Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1773344175406108966

MAYOR OF BALTIMORE: DEI IS THE NEW N-WORD

"I know, we all know, young black men have been the boogie man for those that are racist and think only straight, wealthy, white men should have a say in anything.

We've been the boogie man for them since the first day they brought us to this country.

And what they mean by DEI, in my opinion, we know what they mean to say; they just don't have the courage to say the N-word.

The fact that I am proud of who I am and where I come from scares them.

Because being in my position means that their way of thinking, their way of living comfortably while everyone else suffers, is going to be at risk.

And they should be afraid because that's my only purpose in life."

Source: MSNBC, @DMichaelTripi

 

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1773226622109221091

 

[CaptUSA]

https://twitter.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1773226622109221091

I'm with you. Just thought it was funny.

My point with conspiracy theories has always been that it isn't the conclusions that they draw that's important as much as it is that people don't trust the institutions which is why we have to question everything.

 

[TheCount]

All these years I never realized that 69% of posters on the internet are master mariners

 

[susano]

Obviously the evidence indicates that the ship was totally fixed and in tip top shape and left harbor without a shed of concern.

I would be curious about when these electrical issues began.

Seems totally logical to let a huge ship with major electrical issues leave port. I think that is what any responsible crew would do.

Notice it says, "mechanics had been trying to fix the issue".

Maybe they should have called an electrician.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The Dali cargo ship which smashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge suffered a 'severe electrical problem' while docked in Baltimore days before, according to a port worker.

Julie Mitchell, co-administrator of Container Royalty, a company which tracks cargo, told CNN the ship was anchored at the port for at least 48 hours prior to the deadly crash.

Following the devastation, she said: 'And those two days, they were having serious power outages… they had a severe electrical problem. It was total power failure, loss of engine power, everything.'

Mitchell explained that refrigerated boxes tripped breakers on board the ship on several occasions, and mechanics had been trying to fix the issue.

She said she didn't know whether the problem had been fixed when the ship set off.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ure-loss-engine-failure-port-worker-says.html

Pretty much what I said from day one.

This ship suffered a severe electric failure.

Twice, you see when the main power cuts out, shortly after they start backing down on the main engine, indicated by the heavy black smoke, and then again a second time as the e-gen kicks on, shortly, and then cuts back out again.

Somewhere I am going to guess there was direct short to ground in the main buss panel or parallel buss panel, that just smoked the whole system.

There was little, if anything, the captain, pilot or crew could have done, they were dark and out of control.

Dropping an anchor would do little, the bottom there is mud and an anchor would drag, if it did fetch up hard on a rock or obstruction, at the speed they moving, it would have snapped the anchor chain or tore the wildcat right out of the windlass.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1773226622109221091

But the fact that they dropped anchor is kind of funny. I just gotta wonder how much damage could be done underwater dragging an anchor across that area. Any pipes, cables or conduits down there to be ripped up?

 

[Anti Federalist]

All these years I never realized that 69% of posters on the internet are master mariners

The definition of "Master Mariner" is one who holds both a Master's certificate and a Chief Engineer's certificate.

I do...or at least did, until IMO regs prohibited it on international tickets.

 

[susano]

Pretty much what I said from day one.

This ship suffered a severe electric failure.

Twice, you see when the main power cuts out, shortly after they start backing down on the main engine, indicated by the heavy black smoke, and then again a second time as the e-gen kicks on, shortly, and then cuts back out again.

Somewhere I am going to guess there was direct short to ground in the main buss panel or parallel buss panel, that just smoked the whole system.

There was little, if anything, the captain, pilot or crew could have done, they were dark and out of control.

Dropping an anchor would do little, the bottom there is mud and an anchor would drag, if it did fetch up hard on a rock or obstruction, at the speed they moving, it would have snapped the anchor chain or tore the wildcat right out of the windlass.

I don't know anything about ships and the shipping business but I'm gonna guess, that like everything else, time is money and there's probably pressure to get things moving, especially considering that shipping is experiencing other problems causing delays due to the Houthis and the drought in Panama.

 

[Anti Federalist]

But the fact that they dropped anchor is kind of funny. I just gotta wonder how much damage could be done underwater dragging an anchor across that area. Any pipes or conduits down there to be ripped up?

Yes, there are, which is why that was never a "dark ship" option in the oilfield.

Here's a chart of the area, clearly showing cables and pipelines.

The ship was traveling at about one shiplength per minute. You see the scale on this chart at 375 per inch. The event started at roughly 4:11, so that means the ship traveled roughly 3300 feet, over half a mile before impact, and at least a couple thousand feet before the submerged cable lines.

Not out of the question to drop anchor at that point and it is standard procedure.

Like I said, had it been me, I would have ordered hard right rudder and beached it in the mud on the west side of the channel.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I don't know anything about ships and the shipping business but I'm gonna guess, that like everything else, time is money and there's probably pressure to get things moving, especially considering that shipping is experiencing other problems causing delays due to the Houthis and the drought in Panama.

That is exactly right.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

since the first day they brought us to this country.

My guy, you are perfectly free to leave. But if you're going to stick around, how about not hustling stuff that happened 170 years ago? It's getting old... and if you keep drudging up that sh!t as an excuse to keep everyone else around you quiet and compliant, that's going to expire shortly, and you aren't going to like the result.

We were doing just fine in this country 30 years ago. We all got along, we all hung out and partied together and nobody f**king cared who was what "color". But all of a sudden we're mired in damned near the worst racial division in this country now since the '60's, if not earlier. And it's stupid, because it really is plainly just a political tactic mostly of the left but even to a certain extent of the right.

There are 3 options here: 1 - we can go back to ignoring race like we had finally gotten to in the '90's; 2 - we can continue on this current path of making race the essence of every single issue in our political discourse and just see how that goes; or 3 - it's going to come down to a fight... and that's not an option that 13% of the population should want to toy with...

 

[PAF]

I don't know anything about ships and the shipping business but I'm gonna guess, that like everything else, time is money and there's probably pressure to get things moving, especially considering that shipping is experiencing other problems causing delays due to the Houthis and the drought in Panama.

Some minor delays, but not the End of America the World as Biden would have you believe [AND PAY FOR].

GM, Ford will reroute Baltimore shipments after bridge collapse


"There are a lot of other areas that can pick up the slack like the New York Harbor and all the way down to Savannah, Georgia", he said in an email. "It will take a while for the situation to resolve and to begin operating normally again, so definitely there will be delays in deliveries of goods."


Other transportation companies reported no major impact.

"While Baltimore is not a primary port for our North American operations, there will be some impact, primarily on vehicle exports," Toyota (7203.T), said in a statement. "At this time, we do not anticipate a significant disruption, but we are evaluating the situation closely to determine the longer term impact and countermeasures.”

Volkswagen Group of America (VOWG_p.DE), said it was not impacted because its Baltimore facility is located on the easterly sea board of the bridge collapse, while Nissan (7201.T), said it did not expect significant impact at this time.

BMW (BMWG.DE), said the car docks are located on the ocean side of the harbor, so there was no major impact expected as the bridge collapse will not affect ships. It added that land-side truck traffic would be rerouted.

Mercedes (MBGn.DE), said the incident has had no impact on vehicle exports or the company's Tuscaloosa, Alabama, plant's parts supply, and it was monitoring the situation. It said it uses ports in Baltimore, as well as in Georgia and South Carolina, for vehicle imports.

Volvo Group (VOLVb.ST), which makes trucks, construction equipment and engines, said it was looking over its inventory in its U.S. production facilities to see if and when there could be a disturbance in worst-case scenarios, adding it currently expected no huge impact.


https://www.reuters.com/business/au...e-shipments-after-bridge-collapse-2024-03-26/
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[acptulsa]

...or 3 - it's going to come down to a fight... and that's not an option that 13% of the population should want to toy with...

Seems to be what they want. Except we've been too civilized to do it, so they imported foreign criminals and stuck them in the ghettos.

There are some serious ruthless people behind these two puppets. Our Quadrennio Rosso.

Italy had two red years -- the Biennio Rosso -- and installed Mussolini.

 

[susano]

Some minor delays, but not the End of America the World as Biden would have you believe [AND PAY FOR].

GM, Ford will reroute Baltimore shipments after bridge collapse


"There are a lot of other areas that can pick up the slack like the New York Harbor and all the way down to Savannah, Georgia", he said in an email. "It will take a while for the situation to resolve and to begin operating normally again, so definitely there will be delays in deliveries of goods."


Other transportation companies reported no major impact.

"While Baltimore is not a primary port for our North American operations, there will be some impact, primarily on vehicle exports," Toyota (7203.T), said in a statement. "At this time, we do not anticipate a significant disruption, but we are evaluating the situation closely to determine the longer term impact and countermeasures.”

Volkswagen Group of America (VOWG_p.DE), said it was not impacted because its Baltimore facility is located on the easterly sea board of the bridge collapse, while Nissan (7201.T), said it did not expect significant impact at this time.

BMW (BMWG.DE), said the car docks are located on the ocean side of the harbor, so there was no major impact expected as the bridge collapse will not affect ships. It added that land-side truck traffic would be rerouted.

Mercedes (MBGn.DE), said the incident has had no impact on vehicle exports or the company's Tuscaloosa, Alabama, plant's parts supply, and it was monitoring the situation. It said it uses ports in Baltimore, as well as in Georgia and South Carolina, for vehicle imports.

Volvo Group (VOLVb.ST), which makes trucks, construction equipment and engines, said it was looking over its inventory in its U.S. production facilities to see if and when there could be a disturbance in worst-case scenarios, adding it currently expected no huge impact.


https://www.reuters.com/business/au...e-shipments-after-bridge-collapse-2024-03-26/
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Yeah, the worse thing I see about it is the men who lost their lives.

 

[pmbug]

Pretty much what I said from day one.

This ship suffered a severe electric failure.

Twice, you see when the main power cuts out, shortly after they start backing down on the main engine, indicated by the heavy black smoke, and then again a second time as the e-gen kicks on, shortly, and then cuts back out again.

Somewhere I am going to guess there was direct short to ground in the main buss panel or parallel buss panel, that just smoked the whole system.

There was little, if anything, the captain, pilot or crew could have done, they were dark and out of control.

Dropping an anchor would do little, the bottom there is mud and an anchor would drag, if it did fetch up hard on a rock or obstruction, at the speed they moving, it would have snapped the anchor chain or tore the wildcat right out of the windlass.

Cheers.

https://twitter.com/mercoglianos/status/1773123345820614699

 

[vita3]

'We were doing just fine in this country 30 years ago. We all got along, we all hung out and partied together and nobody f**king cared who was what "color". But all of a sudden we're mired in damned near the worst racial division in this country now since the '60's, if not earlier. And it's stupid, because it really is plainly just a political tactic mostly of the left but even to a certain extent of the right.'

agree.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Cop dispatch recordings

https://www.wmur.com/article/dispatch-audio-key-bridge-collapse/60324637

 

[susano]

Cop dispatch recordings

https://www.wmur.com/article/dispatch-audio-key-bridge-collapse/60324637

"once you get there I'll go grab the workers on the Key bridge and then stop the outer loop" and it's down.

I'm no engineer but when I watched that I thought what a shitty bridge design that when one part falls it all falls. Why not have arches below that hold up independent sections?

 

[Anti Federalist]

"once you get there I'll go grab the workers on the Key bridge and then stop the outer loop" and it's down.

I'm no engineer but when I watched that I thought what a shitty bridge design that when one part falls it all falls. Why not have arches below that hold up independent sections?

For the same reason that there are no requirements to have assist tugs escort vessels all the way to the sea buoy.

For the same reason bridges do not have massive rock "rip raps" around them to stop a vessel.

For the same reason cargo vessels are not built to the redundancy standards that the vessels I served as master on are built to.

Because it's cheaper.