For Everyone Here who Thinks Beck is Great

[FrankRep]

 

[AuH20]

Great photo. If Bachmann is so bad as many attest, Ron would have gone out of his way to attack her, in the manner he spoke stridently against Governor Perry.

 

[payme_rick]

Ron didn't go out of his way to attack Romney, Cain, Newt or Huntsman last night, so I guess they're not half-bad either.. And you've gotta love that Patriot Act!

And AUH20, Glenn's not done yet... Just wait for the Perry love, because Perry's that old flame that he just can't put out... it's coming... pretty sure we'll get some random photo of Perry and Paul shaking hands, and some kind of weak defense from you guys as to why Glenn failed to endorse the true libertarian platform...

 

[Napolitanic Wars]

I think the time of the Beck defenders has long passed. I've not heard anything from them in a long time.

That came and went for me too. I didn't understand why RP people didn't like Beck when he was talking about all the right stuff. But really he would rarely talk about the right stuff (and promote it to get TEA Party viewers) then talk about useless garbage the rest. It's so sad that "TEA Party" Beck had Rand on his show way less than establishment Hannity.

 

[jmdrake]

Gimme a freaking break. Bachmann is basically a Paul acolyte and only disagrees with Paul on foreign policy issues related to Israel and the threat of Islamic fundamentalists. All the posters in here make it like Bachmann is a foreign alien compared to Paul, when they agree on 85% of the same issues. I read the same crap on Free Republic from the hawks who swear that Ron is an unapologetic leftist who is completed detached from the Republican mold. Both voted against TARP as a minority in the house, both voted for auditing the Fed, both voted against the Debt Ceiling deal, both are fiercely opposed to ENDING Obamacare as opposed to the Republican credo of REPEAL & REPLACE, etc. I'm certainly not saying that Bachmann is a great candidate but she and Paul are very similar.

Now Santorum is Santorum. He's far out there.

Need I remind you that Bachman supports the Patriot Act? What does that have to do with foreign policy or supporting Israel?

 

[jmdrake]

 

[payme_rick]

And the fact that Beck would want to pick Santorum over Paul clearly tells you how far away from being a true libertarian, and truely being a freedom supporter Beck really is...

 

[AuH20]

Need I remind you that Bachman supports the Patriot Act? What does that have to do with foreign policy or supporting Israel?

The Patriot Act was enacted to prevent the coordination of a terrorist attack in this country by a foreign force. Some politicians erred on the side of caution by backing it instead of taking the long view. Despite popular belief, you can be principled and find reasons to support the Patriot Act. You don't need a nefarious motive to support the Patriot Act.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Bachmann also supported the Nancy Pelosi stimulus bill, 192 billion dollars in additional stimulus, the wars, and the Paul Ryan plan that would add tens of trillions to the deficit.

 

[FrankRep]

Ron Paul's speech, with Michele Bachmann

 

[AuH20]

Ron didn't go out of his way to attack Romney, Cain, Newt or Huntsman last night, so I guess they're not half-bad either.. And you've gotta love that Patriot Act!

And AUH20, Glenn's not done yet... Just wait for the Perry love, because Perry's that old flame that he just can't put out... it's coming... pretty sure we'll get some random photo of Perry and Paul shaking hands, and some kind of weak defense from you guys as to why Glenn failed to endorse the true libertarian platform...

I can disagree with Beck. I know where Beck stands in relation to his spiritual faith. He places a priority on Israel and some social issues. That's his prerogative. We can co-exist as opposed to Rush Limbaugh who went as far to equate Ron Paul as a poison to the GOP.

 

[YumYum]

Maybe Beck and Santorum can be battle buddies in the Israeli army since they care so much about Israel.

True, and this is what divides politics. It's not the issues, but whether you support, back and stand by Israel. And yet, Ron becoming president could be the best thing that ever happens to Israel.

 

[payme_rick]

I don't care what Glenn Beck's faith is... he places "some social issues" and "Israel" as a priority for our government and according to his two presidential picks (until Perry, of course), he's somewhere in between Santorum and Michelle... he's not a libertarian and apparently, that train that was leading him to being "more and more like Ron Paul every day" finally ran out of track...

 

[AuH20]

Bachmann also supported the Nancy Pelosi stimulus bill, 192 billion dollars in additional stimulus, the wars, and the Paul Ryan plan that would add tens of trillions to the deficit.

This is where the rubber meets the road. Disparage this. Bachmann's record holds up to scrutiny on the critical issues.

- She voted against the first proposed $700 billion bailout of financial institutions, which failed to pass 205–228. She also advocated breaking up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and barring executives from excessive compensation or golden parachutes. However, she also advocated a plan that would suspend mark-to-market accounting rules and supported suspending the capital gains tax.[80]

- On March 26, 2009, following comments by China proposing adoption of a global reserve currency, Bachmann introduced a resolution calling for a constitutional amendment to bar the dollar from being replaced by a foreign currency. Current law prohibits foreign currency from being recognized in the U.S., but Bachmann expressed concerns relating to the President's power to make and interpret treaties.[92]

- Soon after being sworn in to her third term Bachmann introduced legislation to repeal the Dodd-Frank financial reform law.

- In the Minnesota Senate, Bachmann opposed minimum wage increases.[142] In an interview in late June 2011, Bachmann did not back away from her earlier proposal to eliminate the federal minimum wage, a change she said would "virtually wipe out unemployment."[143]

- She also voted for the audit of the Fed.



And this is the woman who is Satan Incarnate around here? Please!!!!! I'm not advocating to send her money but the hyperbole and fear mongering has to cease.

 

[AuH20]

I don't care what Glenn Beck's faith is... he places "some social issues" and "Israel" as a priority for our government and according to his two presidential picks (until Perry, of course), he's somewhere in between Santorum and Michelle... he's not a libertarian and apparently, that train that was leading him to being "more and more like Ron Paul every day" finally ran out of track...

Glenn's faith places a predominant role in his world view. That's why Santorum is his second choice. I don't agree with his perspective but I understand it.

 

[specsaregood]

(I used to like Beck, but that was before he was on TV.) However, Beck might like RP more had he not received numerous death threats from RP supporters during the last election.

And you are sure that actually happened? How? You ever hear of anybody arrested for it? Surely, serious death threats wouldn't go unpunished, right.
Or was it just a gotcha moment made up by a blatant liar?

 

[payme_rick]

Glenn's faith places a predominant role in his world view. That's why Santorum is his second choice.

I understand that... which is why he is who he is, and it is no friend of true liberty... no matter WHY he feels that way, I could give two, three shits... he is who he is, is the point... is

 

[AuH20]

I understand that... which is why he is who he is, and it is no friend of true liberty... no matter WHY he feels that way, I could give two, three shits... he is who he is, is the point... is

I think what you see with Beck is a manic depressant type who is torn between reason and his faith, which explains his conflicting views at times.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Bachmann votes with Ron 77% of the time, and with Boehner and Cantor 95% and 94% of the time. Also in the course of that 77%, she departs on major, major issues, like Bush's stimulus, PATRIOT Act, Ryan's budget (which would have raised the debt ceiling for decades), and foreign policy.

Her actions speak louder than her words.

 

[jmdrake]

The Patriot Act was enacted to prevent the coordination of a terrorist attack in this country by a foreign force. Some politicians erred on the side of caution by backing it instead of taking the long view. Despite popular belief, you can be principled and find reasons to support the Patriot Act. You don't need a nefarious motive to support the Patriot Act.

You don't need a "nefarious motive" to support Obamacare either. You don't need a "nefarious motive" to have supported the bailouts. Some people are just ignorant. And I'm not blaming Michelle Bachmann for supporting the Patriot act back in 2003 when people hadn't actually read it. I'm blaming her for supporting it in 2011 when people have had a chance to read it, digest it, and see it put into action against the American people. In 2011 if you truly believe in liberty and limited government and you support the Patriot Act then you are brain dead end of story.

Edit: And for the record, it's naive to think that the Patriot Act was "enacted to prevent the coordination of a terrorist attack in this country by a foreign force". The major provisions of the Patriot Act were proposed by Bill Clinton before 9/11 when the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history was (supposedly) carried out by American Tim McVeigh. The Patriot Act has always been aimed at Americans.