First US case of Ebola

[tangent4ronpaul]

This isn't giving me confidence...

A Liberian national hops on a plane on the 19th, arrives here on the 20th.
4 days later he starts developing symptoms (becomes contagious)
2 days later he's really not feeling good so goes to the ER... They kick him loose (facepalm)
2 days later either he comes back on his own or guys in bunnysuites show up at his door and drag him in - unknown which.
so after wandering around for 4 days when contagious he lands in isolation. They do a test and it comes back positive today.

The only up side here is that he only had contact with a dozen or two people those 4 days (+everyone in the ER first visit).
So the plus side is they can probably stop it with contact tracing.

-t

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I'm not unconcerned about it. I expect there will be deaths here in the U.S. from Ebola. It sucks to be those people and their loved ones. I don't expect it will wipe out half of the country, no. Just enough deaths to take away more civil liberties? sure.

No problems. If anyone in your household is running a fever, you will be escorted to your quarantine camp.

 

[donnay]

I'm not unconcerned about it. I expect there will be deaths here in the U.S. from Ebola. It sucks to be those people and their loved ones. I don't expect it will wipe out half of the country, no. Just enough deaths to take away more civil liberties? sure.

Bring Martial Law as well.

 

[cajuncocoa]

No problems. If anyone in your household is running a fever, you will be escorted to your quarantine camp.

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Except they'll be wearing bunny suits while toting the guns.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Bring Martial Law as well.

That's crazy talk! That would never happen in the USSA. Well, except for maybe New Orleans. And Boston. Dallas next?

 

[donnay]

CDC Warns Funeral Homes in U.S. to Prepare For Ebola Victims
Recommendations caution workers not to embalm corpses

by Paul Joseph Watson | September 30, 2014

The Centers for Disease Control is advising funeral homes in the United States on how to handle the remains of Ebola victims, although officials are keen to stress that the development is not a cause for alarm.

(Video)

A three page list of recommendations instructs funeral workers to wear protective gear while handling Ebola victims, as well as warning them not to carry out autopsies or to embalm corpses.

“If the outbreak of the potentially deadly virus is in West Africa, why are funeral homes in America being given guidelines?” asks WFSB.com.

Last night it was revealed that a Dallas hospital is holding a potential Ebola victim in “strict isolation” after the patient was admitted based on symptoms and “recent travel history.”

Alysia English, Executive Director of the Georgia Funeral Directors Association, dismissed suggestions that Americans should be alarmed by the recommendations.

“Absolutely not. In fact, if they weren’t hearing about it, they should be a whole lot more concerned,” said English.

As we reported earlier this month, the U.S. State Department ordered 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits, prompting concerns that officials were preparing for an outbreak within the United States.

While Ebola has so far been confined to the continent of Africa, speculation has arisen that the virus could have gone airborne to at least a limited extent.

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[TheCount]

Don't allow flights

Who should do this?

Who makes the decision?

How would you prevent someone from, say, flying to an adjacent city in Canada, Mexico, or the Caribbean and then taking a connecting flight into the states?

Don't allow anyone who's passport has a stamp from an Ebola country into the US.

You think that we should prohibit US citizens from entering the US?

 

[XNavyNuke]

Who should do this?

Who makes the decision?

Under the Public Health Service Act of 1944, the Surgeon General has sole authority to make and enforce quarantine. Unless you are from the WW2 generation you have no personal experience with large quarantines.

You think that we should prohibit US citizens from entering the US?

If their passport has a stamp from a known country less than 90 days old, yes. House them at the Federal facility on Plum Island until they clear.

XNN

 

[johnwk]

Once again the CDC misleads the public about the spread of Ebola

Today on FoxNews during the CDC’s press conferences the public was repeatedly misled about the spread of the Ebola virus. It was asserted a number of times that the spread of the Ebola virus is not spread through the air and one must come in contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person to contract the virus.

Well, it may be technically accurate to say that one must come in contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person to contract the virus. However, if an infected person coughs or sneezes onto an open wound of another individual, that individual does come in contact with the body fluids of the infected person and the bodily fluids were transmitted through the air! So, why is the CDC asserting the Ebola virus cannot be spread through the air? Do they not consider a person who comes in contact with an infected person's bodily fluids which are transmitted by a cough or sneezing something other than an airborne transmission? If so, what is the technical term used to describe transmission of bodily fluids by coughing and sneezing?


JWK

 

[69360]

Who should do this?

Who makes the decision?

How would you prevent someone from, say, flying to an adjacent city in Canada, Mexico, or the Caribbean and then taking a connecting flight into the states?




You think that we should prohibit US citizens from entering the US?

Yes, we should prohibit citizens from re-entering if they traveled there.

Checking passports for stamps should catch most even if they stopped somewhere else first. Obviously it won't be perfect.

Homeland and CBP can do it. It wouldn't be particularly difficult.

 

[Carlybee]

TSA would rather harass Americans.. than to maybe screen people who traveled from West Africa into USA. lol.

Lovely.. diseases from Africa and Central/South America. Anyone reading about the respiratory disease with polio like symptoms recently?

Their idea of screening is using the same pair of gloves for every crotch grab

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Personally I'd recommend a 24 day quarantine on entry, only for persons who have been inside the plague zone in the last month. It would seem that it takes 21 days for symptoms to manifest, so this would bullet-proof guarantee that it never made to the wild in the US. Just add the disclosure to flights/boats and such into the US, that if they have been inside an Ebola zone in the last month, then they will be quarantined for 24 days on entry. Have them agree to it specifically to get on the airplane, or if they do not agree they can spend a month away from a plague zone before coming to the US and then they can bypass the quarantine. This power would come from the power to regulate foreign commerce (travel being a form of commerce) for which I think a quarantine lasting only the length of Ebola incubation (or long enough to be certain it is not present) is a reasonable measure. Congress does have the power to prevent the transmission of foreign sicknesses into the US via private and commercial travel, given the original contemporary definition of 'commerce' included private and commercial travel.

I don't really like it, but I don't see a Constitutional violation, and I do believe it is a reasonable measure for travellers to the US who have recently been in direct contact with Ebola infected areas to make sure they are not infected before cutting them loose into the wild.

Forum anarchists will despise me but whatever. I never claimed to be an anarchist, I am a Constitutionalist

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Political correctness has stopped any ideas of quarantine. We'll see what that will bring.

And later in the thread:

No problems. If anyone in your household is running a fever, you will be escorted to your quarantine camp.

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Is 'Brian4Liberty' a handle that a few different people use to post under or something?

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Personally I'd recommend a 24 day quarantine on entry, only for persons who have been inside the plague zone in the last month. It would seem that it takes 21 days for symptoms to manifest, so this would bullet-proof guarantee that it never made to the wild in the US. Just add the disclosure to flights/boats and such into the US, that if they have been inside an Ebola zone in the last month, then they will be quarantined for 24 days on entry. Have them agree to it specifically to get on the airplane, or if they do not agree they can spend a month away from a plague zone before coming to the US and then they can bypass the quarantine. This power would come from the power to regulate foreign commerce (travel being a form of commerce) for which I think a quarantine lasting only the length of Ebola incubation (or long enough to be certain it is not present) is a reasonable measure. Congress does have the power to prevent the transmission of foreign sicknesses into the US via private and commercial travel, given the original contemporary definition of 'commerce' included private and commercial travel.

I don't really like it, but I don't see a Constitutional violation, and I do believe it is a reasonable measure for travellers to the US who have recently been in direct contact with Ebola infected areas to make sure they are not infected before cutting them loose into the wild.

Forum anarchists will despise me but whatever. I never claimed to be an anarchist, I am a Constitutionalist

If that's how supposed constitutionalists view the document, why should people like myself take it seriously at all? Wasn't the whole point that if something isn't clearly stated in the document, that the government doesn't have the authority to undertake such an action? Please educate me as to the differences between what you did in this post and what progressives argue with welfare and any number of government action to combat [insert problem here].

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Do they not consider a person who comes in contact with an infected person's bodily fluids which are transmitted by a cough or sneezing something other than an airborne transmission? If so, what is the technical term used to describe transmission of bodily fluids by coughing and sneezing?

JWK

Droplet spread.

think about it this way: Technically there is a difference. Airborne is your sick and breathe out. viri in your lungs floats around, gets sucked up into a ventilation duct and some pour sucker 4 doors downs gets sick. droplet is more like it had the dispersal characteristics of a spit wad shooter. if flies and lands somewhere. if that's someones eye or they touch where it landed and their hand ends up at their mouth, they get sick.

-t

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm not unconcerned about it. I expect there will be deaths here in the U.S. from Ebola. It sucks to be those people and their loved ones. I don't expect it will wipe out half of the country, no. Just enough deaths to take away more civil liberties? sure.

That.

That is all you need to know.

Assuming this is not the start of the zombie apocalypse, nothing of any great importance will come out of this except for the loss of more liberty.

 

[idiom]

 

[MelissaWV]

Symptons My God. It's worse than I thought.

 

[Dr.3D]

Seems like they should quarantine those identified persons for a full 21 days. If they don't, what's to keep them from passing it on to more persons to be identified at a future date?

 

[Carlybee]

Well I'm stocking up on immune building stuff and stuff with antiviral properties anyway.