For Everyone Here who Thinks Beck is Great

[jmdrake]

Ron Paul's speech, with Michele Bachmann

Ron Paul's speech, with Dennis Kucinich



Just because Ron Paul is cordial with someone, works with that person, and even co-authors legislation with him (as Dr. Paul has with Dennis Kucinich) doesn't mean that person is worthy of general support of the RP movement. And I'm not saying you're supporting Bachmann. But trying to imply she's some female Ron Paul light by some pictures and videos is ridiculous.

The problem with Bachmann.


"I think it wasn't explained well to members". Really? So Michelle thinks she's smarter than Ron Paul?

 

[payme_rick]

I think what you see with Beck is a manic depressant type who is torn between reason and his faith, which explains his conflicting views at times.

That's fine, I can understand that... but that supports most of us anti-Beckers' arguments here... he can't be trusted, because he cannot be consistant, and we don't care WHY he can't... he's just not...

I'd give him a little more room if every hardcore Beck-listener (not on RPF) I talk to in real life and on my facebook etc... weren't still hoping for Adam West to run, and a lot of 'em even wanting Rick Perry to run... of course they like Bachmann, but overall like West and Perry and hell, most of them along with me live in Ron Paul's district... Apparently, for all of that liberty he spreads, he hasn't been spreading it enough...

 

[Imaginos]

Snakes will be snakes.

 

[AuH20]

That's fine, I can understand that... but that supports most of us anti-Beckers' arguments here... he can't be trusted, because he cannot be consistant, and we don't care WHY he can't... he's just not...

I'd give him a little more room if every hardcore Beck-listener (not on RPF) I talk to in real life and on my facebook etc... weren't still hoping for Adam West to run, and a lot of 'em even wanting Rick Perry to run... of course they like Bachmann, but overall like West and Perry and hell, most of them along with me live in Ron Paul's district... Apparently, for all of that liberty he spreads, he hasn't been spreading it enough...

Beck is a work in progress. Whether he ever comes full circle remains to be seen, even despite his occasional flirtations. As far as I'm concerned I enjoy the fact that he is roughly 75% in our camp and promotes issues that build our strength. I don't get offended when professes his love to Jerusalem because I understand where he is coming from. I still may believe his position to be foolish and dangerous, but I'm not going to lose sleep about it.

 

[Carehn]

Just ignore him guys. Don't even go to his site any more. Hes on the down slide and it looks like he does not want to go down gracefully.

Sad really. Some people just snap when they get the 15 mins of fame. Beck just could not handle it.

 

[josh b]

Just ignore him guys. Don't even go to his site any more. Hes on the down slide and it looks like he does not want to go down gracefully.

Sad really. Some people just snap when they get the 15 mins of fame. Beck just could not handle it.

Yeah, Beck's not the most stable person in the world.

Bachmann also supported the Nancy Pelosi stimulus bill, 192 billion dollars in additional stimulus, the wars, and the Paul Ryan plan that would add tens of trillions to the deficit.

She may be closer to Paul's position than many of the other candidates but this record sucks. Unless she has massively changed her views then she's just not worth it as a candidate.

 

[purplechoe]

any chance Beck had with me vanished after his Medina interview...

she was even part of that scumbags 9/12 project... He makes Alex Jones look sane...

PS. I don't hate Alex, just not a fan of his delivery of the message...

 

[AuH20]

I respectfully disagree with Glenn here. Iran takes such an aggressive posture against Israel and it's western allies because they're deathly afraid of being another Iraq. So they puff out their chest in the most threatening fashion in order to project strength they really don't have:

http://www.therightscoop.com/beck-ron-paul-is-dead-wrong-about-the-middle-east/

 

[jmdrake]

I respectfully disagree with Glenn here. Iran takes such an aggressive posture against Israel and it's western allies because they're deathly afraid of being another Iraq. So they puff out their chest in the most threatening fashion in order to project strength they really don't have:

http://www.therightscoop.com/beck-ron-paul-is-dead-wrong-about-the-middle-east/

Yep. Not only are they afraid of being another Iraq, but now they're afraid of being another Libya. Iraq tried to cooperate with the west on ending their WMD programs. Libya did cooperate. Look where that got Libya? By contrast North Korea has played hardball and they've been largely left alone. +rep.

 

[ExPatPaki]

Yep. Not only are they afraid of being another Iraq, but now they're afraid of being another Libya. Iraq tried to cooperate with the west on ending their WMD programs. Libya did cooperate. Look where that got Libya? By contrast North Korea has played hardball and they've been largely left alone. +rep.

And according to an earlier post of yours, Iran did try to cooperate as well:

1) In 2003 Iran was the only Muslim country to help us fight and remove the Taliban from power.

See: Jane's Defense Weekly India joins anti-Taliban coalition. "India is believed to have joined Russia, the USA and Iran in a concerted front against Afghanistan's Taliban regime.

See also: PBS Frontline - Showdown with Iran : A slap in the face from America

2) In 2003 Iran's previous president Mohammed Khatami sent through back channels an offer to end support for Hamas and Hezbollah, end its nuclear program and end hostility with Israel in exchange for security guarantees. The Bush administration never even responded to the fax.

See: PBS Frontline The Grand Bargain Fax - A missed opportunity?

See Also: NY Times Iran's proposal for a grand bargain

 

[sparebulb]

It is obvious that AuH20 is Beck's number one fan. Let's just hope that Glenn decides to spend a lot more time up at AuH20's cabin.