TheTexan
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Democrat Hillary Clinton - 39%
Republican Donald Trump - 42%
Nice, Trump is in the lead

Democrat Hillary Clinton - 39%
Republican Donald Trump - 42%
If we were included in the polls more often, we would be a force to be reckoned with.
Gary Johnson wants to force jewish bakers to make nazi cakes by federal law. That's probably the most draconian policy I've heard from any candidate in any party.
lol..... you actually think he is going to sign a bill that would force Jewish bakers to make a nazi cake?? Come on man.. what he was saying was that the discrimination issue is a black hole. It is. Sorry. I don't agree with it, but you can't convince a majority of the voters that businesses open to "the public" should be able to say "No blacks allowed" or not serve a certain race or some such.. if he takes any other position on the issue, then that is what his views will be portrayed as. It's a great question for a libertarian debate, and I'm not quite sure he was able to fully process the statement before answering, but he prides himself on being able to attract people from the left, which is what we need. We need Bernie's detracted supporters to help get as much liberty as possible.
Gary Johnson has much more important issues like taxes and debt, end the war on drugs, draw back our foreign policy adventurism.. The discrimination issue is a very poor reason to oppose him as a candidate.. I oppose him on the issue on principle, but I'm not going to oppose him as a candidate over it, he has too many good policy positions to oppose him on an issue where he's trying to get people on the left so we can come together and defeat the two party system, reign in our foreign empire and get some good tax and spending policy implemented.
Good point! He is no Ron Paul!Johnson's foreign policy is all over the map.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-gary-johnsons-strange-foreign-policy/
I didn't want to spend the time looking for the video, but he made a horse's ass out of himself when he was being interviewed by a FOX panel in 2012, on foreign policy. They had each Republican candidate on there and Johnson was embarrassing.
... I can imagine TPTB trying to create a bigger divide between libertarians and GOP by blaming Trump's assured loss to the Clintons on us. ...
Good point! He is no Ron Paul!
This "He/She is No Ron Paul" stuff again. There is no Ron Paul except for Ron Paul. One of a kind guy. We have worthy successors to him, but none of them will just like the man who brought us all to this site. I've settled with myself that I'm not getting another Ron, so one of his torchbearers will have to do.
Not sure if I'd say Gary Johnson is exactly in the same category I put Ron Paul and others in, but he's better than the embarrassments to dignity that are Trump and Killary.
Johnson's foreign policy is all over the map.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-gary-johnsons-strange-foreign-policy/
I didn't want to spend the time looking for the video, but he made a horse's ass out of himself when he was being interviewed by a FOX panel in 2012, on foreign policy. They had each Republican candidate on there and Johnson was embarrassing.
This "He/She is No Ron Paul" stuff again. There is no Ron Paul except for Ron Paul. One of a kind guy. We have worthy successors to him, but none of them will just like the man who brought us all to this site. I've settled with myself that I'm not getting another Ron, so one of his torchbearers will have to do.
Not sure if I'd say Gary Johnson is exactly in the same category I put Ron Paul and others in, but he's better than the embarrassments to dignity that are Trump and Killary.
All over the map? Sounds kind of like.....
Trump?
Trump isn't claiming to be a "libertarian". If some are going to stick their noses in the air claiming some kind of righteousness, Johnson probably shouldn't be their go to guy. Just sayin'...
Johnson's foreign policy is all over the map.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-gary-johnsons-strange-foreign-policy/
I didn't want to spend the time looking for the video, but he made a horse's ass out of himself when he was being interviewed by a FOX panel in 2012, on foreign policy. They had each Republican candidate on there and Johnson was embarrassing.
Johnson has zero philosophical understanding of property rights, and his wedding cake answer brought that to light. How is he the frontrunner of the Libertarian party when he has no grasp on the cornerstone of libertarianism?