Rand Paul BLOCKS Mike Lee's immigration bill

[Swordsmyth]

Are you happy that Rand blocked his friends bill?

Yes.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It's not an opinion. And it's not a new or unknown factoid. We've talked about it here before. The anti-H1B crowd has criticized him for it. Maybe you were among them, I don't know.
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In a plan that he laid out in 2013 he said, "High tech visas would also be expanded and have a priority."
https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/...ch-immigration-reform/83SaSlT120cHDP2fLLepfO/
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So the context is a speech to some Hispanic organization, as evidenced by Rand speaking Spanish so much. I would like to hear Rand’s current opinion on visas and how many there should be, as opposed to a 2013 stump speech.

 

[Superfluous Man]

So the context is a speech to some Hispanic organization, as evidenced by Rand speaking Spanish so much. I would like to hear Rand’s current opinion on visas and how many there should be, as opposed to a 2013 stump speech.

The bill he cosponsored in 2017 would "eliminate the per country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants."

ETA: I just noticed that the 2019 version of the bill that the OP is talking about actually doesn't include that provision. I wonder if putting that back in what Rand's amendment was. That would be consistent with his longstanding support for increasing legal immigration.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

All aboard!

If it’s good enough for cities like San Francisco and London, then it’s good enough for the entire US! When they say “please watch your step”, they are not talking about getting on the train...

 

[RJB]

If it’s good enough for cities like San Francisco and London, then it’s good enough for the entire US! When they say “please watch your step”, they are not talking about getting on the train...

Is that the corpes that were floating down the Ganges?

 

[nikcers]

So the context is a speech to some Hispanic organization, as evidenced by Rand speaking Spanish so much. I would like to hear Rand’s current opinion on visas and how many there should be, as opposed to a 2013 stump speech.

Context is always important with Rands talking points, I don't pretend to know what his opinion on immigration is but based on being his number 1 stalker I gather that he tends to argue for immigration reform that is more discriminate or biased towards skilled and educated people versus uneducated and unskilled and people that have gained skills and education here should be ahead of people who want to immigrate here who are unskilled or uneducated.

 

[RonZeplin]

Definitely need a roll call vote to see who else opposes Elvis, Buddy Holly & Rand. Get the un-American slimeballs on the record.

 

[nikcers]

All aboard!

Climate change is just natures thermostat that controls population. If man can manipulate the thermostat for political gain than its more likely designed to either drastically reduce the population or force people to adapt to a climate that is less tolerable. You already see this in places like China where millions of people die from their poisonous air. In a large enough time scale and population people can adapt drastically.

 

[Matt Collins]

Poorly written article.

Rand didn't block the bill, he simply forced it to be voted on instead of moving forward by unanimous consent. Article needs additional, and more accurate details.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Is that the corpes that were floating down the Ganges?

Floating or laying on the sidewalk...

 

[r3volution 3.0]

It is entirely consistent for Rand or Thomas Massie or Justin Amash to make sure that bills are not passed by unanimous consent and are instead voted upon. It's about being on record and accountability.

That's absurd.

If there's a bill to abolish the Fed, you're telling me you want Rand to kill it in the name of some procedural nonsense?

It (i.e. governing) is not about "being on record and accountability;" it's about passing good laws - end of story.

As for this story, I don't know what maneuvering Rand may have been involved in, but it looks like an anti-immigration move.

If that's so, welp, can't say I'm surprised; Rand hasn't been worth shit since he started licking his former primary opponent's boots.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

That's absurd.

If there's a bill to abolish the Fed, you're telling me you want Rand to kill it in the name of some procedural nonsense?

It (i.e. governing) is not about "being on record and accountability;" it's about passing good laws - end of story.

As for this story, I don't know what maneuvering Rand may have been involved in, but it looks like an anti-immigration move.

If that's so, welp, can't say I'm surprised; Rand hasn't been worth shit since he started licking his former primary opponent's boots.

It is what they have been doing for a long time, and have given that reason. I suppose you would criticize Ron Paul if he called for a vote only so that he could be the lone dissenter.

And we know, globalists are usually of the kind that the ends justify the means; by any means necessary. Thus truth, honesty and due process are anathema.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The bill he cosponsored in 2017 would "eliminate the per country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants."

ETA: I just noticed that the 2019 version of the bill that the OP is talking about actually doesn't include that provision. I wonder if putting that back in what Rand's amendment was. That would be consistent with his longstanding support for increasing legal immigration.

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As for this story, I don't know what maneuvering Rand may have been involved in, but it looks like an anti-immigration move.
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We don’t know the reasoning, but if I had to guess, I’d lean more towards the Superfluous hypothesis. You can debate him about the motivation after he picks himself up off the floor.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

It is what they have been doing for a long time, and have given that reason. I suppose you would criticize Ron Paul if he called for a vote only so that he could be the lone dissenter.

And we know, globalists are usually of the kind that the ends justify the means; by any means necessary. Thus truth, honesty and due process are anathema.

You're a clown.

 

[Leaning Libertarian]

Unless I have misinterpreted the proposal, I understood it to eliminate per nation caps on H1B work visa and family sponsored visa issuance and instead revert to first come first served regardless of host nation. Nations with large domestic populations such as India and China would benefit, as they have unprocessed applicants with more than a decade of waiting time. This would have a negative impact on other nations, especially related to the H1B program as they would suddenly be in the back of the queue, as they now wait for all those decade long applicants to be processed under "first come." Not to sound racist; however, China and India H1B workers stereotypically serve certain corporate sectors above others. I'm just thinking out loud, but perhaps the corporate interest to procure H1B workers for the state of Kentucky would not be best served under such a program as the immigrant workers are not typically represented by China nor India. If this is the case, it would be in Senator Paul's best interest to serve his constituency.

 

[loveshiscountry]

You're a clown.

aww poor little thing get upset because you didn't like the explanation? You already said "don't know what maneuvering Rand may have been involved in,". You don't know so don't comment until you do.
Forcing a vote doesn't kill the bill. That's it.