Fox News *loves* Ron Paul

[speciallyblend]

that tells me all the phone calls and emails are working and fox news understands ,to keep their viewers,they better start being fair and balanced,ANYONE NOTICE they changed their tune in the last week,cant wait to see Ron Paul,on O'Reilly,liked to think my emails and calls ,are why he is on O'Reilly now,keep watching and keep the revolution going .tell your friends and family and make a stranger your friend,RON PAUL2008

 

[ButchHowdy]

" . . .
Do not attribute to malice that which is more adequately explained by stupidity . . . "

I like that!

But I still hold to The Conspiracy!

 

[Spirit of '76]

So Colmes and Hannity, like most middle aged Americans with just enough knowledge of technology to be suspicious of it, looked at the text poll results, recalled the fact that Ron Paul is polling at about 3% nationally, and made the entirely innocent and expected assumption that Ron Paul's technology savvy supporters were somehow exploiting the voting mechanism to misrepresent their candidate's support.

The fact of the matter is that Colmes and Hannity, despite their on camera recognition, aren't academics, aren't scientists, aren't technology savvy, and for the most part aren't any smarter than the average bear.

Had they been, and I assure you they are not, they would have instead reached the conclusion that it was not deceit that accounted for the disparity in the text poll results compared to national and primary state poll results, but rather the fact that the text poll is a self-selecting, unscientific poll, whereas the national and primary state polls are broadly, scientific polls, and are not self-selecting.

Do not attribute to malice that which is more adequately explained by stupidity.

The number one mistake made by many Ron Paul supporters is overestimating the opposition. The number two mistake is overestimating the opposition's perception of them as a threat.

I respectfully disagree. Hannity fully knows better.

The guy lies for a living. He knew he was lying, just as he knew he was lying the next day when he went on the radio and stated that Ron Paul is polling at "0.1%" in the national opinion polls.

He had that "speed-dialing" line ready to roll long before the results started coming in. After all, he already knew how the poll was going to go.

 

[Shink]

Why all the hating on Fox News? I run a business, and I always have Fox News on in the background. You would not believe how much coverage Fox has been giving to Ron Paul these last two days. More than Huckabee, more than Giuliani, more than McCain, more than Romney, more than Thompson.

When I went to bed last night, there was a fair discussion of Ron Paul on Fox's late night program, "Red Eye." Then, when I woke up, the FNC show "Cashin' In" was debating Ron Paul's suggestion in New Hampshire that we should allow the airlines to police their own security. Of the four people on the panel, two supported it and two opposed. All four, however, were very respectful of Dr. Paul, none took "low blows," or anything like that.

Yesterday, they replayed a montage of all his arguement in the NH debate on Hannity and Colmes. Hannity then said that Paul won the debate's text message vote and he did not try to downplay it with "they probably cheated" or anything like that.

On Monday, O'Reilly will talk with Ron Paul. The O'Reilly Factor is the most watched cable news program in the entire country.

Out of all the news channels, the Fox News Channel is the most respectful and gives the most coverage to Ron Paul--ecspecially recently. We need to quit hating on the main stream media; its not that they are trying to censor Ron Paul, its just that like all television news, they are slow to change--but they are chaning now.

They are censoring him...or have been, if you claim they aren't right now, I'll take your word for it. This causes me to wonder (on the condition that O'Reilly is respectful to RP, which I REALLY don't expect...) if perhaps they are thinking about suddenly backing him (mildly) to save face.

 

[Sakimoto]

Why all the hating on Fox News? I run a business, and I always have Fox News on in the background. You would not believe how much coverage Fox has been giving to Ron Paul these last two days. More than Huckabee, more than Giuliani, more than McCain, more than Romney, more than Thompson.

When I went to bed last night, there was a fair discussion of Ron Paul on Fox's late night program, "Red Eye." Then, when I woke up, the FNC show "Cashin' In" was debating Ron Paul's suggestion in New Hampshire that we should allow the airlines to police their own security. Of the four people on the panel, two supported it and two opposed. All four, however, were very respectful of Dr. Paul, none took "low blows," or anything like that.

Yesterday, they replayed a montage of all his arguement in the NH debate on Hannity and Colmes. Hannity then said that Paul won the debate's text message vote and he did not try to downplay it with "they probably cheated" or anything like that.

On Monday, O'Reilly will talk with Ron Paul. The O'Reilly Factor is the most watched cable news program in the entire country.

Out of all the news channels, the Fox News Channel is the most respectful and gives the most coverage to Ron Paul--ecspecially recently. We need to quit hating on the main stream media; its not that they are trying to censor Ron Paul, its just that like all television news, they are slow to change--but they are chaning now.

I'm afraid I completely disagree with the main post on this thread. True "journalism" in the mainstream is dead. The mainstream media is NOT news. It is entertainment and commentary, pure and simple. It is a political vehicle, and their purpose is to make money by pushing whatever agenda that makes them the most money. Nothing they "report" on is approached in a neutral manner. Everything is biased and slanted to infect the American viewers to believe what they want us to believe...unadulterated propaganda. They have no integrity. I'd suggest going cold turkey, and totally swear off MSM, at least for a while, and see how your viewpoint on the issues of the day change. You will find you will start thinking for yourself and you may have a completely new perspective. I'd also suggest you search the internet, the last bastion of free thought, for a variety of well informed, and opposing news sites that are not mainstream. Do your research, don't take anything at face value. When you find some sites that you think present things in a more or less neutral way, that do not tell half-truths, and present factual information, stick with them. You don't need the likes of FOX news and the rest to be informed. Actually, by watching that crap, your IQ may be inadvertantly lowered. And please, stop defending FOX. They are despicable. In my mind, even moreso than the rest. They make me sick.

 

[speciallyblend]

They graduated College,BS plain and simple,they are the smartest people on earth(sarcasm) no excuses ,they both(hannity and colmes) lied to americans by trying to act like Ron Paul Supporters were spamming votes. RON PAUL 2008

 

[blazin_it_alwyz]

Out of all the news channels, the Fox News Channel is the most respectful......its not that they are trying to censor Ron Paul......

Wow good laughs. Thanks for that. I'm not going to even waste my time giving you evidence, that is just one of those questions that you laugh at, rather than answer. That's the equivalent of coming in this forum, and saying Ron Paul hates the Constitution. All you get is laughs from me.

 

[itsnobody]

Why all the hating on Fox News? I run a business, and I always have Fox News on in the background. You would not believe how much coverage Fox has been giving to Ron Paul these last two days. More than Huckabee, more than Giuliani, more than McCain, more than Romney, more than Thompson.

When I went to bed last night, there was a fair discussion of Ron Paul on Fox's late night program, "Red Eye." Then, when I woke up, the FNC show "Cashin' In" was debating Ron Paul's suggestion in New Hampshire that we should allow the airlines to police their own security. Of the four people on the panel, two supported it and two opposed. All four, however, were very respectful of Dr. Paul, none took "low blows," or anything like that.

Yesterday, they replayed a montage of all his arguement in the NH debate on Hannity and Colmes. Hannity then said that Paul won the debate's text message vote and he did not try to downplay it with "they probably cheated" or anything like that.

On Monday, O'Reilly will talk with Ron Paul. The O'Reilly Factor is the most watched cable news program in the entire country.

Out of all the news channels, the Fox News Channel is the most respectful and gives the most coverage to Ron Paul--ecspecially recently. We need to quit hating on the main stream media; its not that they are trying to censor Ron Paul, its just that like all television news, they are slow to change--but they are chaning now.

I agree, Ron Paul supporters should stop this type of conspiracy mode they're in "they're against us" "they won't let Ron Paul into the MSM", etc....and just face reality, Ron Paul is getting great coverage from Fox...Fox is full of conservatives I'm sure a lot of them agree with him when it comes to economics but not foreign policy...

 

[Kuldebar]

Local Fox News is generally alright, the national shows are where things get blatantly slanted. The more popular the show, the more rabid the host or hosts tend to be.

I can see an appearance on a show like O'Reilly play out a number of ways, the more likely is that Bill will end up doing most the talking:

BO: Congressman Paul, you are an isolationist, ya, I know you don't like that label, but that's in fact what you are, that theory of foreign policy went out of style, and rightfully so about 100 years ago. I think you need to wake up and realize the real world and get out of that libertarian wonderland you are living in.

RP: Well, I disag...

BO: Congressman Paul we are out of time. Thanks for watching the Factor. The No Spin Zone, goodnight!

That's his most common method. Bill often uses his guests presence to simply lambaste them while curtailing their time for response and rebuttal.

With weaker personalities, he can just have the guest so confuzzled they stop making coherent statements, I don't see that as a likely with Ron Paul.

There are many other things:

-taking things out of context in a constant manner

-using extremes to "prove' something is unwise or crazy

-being "nice' while belittling, diminishing or humoring

-continually denouncing by using "layered facts" to destroy a concept (Example: You say some very interesting things, but Islamo-Fascists and Global Terrorism requires our Nation to fight it in order to survive, coming back home and closing our eyes to it, is not a solution.)

Ron Paul could easily rebut the statement but would need time to explain things:
1.) Yes, we have enemies and they are dangerous.
2.) We are helping our enemies recruit new members by our presence in Iraq and elsewhere
3.)Having a strong defense and protecting our borders while minding our business overseas will make us safer.

The host could simply interrupt with more question while Paul answers the original question thus making Paul position seem disjointed or unclear.

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Blowhard hosts who have agendas will be a challenge to get a message out, they will attempt to make Paul's presentation to appear choppy and all over the board.


None of this stuff is insurmountable to Ron Paul, he is a veteran of discussion and debate, but such Fox appearances may be somewhat mediocre when compared to Paul's other appearances.

 

[austinphish]

Out of all the news channels, the Fox News Channel is the most respectful and gives the most coverage to Ron Paul--ecspecially recently. We need to quit hating on the main stream media; its not that they are trying to censor Ron Paul, its just that like all television news, they are slow to change--but they are chaning now.

WRONG! MSNBC has been the best to Dr. Paul by far. It is good to hear Faux news is changing their tune a little, but I still hold them as an enemy to freedom.

 

[Kuldebar]

One could argue that the Face of Fox News is Bill OReilly. Let's look at how nice he can be:

YouTube - Jeremy Glick vs Bill O'Reilly

 

[Corydoras]

Whenever the MSM show respect for Ron Paul, no matter what motives they have in mind, keep in mind the quote from "Ghostbusters."

"When someone asks you if you are a god, SAY YES!"

 

[bumbledraven]

Wow good laughs. Thanks for that.

I agree that FOX airs a lot of crap, but they also air Tucker Carlson who regularly has Paul on his show and has said that "In my heart, Ron Paul wins every debate."

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't realize he was on MSNBC. Thanks for the correction.

 

[constituent]

I agree that FOX airs a lot of crap, but they also air Tucker Carlson who regularly has Paul on his show and has said that "In my heart, Ron Paul wins every debate."

kidding, right?

 

[Spirit of '76]

I agree that FOX airs a lot of crap, but they also air Tucker Carlson who regularly has Paul on his show and has said that "In my heart, Ron Paul wins every debate."

Tucker is on MSNBC, along with Pat Buchanan, who has also endorsed Ron. They also have Joe Scarborough, who said that Ron Paul is the "only" Reagan conservative running.

 

[Kuldebar]

I agree that FOX airs a lot of crap, but they also air Tucker Carlson who regularly has Paul on his show and has said that "In my heart, Ron Paul wins every debate."

Umm, that's MSNBC not Fox.

 

[Shink]

I agree that FOX airs a lot of crap, but they also air Tucker Carlson who regularly has Paul on his show and has said that "In my heart, Ron Paul wins every debate."

*BUZZER* Wrong. Tucker is on MSNBC, which is better to Ron Paul overall because Tucker and Pat defend him and bring him up a lot more than anyone else.

 

[blazin_it_alwyz]

If guns were allowed on planes then OF COURSE the hijacker would be carrying guns also. His arguement makes no sense, but he is right to say safety on airlines should be the airlines responsiblity - just like a ship or a train.

Wrong. Here is what you fail to realize, and I will explain it from 2 possible scenarios.

Ron Paul said that the crew should have weapons aboard the plane. As we all know, you cannot get on to the plane carrying weapons, the crew's guns would trump the terrorists box cutters. So you lose that argument.

And I think I know what you are trying to say, that Ron Paul said that everyone on the plane should be armed. He didn't say this, and he corrected the moderator in the debate, if you watched it.

And I know Ron Paul didn't say this, but let's just say, for fun, that he believes that everyone on the plane should be allowed to be armed. You have 8 terrorists with guns, and you have THE REST OF THE PLANE WITH GUNS. Last time I checked, 50-100+ people on a plane, plus the crew members with guns, so you have 8 terrorists, vs. the rest of the plane.

You lose that argument also.

 

[dircha]

My theory is that when they saw the results of the after debate text message poll they realized how much support Ron Paul really has, despite all of their ignoring him and calling him a second tier candidate and saying that he won't win. They realize that there's a very good chance that Ron Paul IS going to win the primaries.

If they were to keep up with ignoring him all the way to the primaries, and then Ron Paul won, Fox would look like absolute fools. They would never be trusted by their viewers again and would lose all their influence over the public, and the public would have a huge awakening.

Fox immediately moved to try to do their best to bring Ron Paul down by putting him up against their top dog, Bill O'Reilly. This interview is very important for Ron Paul. No worries from me though... Ron Paul always shines in one-on-one interviews. My prediction is that O'Reilly will try to make Ron Paul look like a fool, then end up looking like a fool himself. Ron Paul is sharp as a razor, he's honest, he has integrity, he knows his stuff, and everything he says is based on the Constitution; there's no possible argument against him.

Ron Paul will shine, and then get media attention straight through the primaries and then the presidency.

Text polls are self-selecting unscientific polls that have no statistically significant relationship to the outcome of individual state primaries.

You are delusional.

Ron Paul will LOSE unless ALL OF US get out the message at the grass roots level and motivate individuals to vote in the New Hampshire, Iowa, and South Carolina primaries.

By all scientific measures, Ron Paul is far, far behind in New Hampshire. And yet the myth persists among many Ron Paul supporters that the state is already in the bag for Paul.

There's something to be said for Fox News viewers and myths. Apparently there's also something to be said for people who get all their news from internet forums and myths.

Delusional. This will be our downfall.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Yeah! like the NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! response to the moderator the other night!!


I thought he was going to jump off the stage and bitch-slap the guy.

lol, my thoughts exactly!

It was a great moment. I loved it!

Had me jumping around in the livingroom shouting GO RON GO!!!!