For those looking for a food supply

[LibertyEagle]

Nope, it's owned by the place that my company leases lab space from, the government (ie a state-funded university).

Ok, so you're thinking stealing something from a state-funded university is somehow ok, right? Tell me, how is that is all that different from what is happening with the bailouts? The people's money is being stolen in both cases.

 

[tmosley]

Ok, so you're thinking stealing something from a state-funded university is somehow ok, right? Tell me, how is that is all that different from what is happening with the bailouts? The people's money is being stolen in both cases.

So you'd rather someone else take it, and have it sold for the value of the scrap, when it could be put to good use preserving food for the same people who paid for it?

I'm not talking about casually walking away with it during some rioting, I'm talking about taking something during a "Fall of Bagdad" type of event, when EVERYTHING in public buildings is going to get looted, vandalized, or otherwise destroyed.

 

[enjerth]

So you'd rather someone else take it, and have it sold for the value of the scrap, when it could be put to good use preserving food for the same people who paid for it?

I'm not talking about casually walking away with it during some rioting, I'm talking about taking something during a "Fall of Bagdad" type of event, when EVERYTHING in public buildings is going to get looted, vandalized, or otherwise destroyed.

I don't think that looting is a good plan. For starters, who exactly are you running with? The same people who will take what you've got. That is, if you actually find something worth looting.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I'm not talking about casually walking away with it during some rioting, I'm talking about taking something during a "Fall of Bagdad" type of event, when EVERYTHING in public buildings is going to get looted, vandalized, or otherwise destroyed.

Your decision. I wouldn't do it. To me, it doesn't seem much different from people looting stores after the hurricane in Louisiana. Again to me, it doesn't matter if everyone else is doing it, it doesn't make it right.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[lucius]

I bought a copy of Popular Mechanics May 1976 off ebay. On p. 112-113, it as an elaborate plan for a food dehydrator, which will give you many ideas. I am modifying one to use fluorescence light diffusers (2x4 foot, buy at Home Depot) to use as premade trays. Getting ready for that big garden. It is a pretty robust design with a blower, might be suitable for drying meat as well. I'll tell y'all how it turns out.

 

[Sandra]

We bought a food dehydrator from Bass Pro (all hail Bass Pro) and have been drying meats that were on sale. There's no way we could store it all in the freezer. We also have a Jerky Outlet store in Denham Springs that has the best cherrywood smoked beef. We used it to make some soup with the other stuff we dehydrated and it was the best soup we ever had!

 

[Acala]

Agreed

You won't last very long if you go around using firepower to take food from others. Everyone I know that is acquiring/stockpiling preps is also acquiring/stockpiling guns and ammo and learning how to use them.

It isn't going to take people very long to figure out that they need to organize local militias to protect their neighborhoods. The core of mine is already formed. The roads will be blocked and the people will be armed, alarmed, ready to kill strangers on sight, and post heads on highway. So someone with a survival strategy based on looting and robbery is not going to last very long. Just as well. I am hoping that the coming Time of Austerity will help purify our twisted culture and the elimination of thieves will fit with that theme very nicely.

 

[Acala]

Yup

I can do without refined sugar, milk and shortening, and I appreciate unleavened bread. Thus I would substitute a gallon each of olive and sesame oils, along with a green drink in powder form. If we're going to have a depression, may as well make it a healthy one.

Honey! Lots of it. Make a seed oil press with an hydraulic jack so you can make cooking oil from sunflowers and acorns. Get some chickens. Feed them weed seeds, scraps, and worms from your vermiculture.

Drink the rain. Eat the what nature provides. Help your neighbors. Live in peace.

 

[tmosley]

Honey! Lots of it. Make a seed oil press with an hydraulic jack so you can make cooking oil from sunflowers and acorns. Get some chickens. Feed them weed seeds, scraps, and worms from your vermiculture.

Drink the rain. Eat the what nature provides. Help your neighbors. Live in peace.

Get Tupelo honey if you can manage it. It doesn't crystalize like regular honey, so bulk storage is a lot more practical (a few 55 gallon drums ought to do).

 

[Elwar]

Don't forget to store lots and lots of porn on your own computer since your connection to the Internet might go down.

Oh, and solar panels...so you can watch the porn.

 

[Dr.3D]

Don't forget to store lots and lots of porn on your own computer since your connection to the Internet might go down.

Oh, and solar panels...so you can watch the porn.

Yeah, and it will also give the FEDs something to look at when they confiscate your computer.

 

[LibertyEagle]

We bought a food dehydrator from Bass Pro (all hail Bass Pro) and have been drying meats that were on sale. There's no way we could store it all in the freezer. We also have a Jerky Outlet store in Denham Springs that has the best cherrywood smoked beef. We used it to make some soup with the other stuff we dehydrated and it was the best soup we ever had!

If you don't mind me asking, which dehydrator did you get?

 

[angelatc]

Get Tupelo honey if you can manage it. It doesn't crystalize like regular honey, so bulk storage is a lot more practical (a few 55 gallon drums ought to do).

Can't I just get bees?

 

[angelatc]

I bought a copy of Popular Mechanics May 1976 off ebay. On p. 112-113, it as an elaborate plan for a food dehydrator, which will give you many ideas. I am modifying one to use fluorescence light diffusers (2x4 foot, buy at Home Depot) to use as premade trays. Getting ready for that big garden. It is a pretty robust design with a blower, might be suitable for drying meat as well. I'll tell y'all how it turns out.

Alton Brown made one out of a box fan and some furnace filters. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5912487412723519389

Oh yeah, bunjee cords!

 

[lucius]

Alton Brown made one out of a box fan and some furnace filters. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5912487412723519389

Oh yeah, bunjee cords!

Thanks!

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

On food driers - might want to read up on the commercial ones. Apparently some draw a lot of power and others very little. Also, temperature control is supposed to be important for "ideal" and quick drying.

Now for the rest of us... let me start by describing an evaporative cooler used as a refrigerator: make some square, wood frames like for a window pane, but instead of glass, tack down some hardware cloth / chicken wire on one side. suspend these one on top of the other from a common attachment point (4 wires coming down - one for each corner) and separate by how ever much you want your shelf height to be for how ever many shelves you want. Finally, suspend a pan or bucket of some sort underneath it and drape burlap over the outside so the ends of the burlap sit in the water bucket and wick water upward for evaporation.

For a food drier - get rid of the bucket and burlap and replace the latter with cheese cloth or window screen then hang somewhere in full sun.

Either or both is a pretty easy and low cost project. Probably the hardest part will be finding burlap.

-t

 

[nodope0695]

What about Spam?

Seriously, is that all you're storing?

Books on food storage recommend quality over quantity and a lot of variety.

 

[Danke]

I don't think she needs to worry about eating, especially spam.

 

[BuddyRey]

Don't forget to store lots and lots of porn on your own computer since your connection to the Internet might go down.

Oh, and solar panels...so you can watch the porn.

Doesn't anybody look at good old-fashioned analog porn anymore?

Real survivalists archive Hustlers!

 

[Dr.3D]

Real survivalists archive Hustlers!

Oh come on... Hustler? They never really show anybody being assaulted with a friendly weapon.