First-ever private border wall built in New Mexico

[Danke]

A wall or patrols will not be 100% effective, they don't have to be.

We do have too many communists here already, that is why we have to do everything we can to keep them from importing enough reinforcements to destroy any chance we have of restoring liberty.

If I could split California off from the union and keep them from coming in I would and I want troops patrolling the northern border too.

It IS OUR COUNTRY, our ancestors built it and left it to us as their gift to us and we have a responsibility to them and to our descendants to keep it from being destroyed. (particularly at the hands of foreigners)

We can't return to being a country ruled by constitutional law and not a welfare state that drains the middle class of its wealth to grow the divide between the obscenely wealthy and the poor if we allow our native communists to import unlimited reinforcements.

If we ever do restore liberty and a booming economy we can share it with some immigrants but we will have a responsibility to limit their numbers and the cultures we allow them from to preserve liberty and a booming economy.

They are coming for our economy that is much better than theirs and if we didn't have a welfare state they would vote for one, that is what previous waves of immigrants did.
And in any case they come here and vote to keep and expand the welfare state and if we allow them too we will never be able to eliminate it.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.

 

[asurfaholic]

We have a problem with people coming here illegally from Canada?

Have you ever observed water flowing down a hill?

What happens when you put an obstacle at some point in that flow of water? Does all the water just flow back up the hill? Na, it goes around or eventually over the obstacle. My point isn’t that we need a northern wall, but at what point do we stop building walls?

Leave food crumbs and trash everywhere in your house, and tape off every opening you can find. You will still get roaches.

 

[Danke]

Have you ever observed water flowing down a hill?

What happens when you put an obstacle at some point in that flow of water? Does all the water just flow back up the hill? Na, it goes around or eventually over the obstacle. My point isn’t that we need a northern wall, but at what point do we stop building walls?

Leave food crumbs and trash everywhere in your house, and tape off every opening you can find. You will still get roaches.

Such a great analogy...

 

[asurfaholic]

Thanks I thought it was pretty danke myself.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Have you ever observed water flowing down a hill?

What happens when you put an obstacle at some point in that flow of water? Does all the water just flow back up the hill? Na, it goes around or eventually over the obstacle. My point isn’t that we need a northern wall, but at what point do we stop building walls?

Leave food crumbs and trash everywhere in your house, and tape off every opening you can find. You will still get roaches.

If you put enough levees in the path of flowing water it will find other places to flow.

We do need to clean up the food trash but we need to close the doors and windows too.

 

[Swordsmyth]

We have a problem with people coming here illegally from Canada?

Illegal crossings on the northern border are up 40% this year.

We need to tackle the problem from all angles but Trump can only do so much with an uncooperative Congress.

 

[Danke]

Illegal crossings on the northern border are up 40% this year.

We need to tackle the problem from all angles but Trump can only do so much with an uncooperative Congress.

Up 40%, what does that make it? A couple of dozen?

I use to cross the Canadian boarder in a canoe. Just need permission if I was going to stay the night.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Up 40%, what does that make it? A couple of dozen?

True, it is a lot harder for people to go to Canada first and then cross into America, anything that makes the invasion harder is a good thing that will reduce the numbers.
But many people are coming from over the ocean to Mexico before entering across our southern border so they might switch to Canada if we don't decrease incentives and secure the Canadian border with increased patrols.

 

[Swordsmyth]

New Mexico Mayor orders We Build The Wall to stop, says there are no permits and no city approval for the private wall they put up. Group says all permits are in order and inspection was done. What probably happened is the landowner made it sound like a private fence, and it got approval. Now they realize it was to stop migrants, and they are up in arms.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Do we have a wall separating Canada from US?

Do we have a wall separating the ocean from the coasts?

Where does it stop?

Why do we need a wall? What are we trying to keep in or out?

Asia is now our biggest source of immigration. We need a Great Wall Of China (and India)!

(The asylum seekers are not sneaking across anyways- they are knocking on the door and legally asking to be let in).

 

[Swordsmyth]

Asia is now our biggest source of immigration. We need a Great Wall Of China (and India)!

No, we need to stop granting them visas and greencards.

(The asylum seekers are not sneaking across anyways- they are knocking on the door and legally asking to be let in).

Most are sneaking across and applying for asylum when caught but we do need to reform our ridiculously generous asylum laws, we can't afford to let every down on their luck person from the entire globe come here.

 

[asurfaholic]

If you put enough levees in the path of flowing water it will find other places to flow.

We do need to clean up the food trash but we need to close the doors and windows too.

If our out of control welfare state doesn’t get fixed soon, the levees will break.

Close the doors and windows, but if you leave a pot of gold visible from the street unattended, someone’s going to bust out a window or find a way in.

 

[brushfire]

^ its no wonder why trump can only find swampers to take positions on his staff. Who the fk would want to work for that guy?

 

[brushfire]

Well walls do work for those that don't haul big ladders or high end cordless grinders and recipro saws.


This baby would make short work of the wall, but most of these poor Mexicans can't afford it.

They have cordless power tools... Even the poorest are paying 'yotes thousands to guide them across the border. They have a system, and it includes the welfare they receive on the other side.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The man behind an online fundraising campaign to build a privately funded barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border says his group has 10 more projects in the pipeline but he declined to provide details about where the sections of wall would be located.
Veteran Brian Kolfage made the announcement during a news conference in Sunland Park, New Mexico, where We Build the Wall Inc. has been installing a concrete and metal barrier on private property.
Contractor Jimmy Fisher said Thursday the section will be just under a half-mile (less than 1 kilometer) long.
Kris Kobach, the group's legal counsel, said We Build the Wall plans to sign an easement allowing Border Patrol agents to patrol the private property without having to hand over ownership of the land to federal officials.


More at: https://news.yahoo.com/latest-group-behind-private-border-wall-more-plans-201408631.html

 

[specsaregood]

Leave food crumbs and trash everywhere in your house, and tape off every opening you can find. You will still get roaches.

So Mexicans are roaches? Sounds like a great slogan; "Why build a wall? La Cucaracha will get into the US anyways."

 

[specsaregood]

New Mexico Mayor orders We Build The Wall to stop, says there are no permits and no city approval for the private wall they put up. Group says all permits are in order and inspection was done. What probably happened is the landowner made it sound like a private fence, and it got approval. Now they realize it was to stop migrants, and they are up in arms.

The city backed down. Admits that permits were issued.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...l-new-permits-retracts-cease-and-desist-order

New Mexico town gives We Build The Wall new permits, retracts cease and desist order

A nonprofit group can continue building a wall on private land along the U.S.-Mexico border now that a border city rescinded a cease and desist order.
Sunland Park Mayor Javier Perea issued the cease and desist order after city officials found that We Build The Wall did not have the proper permits and had violated city ordinances. Perea announced the reversal in a press conference Thursday.
"There were two permits that were issued on behalf of the city. Those permits were issued prematurely by staff, but we are now in communication with the company and the owner of the property to ensure that if we are going to continue forward with this particular issue, that they need to come into compliance with all city ordinances and regulations, including any state requirements," Perea said.

"There are still some issues with those permits, but being that the staff did release those permits, we have reached out that we will be in communication and that they will have to be coming into compliance with all city ordinances," Perea said.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The city backed down. Admits that permits were issued.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...l-new-permits-retracts-cease-and-desist-order

 

[PAF]

The “communist invaders” will come regardless of whether there is a private wall or a government wall.

You have to remove the communist policies first. Nobody is talking about the free healthcare and education and other welfare programs that do not discriminate based on immigration status.

“Build that wall... MAGA” is the stupid repeating the stupid. There is no reason to believe that a wall will stop anyone.

Don’t believe me? Look at prisons. There are walls and chain fences and barbed wires and cameras ever 12 feet. Drugs still get in, escapees get out.

To the unintelligent “do you have a front door” responding people, yes I have a front door, but if someone is going to break in, they will find a way in. It’s purpose isn’t to stop people from coming in, it just slows them down. But you better believe if someone wants in, they will find a way in.

I take offense at the notion that the wall is to prevent “communist invaders” anyways. The commies are already running the government. They are running the biggest businesses and pulling strings everywhere. They are running city councils.

Why don’t we worry about the communist US residents first? If you are worried about them why wouldn’t you start by building a wall around California to keep them all in there?

What about the socialist invaders? When are we building a wall to keep those shivering frenchy Canadians out of our country? Is it even “our” country anyways? This country historically has been a shining beacon of freedom and opportunity to the world. Why can’t we just return to being a country ruled by constitutional law and not a welfare state that drains the middle class of its wealth to grow the divide between the obscenely wealthy and the poor? With a booming economy, we should all want migrants flocking to the country to try their own hands at prosperity and freedom.

I don’t dream of a prison state. I think people are greatly confused about what a “wall” really means. There is so much more we can be focused on to fix the problems associated with people crossing the borders illegally.

Everyone seems to just want to forget logic and jump straight to some fantasyland solution. Why not use those little peckerheads and think for a freaking second. Step one: Why are they coming? Not because they want to vote for communist policies, but because we already have what they are coming for. Step 2. Quit dangling from trumps dong long enough to think for yourself about what step 3 is.

+ Rep outstanding post.


The shills have no clue what the unintended consequences will be until it is too late. Or, maybe they do know, which is why they keep trying to shove statist garbage down our throats.

SwordShill, didn’t you just tell me in another thread that government will never downsize itself, but instead only grows? Haven’t you figured out yet why they want that stupid wall? Or are you going to try to brainwash me that the wall is an exception.

 

[Swordsmyth]

SwordShill, didn’t you just tell me in another thread that government will never downsize itself, but instead only grows? Haven’t you figured out yet why they want that stupid wall? Or are you going to try to brainwash me that the wall is an exception.

They don't want the wall or we would have it already.
And we can reduce the size of government IF we stop the importation of communists.