For Loyalists, Is It Ron Paul Or Nothing?

[Travlyr]

Gary talks about the Fed, have you even looked into him?

When I said nobody else is even talking about ending the fed, that is what I meant. Ending the Fed.
Yes, I've read Gary's platform, watched him in debates, and met him personally. He is a politician who wants to be president. It is not about liberty for him. Gary has not written about ending the Fed. Talk is cheap. Politicians talk.

Ron Paul walks the talk.

 

[amabala]

For Loyalists, Is It Ron Paul Or Nothing?



Amen brother. Amen.

Hell yea!! Fuck 'em!!!

 

[Butchie]

When I said nobody else is even talking about ending the fed, that is what I meant. Ending the Fed.
Yes, I've read Gary's platform, watched him in debates, and met him personally. He is a politician who wants to be president. It is not about liberty for him. Gary has not written about ending the Fed. Talk is cheap. Politicians talk.

Ron Paul walks the talk.

Ron is not trying to end the fed either. He wants it audited and to allow competing currencies. "End the Fed" is just a phrase, I hate the Fed but outright ending it at this time is not possible.

Gary also has a very good small govt record as Gov, he doesn't just talk.

 

[WilliamC]

Last election if I recall Ron Paul suggested voting for Chuck Baldwin instead of a write in campaign, so I did.

I will follow Ron Paul's lead again this time.

 

[Travlyr]

I will vote Gary Johnson ,since they will not count the write ins in colorado to my knowledge. I want gary johnson on the national debate stage to kick the status quo in the balls. It is very possible to hit the 15% mark for gary for the national debates. He is already polling 8-10% in general election. He is not to far off making the debates after the gop ignored him! When the gop marginalizes Ron paul. It will be my life long goal to marginalize the failed gop!

This is what amazes me about you my friend. I know you have devoted a bunch of time and effort into the liberty movement. I've read enough of your posts to learn that you are having financial difficulties. Yet, you are willing to support Gary Johnson. Gary Johnson is not determined to end the counterfeiters reign. They have evidently already stolen your wealth. They are coming after everybody's wealth. If you believe in freedom, then you must work diligently for sound money, fully redeemable. It is the only way.

"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the 'hidden' confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights." - Alan Greenspan, Gold and Economic Freedom

Ending the Fed is the only way to liberty, peace, and prosperity. Gary Johnson is not saying that, and he did not deliver it to New Mexico as a two term governor. I lived in New Mexico for a while and they are just as corrupt as ever.

 

[HigherVision]

Not sure what I'm gonna do yet.

 

[Travlyr]

Ron is not trying to end the fed either. He wants it audited and to allow competing currencies. "End the Fed" is just a phrase, I hate the Fed but outright ending it at this time is not possible.

Gary also has a very good small govt record as Gov, he doesn't just talk.

Have you read, "End The Fed" by Ron Paul? Competing currencies will end the fed.

 

[Drex]

Who we writing in as Ron Paul's VP?

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

When I said nobody else is even talking about ending the fed, that is what I meant. Ending the Fed.
Yes, I've read Gary's platform, watched him in debates, and met him personally. He is a politician who wants to be president. It is not about liberty for him. Gary has not written about ending the Fed. Talk is cheap. Politicians talk.

Ron Paul walks the talk.

I agree. This to me is just as much about Ron Paul as it is the Libertarian Party. I discovered I was a Libertarian because of Dr. Paul's success as a candidate. He is genuine in his beliefs and that is almost unheard of in politics. Ending the Fed and ending the wars isn't a given even with an alternative Libertarian candidate.

It's NOBP now and NOB____? later. It will likely be much later than sooner.

 

[Travlyr]

I agree. This to me is just as much about Ron Paul as it is the Libertarian Party. I discovered I was a Libertarian because of Dr. Paul's success as a candidate. He is genuine in his beliefs and that is almost unheard of in politics. Ending the Fed and ending the wars isn't a given even with an alternative Libertarian candidate.

It's NOBP now and NOB____? later. It will likely be much later than sooner.

Right. If ANY of the other candidates were pro sound money, then they would get my support. The wars are made possible by fiat money. Big government is made possible from fiat money. Excessive taxes and spending come with fiat money. The police state comes with fiat money. Debasement of currency funds tyranny, democide, and classism. Sound money produces liberty, peace, and prosperity. I will not vote for tyranny this year.

Sound money, fully redeemable, creates a free society. Ron Paul is the ONLY major candidate currently focused on that goal. He says it all the time and he has written about it for decades. I wish some of the other candidates understood liberty.

 

[revned]

No one but Ron Paul!

Unless Gary Johnson picks Paul as VP for his Libertarian run and Paul actually accepts.
I also somewhat hope that Johnson stays out of the race if Paul gets the Republican nomination.

Otherwise, I will write in my favorite guy, Ron Paul. Is there any way to get the ballot noterized? lol

 

[tod evans]

The wars are made possible by fiat money. Big government is made possible from fiat money. Excessive taxes and spending come with fiat money. The police state comes with fiat money. Debasement of currency funds tyranny, democide, and classism. Sound money produces liberty, peace, and prosperity. I will not vote for tyranny this year.

Sound money, fully redeemable, creates a free society. Ron Paul is the ONLY major candidate currently focused on that goal. He says it all the time and he has written about it for decades. I wish some of the other candidates understood liberty.

Just imagine if Washington had to actually had to have real money in hand before spending it.

We wouldn't be in the shape we're in.

Wonder how many politicians could even justify their salary if voters had to cough it up instead of just printing it.

 

[A. Havnes]

Ron Paul or nothing.

 

[Travlyr]

Just imagine if Washington had to actually had to have real money in hand before spending it.

We wouldn't be in the shape we're in.

Wonder how many politicians could even justify their salary if voters had to cough it up instead of just printing it.

Exactly. And their pensions and health care insurance would have to compete. Sound money is the key. That's the beauty of fiat money. They can take it right out of our bank accounts without asking. With sound money they have to knock on our doors and beg for money. When we finally get sound money implemented it will be fun to watch the politicians grovel at the door. "Hell no you can't have a raise." -- That'll be my response to them every time.

 

[georgiaboy]

For me, it's reducing government, or nothing.

In the GOP this cycle, that translates to Ron Paul. If any of the other candidates could be counted on to reduce government, I'd seriously pull for them, but they've told us they're not going to do that, and their records have proven they're not going to do that.

If RP doesn't get the GOP nomination, rather than risk not having my voice heard with a write-in, I'll pull the lever for a third party candidate to register my protest, just like I did in 2008.

great comments to the article linked in the OP, btw.

 

[Indy Vidual]

I'll probably vote for Gary Johnson or write Paul in.

Unless Paul or The Judge ends up running Indy.

Wait...
Running who?

 

[Tudo]

No one but Paul and never again will my voters reg have gop on it. NEVER again.

 

[azxd]

As a side note, I'd really like to have a Romney/Obama bumper sticker or t-shirt that is a mash of their two logos. I think that would adequately express my dissatisfaction with the likely selection of candidates.

http://www.libertystickers.com/product/Obama-Romney-2012-SH/

 

[azxd]

Last election if I recall Ron Paul suggested voting for Chuck Baldwin instead of a write in campaign, so I did.

I will follow Ron Paul's lead again this time.

I sure hope things are different this time.

 

[azxd]

For me, it's reducing government, or nothing.

In the GOP this cycle, that translates to Ron Paul. If any of the other candidates could be counted on to reduce government, I'd seriously pull for them, but they've told us they're not going to do that, and their records have proven they're not going to do that.

If RP doesn't get the GOP nomination, rather than risk not having my voice heard with a write-in, I'll pull the lever for a third party candidate to register my protest, just like I did in 2008.

great comments to the article linked in the OP, btw.

I think I'll drop a bit further off the grid.