For those of you who don't know why Dr. Paul is not spending time/money in FL, here's why

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Re-quoting a great post from TulsaRevolution from the great thread How Ron Paul Wins the Nomination (full nomination schedule, delegate #'s, and analysis)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...nd-analysis)&p=3903555&viewfull=1#post3903555

Bright Green = Best Bang for the Buck
Dark Green = Better Bang for the Buck
Black = Good Bang for the Buck
Brown = OK Bang for the Buck
Dark Red = Meh Bang for the Buck
Bright Red = Worst Bang for the Buck

I did a sort of cost/benefit analysis as to which states have a better bang for your buck as far as focusing effort. Of course everyone should promote everywhere, but there are some huge discrepancies in the amount of delegates each state has and its population.

Why Population to Delegate ratio? Population defines the size of the marketplace you are competing in. The price in time and money spent in organizing locally, running TV and radio ads, getting signs visible, and good old word-of-mouth. The smaller the population in relation to the reward (delegates), the higher the value for the campaign. While we are fighting for likely Republican voters, it is the number of people in the marketplace that defines the price of advertising.

Each State that has a caucus I have noted, because that adds to the potential bang for our buck as we do better in caucuses.

My next project will be studying how each particular state handles its delegates and look for potential monkey wrenches.

Total Population 315695759
Total Delegates 2288
Majority 1145
Average Population Per Delegate 137978 <- The over/under

1/03/12 Iowa Est Pop. 3062309 / Delegates 28 == 109368 +Caucus
1/10/12 New Hampshire Est Pop. 1318194 / Delegates 12 == 109849
1/21/12 South Carolina Est Pop. 4679230 / Delegates 25 == 187169
1/31/12 Florida Est Pop. 19057542 / Delegates 50 == 381150 Worst ratio in the nation by far, nearly worthless
2/04/12 Nevada Est Pop. 2723322 / Delegates 28 == 97261 +Caucus
2/04/12 Maine Est Pop. 1328188 / Delegates 24 == 55341 +Caucus/ First bargain State
2/07/12 Colorado Est Pop. 5116796 / Delegates 36 == 142133 +Caucus
2/07/12 Minnesota Est Pop. 5344861 / Delegates 40 == 133621 +Caucus
2/28/12 Arizona Est Pop. 6482505 / Delegates 29 == 223534 This one is important for momentum even if the value per delegate is bad. 3/6 is the day with biggest potential and an AZ win would help the narrative leading into it.
2/28/12 Michigan Est Pop. 9876187 / Delegates 30 == 329206 Second Worst Value
3/03/12 Washington Est Pop. 6830038 / Delegates 43 == 158838+ Caucus
3/06/12 Alaska Est Pop. 722718 / Delegates 27 == 26767 + Caucus
3/06/12 Georgia Est Pop. 9815210 / Delegates 76 == 129147 Newt may get them temporarily, but he gives them back when he fails at the convention or drops out before it.
3/06/12 Idaho Est Pop. 1584985 / Delegates 32 == 49530 + Caucus
3/06/12 Massachusetts Est Pop. 6587536 / Delegates 41 == 160671
3/06/12 North Dakota Est Pop. 683932 / Delegates 28 == 24426 + Caucus
3/06/12 Ohio Est Pop. 11544951 / Delegates 66 == 174923
3/06/12 Oklahoma Est Pop. 3791508 / Delegates 43 == 88174
3/06/12 Tennessee Est Pop. 6403353 / Delegates 58 == 110402
3/06/12 Vermont Est Pop. 626431 / Delegates 17 == 36848
3/06/12 Virginia Est Pop. 8096604 / Delegates 50 == 161932 +Only us and Romney on the ballot here
3/06/12 Wyoming Est Pop. 568158 / Delegates 29 == 19591 + Caucus

3/6 is the day we potentially shock the world. 5 complete bargain states, and a medicore one with OK.

3/10/12 Kansas Est Pop. 2871238 / Delegates 40 == 71780 + Caucus
3/10/12 US Virgin Islands Est Pop. 109750 / Delegates 9 == 12194 + Caucus
3/10/12 Guam Est Pop. 178000 / Delegates 9 == 19777 + Caucus
3/10/12 N. Mariana Islands Est Pop. 53883 / Delegates 9 == 5987 + Caucus
3/13/12 Alabama Est Pop. 4802740 / Delegates 50 == 96054
3/13/12 American Samoa Est Pop. 55519 / Delegates 9 == 6168 + Caucus
3/13/12 Hawaii Est Pop. 1374810 / Delegates 20 == 68740 + Caucus
3/13/12 Mississippi Est Pop. 2978512 / Delegates 40 == 74462
3/17/12 Missouri Est Pop. 6010688 / Delegates 52 == 115590 Caucus
3/18/12 Puerto Rico Est Pop. 3706690 / Delegates 23 == 161160 + Caucus
3/20/12 Illinois Est Pop. 12869257 / Delegates 69 == 186510
3/24/12 Louisianna Est Pop. 4574836 / Delegates 46 == 99452 We had a good showing here in 2008
4/03/12 Maryland Est Pop. 5828289 / Delegates 37 == 157521
4/03/12 Texas Est Pop. 25674681 / Delegates155 == 165643
4/03/12 Washington D.C. Est Pop. 617996 / Delegates 19 == 32526
4/03/12 Wisconsin Est Pop. 5711767 / Delegates 42 == 135994
4/24/12 Connecticut Est Pop. 3580709 / Delegates 28 == 127882
4/24/12 Delaware Est Pop. 907135 / Delegates 17 == 53360
4/24/12 New York Est Pop. 19465197 / Delegates 95 == 204896
4/24/12 Pennsylvania Est Pop. 12742886 / Delegates 72 == 176984
4/24/12 Rhode Island Est Pop. 1051302 / Delegates 19 == 55331
5/08/12 Indiana Est Pop. 6516922 / Delegates 46 == 141672
5/08/12 North Carolina Est Pop. 9656401 / Delegates 55 == 175570
5/08/12 West Virginia Est Pop. 1855364 / Delegates 31 == 59850
5/15/12 Nebraska Est Pop. 1842641 / Delegates 35 == 52646
5/15/12 Oregon Est Pop. 3871859 / Delegates 29 == 133512
5/22/12 Arkansas Est Pop. 2937979 / Delegates 36 == 81610
5/22/12 Kentucky Est Pop. 4369356 / Delegates 45 == 97096 + Rand makes this one less difficult
6/05/12 California Est Pop. 37691912 / Delegates172 == 219139
6/05/12 Montana Est Pop. 998199 / Delegates 26 == 38392
6/05/12 New Jersey Est Pop. 8821155 / Delegates 50 == 176423
6/05/12 New Mexico Est Pop. 2082224 / Delegates 23 == 90531
6/05/12 South Dakota Est Pop. 824082 / Delegates 28 == 29431
6/26/12 Utah Est Pop. 2817222 / Delegates 40 == 70430

While I understand the strategy is much more complex than this (as certain states bind delegates differently, some proportionate to vote, some winner take all) I found an interesting statistic. I pulled all of the States & Territories with a ratio under 100,000 into a list. A population (marketplace) of 49,154,030 is represented by 779 delegates. That 49 million is 15% of the US population, but it gets you over two thirds (68%) of the delegates needed for a majority (1145/2288).

The official campaign should target its mass market spending on those bargain states. Grassroots should be active in places like Florida, but the delegate proportionality makes it a complete lack of value for the campaign's limited financial resources (as great as they will be as we donate generously).
 
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That's a great start

Do the over/under on expected turnout and you'd get a more refined picture. Add in data on media market cost(maybe a scale of 1-100), and it would be even better.
 
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So the narrative coming out of AZ makes it worthwhile... but FL...

I agree with that.. the narrative out of Florida has a bunch of states that are strung out over a month and we should do well in based on organization. We wouldn't get a media bump due to 3rd in FL. But if we get a 2nd in AZ, that will give a good narrative for 12 states immediately after it.

I suspect everyone will be putting big dollars into AZ, though, so it still might be better for the campaign to not spend ad money there and put money towards the green states on Mar 6
 
I agree with that.. the narrative out of Florida has a bunch of states that are strung out over a month and we should do well in based on organization. We wouldn't get a media bump due to 3rd in FL. But if we get a 2nd in AZ, that will give a good narrative for 12 states immediately after it.

I suspect everyone will be putting big dollars into AZ, though, so it still might be better for the campaign to not spend ad money there and put money towards the green states on Mar 6
If we were to win AZ we need to hit Tucson alot harder than Phoenix.Tucson and southern Arizona cities have more moderates/progressives.
 
+rep

Great job...interesting stuff. Although imperfect as a messure of value it does put much into perspective and gives an overall idea. Population doesnt always=turnout..PR had a turn out of a few hundred from what I hear..that has to count for something.

IMO this is a very smart way to go about winning with what you have...
 
I don't really understand the Florida/Arizona thing either. He says the former is nearly worthless because of the bad ratio, and then says the latter is worthwhile despite a bad ratio because of "narrative." Why does "narrative" matter for one and not the other?

Don't get me wrong, I think it was a good decision for the campaign to not spend money in Florida. I'm just failing to see why it would be different for Arizona. If the reasoning is "it's right before 3/6", wouldn't that make Washington a better choice? It's closer to 3/6, it has a better ratio, and it's a caucus.
 
Wow, it looks like there is a lot of potential on Super Tuesday. We have to stay strong and motivated throughout February to make sure we do well that day. If Ron Paul wins several states on Super Tuesday, it will change everything.
 
Wow, it looks like there is a lot of potential on Super Tuesday. We have to stay strong and motivated throughout February to make sure we do well that day. If Ron Paul wins several states on Super Tuesday, it will change everything.

i noticed massachusetts is missing i will tell you many dems are crossing over to vote for ron and i mean many!!!!!:cool:
 
FK Florida and I've lived here 3/4 of my life. Felony for a bag of pot in Fla. Look at the jerks supporting gingrich/romney/santorum. There's a lot of jerks in the country but there's a lot of them here, mostly transplants. Grrr.
 
I think MO should be moved up to green. It is open caucus now and the primary beforehand is a nonbinding straw poll. Almost nobody I have talked to in MO even realizes how/what/where for the caucus as its brand new for them. I expect almost no turnout at the MO caucus.
 
do the bargain states on 3/6 have unbound delegates or are they bound? i am curious which of them is advantageous for us
 
The perception of being a winner matters. That is who the majority of people vote for. Florida may be a sinkhole for campaign money, but a lot of people will make up their minds based on the results from these early states.
 
I disagree with their take on New Jersey. We stand a GREAT chance to WIN New Jersey. We have arou8nd 3.5 million and change registered Republicans. Around 4 million and change registered Democrats. We have over 9 MILLION registered Independents. That means those who are registered as Republicans are a small minority.

New Jersey CAN be in play folks. Also, we're neighbors to Delaware, Pennsylvania, Maryland and New York to draw support both logistically and financially for a real push to win all of our delegates.

SOMEONE PLEASE take this seriously!!!!!!!
 
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