Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan & Crash The Stock Market

[angelatc]

I don't care for the Unions or their tactics, but I would welcome this, if they did it.

We we will never be able to rebuild this country till it crashes .
or,,,

No way would freedom rush in to fill the void. Socialists used the depression and its after math to lay the groundwork for dependency. There's no way they'd let the chance to "help people" pass by again.

 

[PatriotOne]

I got news for you, it is already consolidated. And if you have to ask the 2nd question, then you are obtuse or haven't read a damn thing I have posted.


Well thats why education is the #1 goal. The economic collapse is already a certainty, it is what we do next that is the real question.

Clearly you never read the links or books you post about; because if you had you would already know that the IMF and Federal Reserve are just different nameplates in front of the same darn people.

This.

 

[angelatc]

You like Beck don't have alot of faith in the silent majority. You think we're just going to roll over and let the Unions and/or Wall Street just re-establish an even more tyrannical system?

Side me with Frank on this one. An event like that would be the end of the freedom movement.

 

[acptulsa]

Side me with Frank on this one. An event like that would be the end of the freedom movement.

No, I don't think so. It would more likely be an end to the Union. Most of the Louisiana Purchase could well secede at that point.

 

[pcosmar]

Side me with Frank on this one. An event like that would be the end of the freedom movement.

I don't take it serious. It is more likely propaganda games. The Fed is about out of time, and an Audit and investigation would have the same effect. The Fed would take their assets and run. The IMF will step in.
They will put the blame on any and everyone else.
Blame the Unions, Blame the Generals, Blame Ron Paul. They will blame everyone but the Bankers.

Crash it all, build it back decentralized. community by community.

 

[acptulsa]

Crash it all, build it back decentralized. community by community.

And it doesn't even require mass organization or any kind of premeditation, because you know they'll overstep. They'll try to make the new money plastic, millions of voices will cry out, 'What about my garage sales?!', and barter will come roaring back.

 

[pmbug]

There is an alternative - competing currencies. We don't have to crash and burn.

 

[angelatc]

No, I don't think so. It would more likely be an end to the Union. Most of the Louisiana Purchase could well secede at that point.

The federal government will not dismantle itself. Lincoln wouldn't let the south break off, and the ties to the federal government are stronger and more popular now than they were then. I think the opposite would happen - the states would be stripped of their governing power, and all their assets seized in the name of the common good.

What about the garage sales? With one big national police force, they'll more than likely evolve into underground garage sales.

 

[acptulsa]

The federal government will not dismantle itself.

Right. What I think is we need to keep our ears to the rail, keep seeing the crap coming, and keep inoculating minds against the stuff. They send up trial balloons, and we shoot them down. Then they know better than to press the issue. I've seen it happen a lot--even before the Liberty Movement as such began.

If they know we know they're full of it, they don't press the issue, and they don't because they don't want to dismantle themselves. There are still shreds of the Constitution hanging in there--they haven't canceled even the semblance of elections, for example--and they do fear it to some degree.

 

[AuH20]

I don't take it serious. It is more likely propaganda games. The Fed is about out of time, and an Audit and investigation would have the same effect. The Fed would take their assets and run. The IMF will step in.
They will put the blame on any and everyone else.
Blame the Unions, Blame the Generals, Blame Ron Paul. They will blame everyone but the Bankers.

Crash it all, build it back decentralized. community by community.

The great lie must perish. Government doesn't act in the interests of the people. Secondly, it cannot be salvaged in it's present form. I think it's a case of burning down the village in order to save a percentage of the residents. Once the government's authority in the national consciousness is compromised, I think we can start to rebuild. If that entails battling a disgruntled collection of collectivists for control in the aftermath, so be it.

 

[pcosmar]

The federal government will not dismantle itself. Lincoln wouldn't let the south break off, and the ties to the federal government are stronger and more popular now than they were then. I think the opposite would happen - the states would be stripped of their governing power, and all their assets seized in the name of the common good.

What about the garage sales? With one big national police force, they'll more than likely evolve into underground garage sales.

They will just keep going. Till it crashes. That national Police Force is not going to work unpaid.
Till then they will keep printing money. Till it is worthless.

 

[acptulsa]

They will just keep going. Till it crashes. That national Police Force is not going to work unpaid.
Till then they will keep printing money. Till it is worthless.

Oh yeah. Obviously. We were talking about what happens next.

 

[jmdrake]

I prefer Max Keiser's public plan to crash JPMorgan (encouraging people to buy physical silver). At least it transfers real power (wealth) to individuals.

Max Keiser is a socialist who loves French style universal healthcare[1] and once told Americans to "rise up" knowing that "Obama's got your back"[2].

[1] http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=129933.0
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=129929.0
http://www.theneweffort.com/topic5121.html


[2] http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?168911

 

[acptulsa]

Max Keiser is a socialist who loves French style universal healthcare and once told Americans to "rise up" knowing that "Obama's got your back".

I'd still like to see us wreck JPMCB.

 

[jmdrake]

I'd still like to see us wreck JPMCB.

I don't know enough about JPMCB to comment. But Max Kaiser is gutter slime for wanting to crash WholeFoods for its CEO basically pushing Ron Paul's healthcare reform plan. And I lost some respect for Alex Jones for not verbally kicking Kaiser's butt over that.

 

[pmbug]

jmdrake - I'm aware of MK's politics and I don't agree with them. He does, however, have some insights into Wall Street and post/say interesting things from time to time. The point of my earlier post was the silver market / JPM dynamic, not MK.

 

[FrankRep]

Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan & Crash The Stock Market

I remembered this thread when thinking of Occupy Wall Street.

 

[FrankRep]

Update!

October 7, 2011

How 'Occupy Wall Street' Was Organized From Day One by SEIU Front Group
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...as-Organized-From-Day-One-by-SEIU-Front-Group

 

[roho76]

All these people who want to crash the market and destroy capitalism will be dead after the collapse. These are the same people who don't believe in guns, they don't believe in real money and stocking up on it now, and they don't store food (at least enough for them to get by).

This is how it will play out:

The market will collapse, and they won't be able to buy anything with the money that they stole from everyone else through welfare schemes. They will then come to my house to take their "rights" from me. This will end horribly bad for them. I would say that within a year, everyone who thinks they have a right to things will die when their rights don't show up in the mailbox from the government and the only people who will survive will be those who believe in capitalism and took the necessary steps to protect themselves. Then we can start to return to capitalism after all the smug entitlement mentality has been washed from the earth.

The End

P.S. I can dream, right?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I know that's what they are trying to achieve, but no matter how hard they beat their fists and feet on the floor ... they'll fail. The Federal Reserve HAD to start-out with gold backed currency. The transition from the dollar as the world's reserve currency to something like the bancor as the reserve currency is much easier talked about than accomplished. Honesty and truth wins in the end.

Yes, but I remember reading that they were talking about backing their proposed world currency with gold. Of course, we wouldn't be able to exchange the paper money for that gold, but I'm sure the idea will placate a lot of people.