Forum Question About Rand

[acptulsa]

Tell that to Cheney.

Rand ain't Dubya.

For one thing, he regularly speaks English.

For another, he doesn't think Elizabeth was queen in 1776...

 

[orenbus]

I'm not real thrilled at the moment about this whole "Iran with a nuke is a threat" thing coming from Rand Paul Inc. Hopefully it was just a staffer posting it.

Yea I don't get this one as well, if it was a staffer you would think they would have pulled the post by now if it actually was a conflict of stance on issues. At the same time listen to this interview in 2007 between 30:00 and 31:20.

http://www.wgtrmedia.com/uploads/6/4/1/4/6414999/121207paul.mp3

 

[Rudeman]

Depends on who it is.

 

[georgiaboy]

A party unifying move from recent history is to pick as VP one of the other top contenders in the race. Some folks run just to get the name recognition and support necessary to position them for the spot.

To that end, I was wondering about the possibility of a Carly Fiorina.

If he gets the nomination, I'll support him with bells on.

 

[fr33]

It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, assuming the VP isn't Graham, McCain, or Bolton. It would likely not be a neo-con. Probably just a damned "conservative".

 

[TaftFan]

A neocon or non-libertarian? (There is a difference)

If he chooses Tom Cotton I would not be pleased.

Not long after I say this I see this comment on FB:

 

[acptulsa]

After filling the religion subforum with stuff designed to scare socons away from here, we get this thread designed to elicit responses that would scare neocon sympathizers.

Charming.

Wesley Clark. Let the neocons try to slander and sling mud at Gen. Clark. Let anyone say he isn't a principled man.

Now let's see if the trolls try to let this thread die.

 

[Christian Liberty]

After filling the religion subforum with stuff designed to scare socons away from here, we get this thread designed to elicit responses that would scare neocon sympathizers.

Charming.

Wesley Clark. Let the neocons try to slander and sling mud at Gen. Clark. Let anyone say he isn't a principled man.

Now let's see if the trolls try to let this thread die.

This board is filled with political and religious compromise. Its sad. More concerned with winning than with principle.

 

[acptulsa]

This board is filled with political and religious compromise. Its sad. More concerned with winning than with principle.

Most of the people on this board want to get some principle into practice--even if it's just a little, so people can see that it works damned well--to try to make a positive difference in people's lives.

Only a few of the people want to argue in favor of remaining completely pure and completely ineffective, so that when they say...



...it requires three hours of sanctimoniousness and sounds just like this...

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

 

[TaftFan]

This board is filled with political and religious compromise. Its sad. More concerned with winning than with principle.

For some of us, winning is also a principle.

 

[TaftFan]

This board is filled with political and religious compromise. Its sad. More concerned with winning than with principle.

For some of us, winning is also a principle.

 

[acptulsa]

For some of us, winning is also a principle.

No, it isn't. Winning can allow you to enforce good principles for the benefit of many, or bad principles for the benefit of few. But winning can never, ever be a principle.

If this is as close as you can come to understanding what a principle is, that's a terrible shame.

 

[Sola_Fide]

After filling the religion subforum with stuff designed to scare socons away from here, we get this thread designed to elicit responses that would scare neocon sympathizers.

Charming.

Wesley Clark. Let the neocons try to slander and sling mud at Gen. Clark. Let anyone say he isn't a principled man.

Now let's see if the trolls try to let this thread die.

I'm trying to "scare socons away" now? Have you been drinking tonight?

 

[acptulsa]

I'm trying to "scare socons away" now? Have you been drinking tonight?

You're the one who hijacked a thread just to go off on Billy Graham. What was the intended effect, if not to alienate socons?

 

[Sola_Fide]

You're the one who hijacked a thread just to go off on Billy Graham. What was the intended effect, if not to alienate socons?

I don't remember that, but if I did do that I probably wasn't even concerned with politics at all. I rarely care about politics.

 

[acptulsa]

I don't remember that, but if I did do that I probably wasn't even concerned with politics at all. I rarely care about politics.

Well, that certainly explains why you started this thread, doesn't it?

 

[Sola_Fide]

Well, that certainly explains why you started this thread, doesn't it?

Yes. It's one of my rare political threads. Are you going to Rand's announcement in Louisville?

 

[Christian Liberty]

For some of us, winning is also a principle.

Not for me.

 

[Rudeman]

Kind of hard to apply your principles if you don't win. Whether electorally or otherwise.

 

[PierzStyx]

VP have so little real power I am not sure it will make much difference apart from the death of the President.

And there is the rub. If you think Rand is the right guy, maybe he wouldn't last that long in office before being "martyred" for the "cause."