Flipping the vote against Ron Paul in South Carolina?

[Liberty1789]

 

[Barrex]

But Mitts line is going up before "Anomalous surge" too.(from cca. 15% to 54% when "Anomalous surge" begins).

debunk :
Why steal votes if they are not deciding place in the race?

Maybe because every percent means more delegates...

 

[Liberty1789]

 

[bcreps85]

But Mitts line is going up before "Anomalous surge" too.(from cca. 15% to 54% when "Anomalous surge" begins).

debunk :
Why steal votes if they are not deciding place in the race?

Maybe because every percent means more delegates...

Well, several reasons...

1. This isn't a sophisticated algorithm or it wouldn't have been detected (if that is what is going on). As stated previously, it isn't meant to reverse a landslide...that would be too obvious, even without all of this statistical analysis.

2. Remember when Ron Paul was second in NH? He was considerably down there...now what if Romney was 36% and Paul was 34%? That kind of draws a different narrative about the supposed front-runners dominance, doesn't it?

3. Remember Romney's second in SC? Well...what if he was third and Paul was second? Hell, what if it just made Paul 3rd and Santorum 4th? That could have been the nail in his coffin. It doesn't have to make someone first to change the narrative...

4. What about states where you have to get a percentage of the vote to be eligible for proportionately awarded delegates? Anywhere Paul finished around 10-12% could have easily been 15% otherwise...meaning delegates were taken from him by the algorithm in any case like this.

I'm sure there are more, just some quick observations.

 

[Liberty1789]

 

[affa]

Well, several reasons...

1. This isn't a sophisticated algorithm or it wouldn't have been detected (if that is what is going on). As stated previously, it isn't meant to reverse a landslide...that would be too obvious, even without all of this statistical analysis.

2. Remember when Ron Paul was second in NH? He was considerably down there...now what if Romney was 36% and Paul was 34%? That kind of draws a different narrative about the supposed front-runners dominance, doesn't it?

3. Remember Romney's second in SC? Well...what if he was third and Paul was second? Hell, what if it just made Paul 3rd and Santorum 4th? That could have been the nail in his coffin. It doesn't have to make someone first to change the narrative...

4. What about states where you have to get a percentage of the vote to be eligible for proportionately awarded delegates? Anywhere Paul finished around 10-12% could have easily been 15% otherwise...meaning delegates were taken from him by the algorithm in any case like this.

I'm sure there are more, just some quick observations.

Agreed with all, but also:

They may have the code in place before they know the exact results.

 

[The Man]

Remember that precincts can have more than a single voting machine. If the manipulation is being performed inside the EVM firmware (I'm not saying this is the case), this can create what I have termed an algorithm "harmonic". For example in my plots of total votes vs. votes each candidate starting with smallest vote precincts, I would often see a sudden slope change at a vote total that would correspond to a precinct vote count of, say, 250 votes. Another slope increase would often happen at around 450- 600 votes. I speculated that in the precincts with 2 machines, the algorithm wouldn't engage until 500 (2 X 250) 3 machines@ 750 (3X 250) and so on. It could be interesting to know how many voting machines were used at each precinct and to create separate graphs based on how many EVM's were used at the the precincts. Differences in the 1, 2, 3, or 4 machines per precinct graphs could potentially reveal if this manipulation is in the EVM itself.

 

[bbwarfield]

Remember that precincts can have more than a single voting machine. If the manipulation is being performed inside the EVM firmware (I'm not saying this is the case), this can create what I have termed an algorithm "harmonic". For example in my plots of total votes vs. votes each candidate starting with smallest vote precincts, I would often see a sudden slope change at a vote total that would correspond to a precinct vote count of, say, 250 votes. Another slope increase would often happen at around 450- 600 votes. I speculated that in the precincts with 2 machines, the algorithm wouldn't engage until 500 (2 X 250) 3 machines@ 750 (3X 250) and so on. It could be interesting to know how many voting machines were used at each precinct and to create separate graphs based on how many EVM's were used at the the precincts. Differences in the 1, 2, 3, or 4 machines per precinct graphs could potentially reveal if this manipulation is in the EVM itself.

keep in mind that all of the votes are sent to a central tabulation system before being sent back to the precinct.... the algorith could be in the cards, machines, tabulation server.... so many places to hide

 

[Mark37snj]

I finished with the thread summaries. BIG thanks to Kathy88 who converted it to pdf format. I combined both threads into one summary with the second thread following the first. I focused on including posts from our stat team and those they responded to and a few others I felt were relevant. It needed to be slimed down more, it's almost 200 pages, but I didn't want to cut any more posts because I felt that they were relevant. There was just so much information on both threads and it was very difficult to even get the summary this small.


Significant Evidence of Algorithmic Vote Flipping in the 2012 GOP Primary

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumdkE4d0Y2eWtURTZ2eDM5RmlLc3ZhQQ/edit

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumRG01cl9hdlNReHFobWMyYXdLV2ZyUQ/edit

Evidence of Algorithmic Vote Flipping in GOP Primary Elections Layman's Executive Summary

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumZzI2bVlON2VTMnFyYVZZSnpDYnNyQQ/edit

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumc2NSLXJab0pRWXFiYnEwbnpKMEZUUQ/edit

Original South Carolina Google docs

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_wWkfsJPShUMWQxMTc2NzgtM2MzYy00ZGJhLWI1MmYtMWU2ZGU1OWZkZjhk/edit

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_wWkfsJPShUOGRmYjdlN2YtZDY5Zi00YjkwLTg3NDUtNDIwNjYwZjkyY2Iw/edit