Frank Luntz: Rand Paul by far most successful poll-tested platform on immigration

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Wish I could tube it, but just caught the end of the segment. They compared the Gang of 8 and Rand Paul and they played a clip of Durbin basically scoring 2 from GOP and 25 from Dems and then they played Rand talking about immigration reform and he was at 80 with both Republicans and Democrats. Good stuff from Hannity tonight.
 
you know what con men are? confidence men. some use the term honey, honey, poison. but it really is a confidence game that enables a later fraud. so, he does some honest analysis that shows rand doing well now. then switches the control group later to his coworkers... when the presidential election is on the line. then he acts like everything rand says leads to negatives. this being televised to the rubes tells them how they should feel about what he is saying too. same thing beck does. they are both confidence men.
 
Franks polls has always been great for Rand. Both one of his adds and his stump for Ron in New Hampshire scored great if my memory serves.
 
He likes Rand for the moment. But the immigration bill is NOT getting support, and I think they are switching on the GOP side to this as plan B, some of them, or testing the waters, to try to get buy in on the main points. The problem is not one of the plans, including Rand's, address the real economic issues of putting chain migration FROM the current illegal immigrants onto social security disability (elderly parents) taking from the SS fund, and on Obamacare, when there is already medical rationing starting to hit seniors in particular, and education, when education and medical in border states can be googled by anyone who doesn't live there already.

I'm disappointed that Rand isn't raising these issues, to be honest. The debate is being allowed to be framed as 'kick out the people who came as kids and be a monster' against the 'racists', and that is nonsensical.

And when you give amnesty, more come illegally, and the precedent of letting people self select by MEDICAL condition is one not permitted in ANY other country that has 'nationally provided healthcare'.
 
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you know what con men are? confidence men. some use the term honey, honey, poison. but it really is a confidence game that enables a later fraud. so, he does some honest analysis that shows rand doing well now. then switches the control group later to his coworkers... when the presidential election is on the line. then he acts like everything rand says leads to negatives. this being televised to the rubes tells them how they should feel about what he is saying too. same thing beck does. they are both confidence men.

Exactly. And this is also the best explanation I've seen for why we don't trust Glenn Beck and his "libertarianism."
 
you know what con men are? confidence men. some use the term honey, honey, poison. but it really is a confidence game that enables a later fraud. so, he does some honest analysis that shows rand doing well now. then switches the control group later to his coworkers... when the presidential election is on the line. then he acts like everything rand says leads to negatives. this being televised to the rubes tells them how they should feel about what he is saying too. same thing beck does. they are both confidence men.

Let's say you're absolutely correct (and I know you are). I can still see one positive effect even into the elections. The last election we saw many candidates skyrocket one week and crash and burn the next, only for the next one to follow. Classic easy come, easy go effect.

Rand Paul on the other hand is building up a strong foundation, and a brand for himself over the long haul. This ought to make it harder to knock him down.
 
Let's say you're absolutely correct (and I know you are). I can still see one positive effect even into the elections. The last election we saw many candidates skyrocket one week and crash and burn the next, only for the next one to follow. Classic easy come, easy go effect.

Rand Paul on the other hand is building up a strong foundation, and a brand for himself over the long haul. This ought to make it harder to knock him down.

The way he's going he could have it wrapped up before a vote is cast. I think that's the idea and why he's hitting IA, NH and SC real early.
 
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