Fox News Debate (12/15) OFFICIAL Thread

[sevin]

TO ALL THOSE BEING PESSIMISTIC: You must not have been here long because we have had multiple reasons to be pessimistic over the last year and yet Ron Paul is polling better than ever! It's much more fun being optimistic, so get on board.

 

[jware]

Paul is about to get asked about the newsletters. Count on it!

 

[Frysia]

They are such big guilty liars, they can't even look straight in the camera

 

[mport1]

We all know that what Ron Paul says is true and right and needs to be said. However, he needs to come up with much better ways to articulate these ideas in a debate format.

 

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Yeah, as a pessimist we may have just lost Iowa.

That is ridiculous.

 

[Johncjackson]

Can some of you guys complete a sentence without the f* bomb? Remember those dang 500,000 brochures that were mailed out listing this place as a resource and think about how many Iowa Christians are going to be looking here.

I agree, but.. They were mailed only to Christians? Christians don't cuss? Guess the ones on Iowa are a lot different than the ones I know.

 

[trey4sports]

Unfortunately, you're right. Whatever chance Ron had to win Iowa is now gone. Why does he care more about being pure than winning an election? This is just sad and depressing.

neg rep.

You know better. Don't bring that shit into the forum.

 

[green73]

Bachmann is not a neocon. Geez, people. Stop calling everyone who doesn't agree with Paul about foreign policy, a neocon. It's not true and makes us look stupid.

Would theocon be better for you?

 

[demolama]

Ugh when you teach that WWI and WWII were completely unrelated events you get Neo-cons who think isolationism caused WWII

 

[devil21]

As usual, a deluge of low post members show up on the forum spreading negativity after a contentious debate segment....

The exchange was fine. Bachmann just sticks with the red meat sound bite talking points that have been spouted since 2001. Ron's policy is much more nuanced.

 

[Standing Liberty]

Bachman is one tear short of Tammy Fea Baker

 

[wgadget]

I'm not sure they were booing Paul...there was a bit of cross talk at the time, and I'm assuming it was OUR people booing Bachmann.

Yes. BUT, it won't stop the neocon shills from reporting it THEIR WAY. Creeps.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Bachmann is not a neocon. Geez, people. Stop calling everyone who doesn't agree with Paul about foreign policy, a neocon. It's not true and makes us look stupid.

Not sure how you can say she's not a neocon. Has the definition of neocon changed since this morning?

 

[eleganz]

I just don't get it. It's not like the Paul campaign doesn't know which foreign policy talking points work and which ones don't. His responses tonight on Iran were horribly weak and are going to cause some (I don't know how much) damage to his campaign. He recovered slightly, but there was way too much rambling and quotes which are perfect ammo for his opponents. Stick to talking about hundreds of bases worldwide. Stick to talking about how we can't afford this foreign policy. Stick to talking about how you get more money from troops than all other candidates combined! Stick to talking about how we stared down the Russians and the Chinese but can't stare down the Iranians? Every word the good doctor utters about 'of course they want one' does a horrible disservice to the non-interventionist position in this debate format. There's no time for complex ideas, use good strong talking points that get strong applause while maintaining your values!

This late in the campaign, there's no excuse for this!

On a lighter note, his non foreign policy answers have been great so far tonight.

seriously? more debate critique? wow nothing pleases you guys.

 

[pauliticalfan]

And of course they ignore RP after this.

 

[Ronulus]

I think he should have answer the "What if" with another "What if". "What if we nuked them today"? We can not stop them from getting a nuke unless we go to war.

 

[RonRules]

Remember that Ron is appealing to most Americans, independents, Blue Republicans, cross-over Democrats and even the rest of the world watching this debate.
With that in perspective, Ron is doing FANTASTIC.

 

[KingNothing]

I wish Ron would have just punted. Damn.

 

[Mckarnin]

Anybody else think this audience was packed according to Fox's desires?

yes.

 

[RonPaulRules]

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