums. Also is doesn't look to be a very inviting place for an interchange of thoughts and ideas. The sheer volume of group-think and attack-dog mentality on there seems to operate at the level of an echo chamber. Scary place.

Anyway, welcome to ronpaulforums everyone from FR...nobody gets banned here, although you might get blimped!

 

[slantedview]

Not really, since it is all false.

Yes I am talking about the right film and I am not joking. It is a completely misleading film

The film cites numerous experts including the former commissioner of the IRS, ALL OF THEM coming to the conclusion that there is no law madating Federal taxes, or that the Supreme court declared more than once that 16th amendment gives no new power of taxation to the government.

So what is false there? The Supreme court? The numerous experts interviewed in the film? The former commissioner himself? Or is what you are saying just false?

 

[camped69]

Banning people that don't fit your agenda never works. It's doesn't surprise me though. It is apparent from the reaction that Paul has received that they are afraid of him. I've been lurking here for a while and I am amazed at the controversy, love and anger that Paul generates. Anger is fear based and there are many people that have alot to fearful of.

The way I see it there is an ideological battle taking place in the US and the world for that matter. A paradigm shift if you will, is imminent. People are waking up to the crimes being committed against humanity and the freedoms that have been either completely taken and/or are eroding very fast. It all comes under the guise of safety. The amount of treason against this Republic is astounding.

We the American people seem to be the last bastion of freedom in this world. I believe if the US falls completely to tyranny that the rest of the world will be completely engulfed in short order. There is an obvious attempt to strip "We the People" of our inherent rights and freedom. Many people flat out refuse to see it and many more although they know that it isn't right are afraid or hopeless to do anything about it. I feel the problem is much worse than we think. The bravery and honesty that Ron Paul has shown is very refreshing. I have yet to meet a person who I agreed with 100% but Paul has my support on close to 80% of the issues.

I have been a patriot since birth and I can say without doubt, that I will defend this country against all enemies, "foreign and domestic".

@ TooConservative, great post. thanks

 

[TooConservative]

freerepublic should be DOSed for the good of the nation

No, the market can decide. The solution to bad speech is much more speech.

This kind of thing is generally self-correcting over time. Our traditions of free speech show that it is more powerful than those groups which seek to limit speech for their own agenda. Let them say what they will and over time they will marginalize themselves. In fact, this has already happened there. Their great strength was when all topics could be discussed freely and you only got banned for advocating socialism or racism or violent revolution and such.

And here at this forum we should not advocate DOS attacks on any forum. Silencing the opposition is a police state tactic.

 

[TooConservative]

Reading that thread from FR the format on there is quite hideous...might be the atari 2600 of web forums.

Actually, it has a few software features that other forums lack. They have pinglists so that you can directly address and reply to a single poster or address multiple posters (in the hundreds) to flag them to a thread.

So you can assemble a pinglist for Catholics or Kosovo or nannystaters or Ron Paul or whatever. And anyone who joined that list will see all those pings listed on their My Comments page. The My Comments page lists all posts a FReeper has made and all the replies to it and all pings that their FRiends have made to them, including all the messages and threads that they have been flagged to from a pinglist they have joined.

No, it looks like your dad's BBS forum. But despite the lack of Web 2.0 AJAXy features, it still offers many features that the more modern PHPBB type forums like this one simply do not offer. Here, you do get Quick Posting and a mini-editor so you don't have to write true HTML (too bad) and you can choose color themes and sigs and avatars and other bandwidth-gobbling dreck. But those are issues of style, not substance. The plain FR style forces members to focus on substance, not graphics and avatars and anigifs and other inconsequentials.

Many FReepers would leave FR if other forums offered such features. But no one else does. Many FReepers live on their My Comments page because it is a list of all their interest topics (like pinglists) and all of their comments and replies in order so they can keep a running debate going. The Sidebar feature is also pretty good for Breaking News, Editorials, Extended News. Some other forums like Liberty Post do offer the Sidebar feature but don't have a true My Comments page.

The My Comments and pinglists are the really addictive FR feature. It takes a pretty considerable amount of database server capacity to offer these features under heavy load when traffic spikes the site. That is one of FR's real features that are hard to match. I suspect that FR's software scales better than the forum software here at RonPaulForums.com.

Just because FR's so plain-texty doesn't mean it lacks features. In some features, it is still ahead of almost every forum software on the internet. Sure, they banned me for supporting RP but I won't deny that they do have their attractions which is how they have held onto so many people over so many years. They like the format and they like the forum features.

FR would lose very few of its FReepers if it weren't so heavy-handed in the speech allowed there. For instance, all the folks they lost over open-borders vs. closed-borders and amnesty vs. enforcement. Or more currently, supporting Ron Paul or Romney which is close to a bannable offense. FR's features keep them coming back even if some of these features do have their own downsides as well and require more moderation of the forum.

 

[BeFranklin]

Without starting a religious argument it can easily be said that there can be quite an anti-Catholic slant on that board as well. There are considerably more Evangelical types on the board than there are Catholics. Oh, and Catholics are Christian, btw.

Freerepublic is completely and wholeheartedly responsible for its part in the pedophile scandal coverup when the conservative movement was pigeonholed in it, and the Bush administration was and is definitely involved in that coverup. Freerepublic suppressed that story when it was the only effective avenue of communication at that point.

I disagree with your statement that catholics aren't the most numerous people on that board, or that many protestants weren't kicked off the board after being derided in the same way other groups have been.

In a similar way, Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch is a Roman Catholic that is also a papal knight, and most of the commentators that have been identified as neo-cons are Roman Catholics. Fox News is more important to neo-cons then free republic, which really relies on that network. Does that mean I think individuals who are catholic are necessarily bad? No, but I think the religion stinks. Its the same way that the crusades started in the dark ages (which looks exactly like what we are doing now), and it apparently breeds neo-cons. Likewise, the European Union had its start in Rome, so the 'divine rights of kings' continues on into the globalist present, with Rome's support.