Fox News Debate (12/15) OFFICIAL Thread

i was at the Straw Poll in Iowa in 2007.... typical Romney tactics. We had an entire street lined with RP signs in Iowa when a golf cart full of yellowshirts with 6 foot tall signs all lined up in the road in front of us, blotted out the sun with their signs, had their pictures taken by the media, and immediately disbursed.... and dont even get me started about the bouncers they employed around their stage.... so sad, such a waste of money.... lol

Romney? Money to hire rent-a-supporters? Impossible =D.

But seriously, that's a really crazy story. I hope I get to see some of that when this comes to Virginia down the road...
 
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I feel like the average uninformed voter that operates on knee-jerk reactions will view that exchange with Bachmann as unfavorable to Ron Paul. The pundits are qualifying Gingrich as some kind of special "idea guy", when as many of us know that Paul's entire platform is interconnected. Debate platforms simply do not favor him as much, and it's an uphill battle - all of us Paul supporters know that it's a matter of comprehension and not aesthetics. Gingrich pulls it off because he gets away with saying everything aurally pleasing, but completely unworkable in reality.

We get questions about Iran, but they're myopic enough that connecting them back to the economy only works for people that think of our foreign policy as mutually exclusive. Uninformed voters are inclined to treat these two problems as separate, and to such an end they get this desire to appear strong (hawkish positions), while masquerading as a conservative (small government = more self relience = requiring more responsibility = allusion to images of strength). To that end it's unfortunate that the campaign was unable to work in the emotional appeals necessary to pull sway in debates - ie: appealing specifically to the idea that we're willing to sacrifice our own, and more accurately the visceral horrors of war. We get so many chickenhawks in government because they do not have any clue at all what horrors lie in war - they've never come close to experiencing it, preferring to treat it as an intellectual exercise as numbers, ignoring the actual human elements that live and die at their discretion.

Much of the neoconservative movement thoroughly rests on abject cognitive dissonance. These people cannot be won over without an initiative from the individual to put their beliefs through an acid test, and as everyone knows it is usually quite difficult to challenge oneself and all they believe in. What we need to hope comes out of every debate is that Ron Paul says something that makes those people willing to challenge themselves. That's all we can ask.

Dr. Paul didn't say anything his supporters aren't already aware of. You know this, I know this, we all know this. We know what we stand for, and we can't hinge on every small thing that happens that may discourage people that may be uncomfortable with his positions for whatever reason.

Do what you can, disseminate information that will inform people. Believe in the ideas he puts forth, and that they will ultimately win out over the ideas put forth by others. More than anything invest your time and resources into spreading that information.

Let it not be said that we did nothing. Let the cards fall where they may.
 
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this is not a friendly interview...hannity it burning his bridges. hatchet job folks...damn it
 
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