Free At Last! The next money bomb is ready!!

[Dieseler]

Ladies and Gentlemen. It looks like the next great money bomb has just been launched.

I think the numbers I posted from the site show that the overwhelming majority of people visiting the site are not pledging.
This is not good.
Its a bad idea.
Congratulations for being hard headed asses and polarizing an otherwise great campaign that is hopefully still pulling people together from all walks of life.

 

[RP-Republican]

If you have money for another money bomb spend it here now http://www.operationnh.com/ we only have 14 days till the Iowa caucus.

 

[Kingfisher]

Like I said before: Anyone but King!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Taco John:

This has absolutely nothing to do with believing that every individual should be treated equal. Of course we should be. My concern is only due to MLK's communism. He was not quite the same man that is portrayed in the media and through revisionist history. I have said several times, that I would support something else that we can think of that gets the point across, that some are trying to do with this idea of having a fundraiser on MLK's birthday. Can you think of some other way to do the same thing? Some other holiday or activity we can celebrate?

 

[cicatrice]

I have a hard time believing what I'm seeing with this campaign and I'm getting greatly disallusioned by it all. We're ok to associate ourselves with the terrorist Guy Fawkes, but when people want to associate the campaign with the same message of freedom and individualism that Dr. Martin Luther King preached in his "I have a dream" speech, we get squelched.

The Daily Paul ripped the post on this down. They didn't do that for the Guy Fawkes effort.

This is making me sick. As a mixed race individual, I find this treatment abhorrent. The theme of this campaign has always been that the market would decide the efficacy of ideas through the transaction of participation. The censorship of this effort is very troublesome to me.

Again, most people do not even know who Guy Fawkes was. And he was connected through a movie that carried the theme of revolution. Everyone is familiar MLK hence they carry with them opinions and emotional responses. The responses can be positive, sure, but they could be equally negative. I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp.

 

[Electric Church]

Let's be clear about something here, shall we, E.C. You are a Canadian, so I'm not too sure what difference your opinion has here.

As a citizen of the world my opinions are just as valid as anyone else’s. With a statement like that again you show your true colors. True Ron Paul supporters are embraced by the world and true Ron Paul supporters embrace the world.

 

[Revolution9]

Let's be clear about something here, shall we, E.C. You are a Canadian, so I'm not too sure what difference your opinion has here.

You do realize that Revolution9 agrees with me on this, don't you? Perhaps you should go look, before you shove your foot down your throat any further.

I am not in agreement with either side because neither are playing with the full truth..just sloganeering. I did verify he was schooled and funded along with much of his inner cadre by the US Communist Party being run out of Moscow.. That is historical fact.. Not a knee jerk emotional opinion based on labels. I understand why they, the Communists, were considered dangerous as the deaths on 10's of millions of native Russians under their rule were known of along with concentration camps and demolitions o Christian Churches. I understand why conservative Americans were opposed to this system as it was anathema to everything America stood for as ideals of freedom and personal liberty.

Furthermore..he made some fine and rousing speeches in the name of liberty and freedom. Due to his oratory fire these are to e well noted by history. The part that irks me about the demonstration i his wake was that they would roll into towns, get the locals and the racists riled up and looking for a fist fight.. When aggressive moves were pulled this was now reason to bring in law enforcement. Unfortunately this is the same tactics used by so-called opponents such as the KKK, who appear to have the same masters as the NAACP did. Albert Pike was a KKK Grand Dragon and he was also the top Mason at the time.

King, from what Harry Belafonte says, got assassinated because he realized he was being a dupe and was going to blow the whistle. I believe that with maturity and ponderance of his own words he came into realizing the faith he spoke of as ensconced within and not just drapings of an agenda. It was at that point he was dangerous to his former mentors. He became a free man and was killed for it.

Civil rights are the licensure of privelege to exercise your God given rights as provided under the Bill Of Rights and frankly allows the government to do what the tenth amendment said they cannot, which was all the things not included in the first nine amendments.

I remain conflicted about this man depending on which part of his life I review. i cannot say this about Ron Paul. His life has been exemplary.

Best Regards
Randy

 

[Dieseler]

I smell a Rat. Ban me, abuse me whatever. This money bomb is not logical if you are trying to gain votes for Dr. Paul.

The money you gain will be crap compared to the people you are going to turn off with this.

 

[Electric Church]

I repeat...

Well since you're into repeatin stuff I might as well do the same thing :

I've seen you here from the beginning. I didn't trust you then and I even more so don't trust you now. After several months of observing your posts one can almost solely rely on your opposition to a new initiative as a trumpet call to rally the troops in support of that initiative.

Folks ...this money bomb is a great idea. I myself being of African American origin feel it's a unifying gesture and it shows that Ron Paul supporters are reaching out to all Americans by honoring one of their great fallen heroes in this manner.

I’m in total support of this money bomb. The mainstream establishment hates these money bombs because they work so let’s just keep moneybombin the crap out of them until they finally have to submit. In my opinion this money bomb initiative is at parity with the two previous initiatives.

Get behind it and let’s unite America.

 

[Kingfisher]

Again, most people do not even know who Guy Fawkes was. And he was connected through a movie that carried the theme of revolution. Everyone is familiar MLK hence they carry with them opinions and emotional responses. The responses can be positive, sure, but they could be equally negative. I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp.

Everyone recognizes Stalins name too, but we shouldnt use his birthday.

 

[Taco John]

Taco John:

This has absolutely nothing to do with believing that every individual should be treated equal. Of course we should be. My concern is only due to MLK's communism. He was not quite the same man that is portrayed in the media and through revisionist history. I have said several times, that I would support something else that we can think of that gets the point across, that some are trying to do with this idea of having a fundraiser on MLK's birthday. Can you think of some other way to do the same thing? Some other holiday or activity we can celebrate?

Liberty Eagle:

I don't care what your personal concern is. That's between you, and yourself. All I care is that you have the liberty to post your opinion and either decide to participate or to not participate. I have chosen to participate. I chose to support Vijay by posting his effort on the Daily Paul so others could be informed of this fundraising effort. And then it got censored because a few people sent emails protesting.

There was a fundraiser on November 5th to celebrate a terrorist, not because we believed in his message of violence... Not because we wanted to install a theocracy... No. It was because we wanted to associate with his revolutionary message of change.

So it is with Reverand Martin Luther King. I don't believe in Communism. But I do believe in his message of individualism and peace through non-vilent means. This is what I'm celebrating. This is why I choose to donate.

It is completely disrespectful, and TOTALLY against the fabric of this movement for a subset of people to be allowed to squelch our voices and take away our means to communicate the message, when the same courtesy wasn't provided for the November 11th people.

You people are wrong to try and stop participation. This campaign is supposed to operate like a free market of ideas, with people either transacting with the idea because they agree or rejecting the idea by not transacting... Or transacting with the idea by COMPETING with it.

But squelching it? Censoring it? It's wrong.

 

[Electric Church]

This is an information war folks and the mainstream establishment has its moles workin double duty on this one. They hate moneybombs especially the ones that have the potential to unite

 

[Dieseler]

For Christ's sake!
Look at what is going on here for an example!

If we are this divided and dissenting on this right here in one forum thread, imagine what the rest of the world will think.

Wake up.

 

[cicatrice]

Everyone recognizes Stalins name too, but we shouldnt use his birthday.

Maybe I missed it...was this in support of what I said or the converse? *lol* Because I agree it shouldn't be upon name recognition (because the recognizability also correlates to established opinions which can be good or bad)--it just gets messy.

 

[_Chuck]

I'm in and here's why:

First, the choice of MLK day will be far less controversial than Guy Fawke's Day proved to be. Although some of you have had comments about MLK being a communist etc., the media will have nothing negative to say about MLK.

Secondly, the racist card has been something recently played by MSNBC, and will continue to be a line of attack by the MSM. Recent comments about MLK and Ghandi by Dr. Paul have shown that RP respects these "men of peace". Add to this that RP's own supporters have chosen MLK day as a day to donate to RP and to the cause of freedom -- will hopefully meet the racism attack head on.

 

[Noble]

I can't believe that the supporters of this are so willing to ignore how this idea has stirred up a hornets nest of controversy and divided the forums.

Please move on. The community does NOT agree in sufficient numbers.

 

[Jimmy]

I can't believe that the supporters of this are so willing to ignore how this idea has stirred up a hornets nest of controversy and divided the forums.

Please move on. The community does NOT agree in sufficient numbers.

You got that right

 

[cicatrice]

But squelching it? Censoring it? It's wrong.

Unless the mods delete it I don't see a problem. I consider it healthy to have differing opinions voiced. Some people say this is a bad idea whereas others have already pledged to donate. I just don't like the association of censorship with the whole lot of us if there are voices of dissent present.

 

[Electric Church]

I'm in and here's why:

First, the choice of MLK day will be far less controversial than Guy Fawke's Day proved to be. Although some of you have had comments about MLK being a communist etc., the media will have nothing negative to say about MLK.

Secondly, the racist card has been something recently played by MSNBC, and will continue to be a line of attack by the MSM. Recent comments about MLK and Ghandi by Dr. Paul have shown that RP respects these "men of peace". Add to this that RP's own supporters have chosen MLK day as a day to donate to RP and to the cause of freedom -- will hopefully meet the racism attack head on.

well said

 

[Taco John]

I can't believe that the supporters of this are so willing to ignore how this idea has stirred up a hornets nest of controversy and divided the forums.

Please move on. The community does NOT agree in sufficient numbers.

More censorhsip... "just move on" "we don't have to come up with a better idea, you guys just need to respect our demands."


Nobody is forcing anybody to participate. If you don't like the idea THEN COMPETE WITH IT.