First-ever private border wall built in New Mexico

[Swordsmyth]

You have a severe habit of twisting words. More and more you sound like a nazi whose end goal is that only very specific people of a specific nation should be predetermined by you to be entitled to freedom, liberty and economic prosperity.

Therefore, you have absolutely no credibility.

LOL

 

[asurfaholic]

I believe Ron Paul didn’t stutter and say only government built walls are capable of keeping people in. A wall is a wall.

I don’t believe a wall will fix any of the issues, regardless of pays for it.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I believe Ron Paul didn’t stutter and say only government built walls are capable of keeping people in. A wall is a wall.

I don’t believe a wall will fix any of the issues, regardless of pays for it.

Setting aside the question of a government wall, border land owners have a right to put up walls to protect themselves, their loved ones and their property.

 

[angelatc]

I believe Ron Paul didn’t stutter and say only government built walls are capable of keeping people in. A wall is a wall.

I don’t believe a wall will fix any of the issues, regardless of pays for it.

Of course not. But there's no support for ending the welfare state. Trump doesn't even talk about scaling any of that back, even though this is the perfect time. And even if he did, no way could he get the House to do that.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Of course not. But there's no support for ending the welfare state. Trump doesn't even talk about scaling any of that back, even though this is the perfect time. And even if he did, no way could he get the House to do that.

Trump is doing what he can:

[h=1]New HUD rule prevents illegals from getting public housing assistance[/h]

Infuriating Democrats, Trump Plans To Redefine Poverty, Cutting Americans From Welfare

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Steve Bannon for president

Granted he was very upset over Roy Moore's defeat caused by Jarvanka and privately probably fuming over MAGA tweets insulting him as 'sloppy Steve', at this point it seems unlikely that he would primary MAGA in 2020.
Although, anything is possible in politics. There have been rumors that Obama insults at WHCD dinner motivated Trump to run for President.

 

[oyarde]

How ironic is it that New Mexico was the first state to do this?

It is not new and it is not mexico . Could be a little left of mexico .

 

[asurfaholic]

Setting aside the question of a government wall, border land owners have a right to put up walls to protect themselves, their loved ones and their property.

That's a good point. I hate the idea of a wall, but if the actual property owners want a wall or fence, then who am I to stop them.

 

[TheTexan]

They're paying for the wall out of their own pockets, on private property??

They're going about this whole thing all wrong.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That's a good point. I hate the idea of a wall, but if the actual property owners want a wall or fence, then who am I to stop them.

Do you have a front door on your home?

 

[ProBlue33]

Well walls do work for those that don't haul big ladders or high end cordless grinders and recipro saws.

This baby would make short work of the wall, but most of these poor Mexicans can't afford it.

 

[buck000]

That's a good point. I hate the idea of a wall, but if the actual property owners want a wall or fence, then who am I to stop them.

Apparently, you're not the goverment.

 

[asurfaholic]

Do you have a front door on your home?

Do we have a wall separating Canada from US?

Do we have a wall separating the ocean from the coasts?

Where does it stop?

Why do we need a wall? What are we trying to keep in or out?

 

[PAF]

Do we have a wall separating Canada from US?

Do we have a wall separating the ocean from the coasts?

Where does it stop?

Why do we need a wall? What are we trying to keep in or out?

^ I whole-heartedly agree ^

I will make the point, however, that if a wall solely exists on Private Property, funded by Private Money, government has NO business interfering with that construct.

I would opt that the Free Market dictate whether the business, tourism, real estate sales, etc. flourish or sink while staring at a prison wall.

I for one will never visit New Mexico or Texas again where portions of the wall exist. Others may choose to do so, but that is not my idea of a vacationing tourist, and I certainly would NEVER purchase property to build a home or a business.

Again, the only solution is to End Incentives that attract free-loaders into the area. If any free-loaders still roam about on public land with NO incentive to receive, who am I to stop them from traveling freely.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Why do we need a wall?

Because we don't put the troops on the border and throw everyone back across.

What are we trying to keep in or out?

We are trying to keep communist invaders out.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Again, the only solution is to End Incentives that attract free-loaders into the area. If any free-loaders still roam about on public land with NO incentive to receive, who am I to stop them from traveling freely.

Our economy is the biggest incentive and they will have an intent to use big government to take a chunk of it.

 

[asurfaholic]

Because we don't put the troops on the border and throw everyone back across.



We are trying to keep communist invaders out.

The “communist invaders” will come regardless of whether there is a private wall or a government wall.

You have to remove the communist policies first. Nobody is talking about the free healthcare and education and other welfare programs that do not discriminate based on immigration status.

“Build that wall... MAGA” is the stupid repeating the stupid. There is no reason to believe that a wall will stop anyone.

Don’t believe me? Look at prisons. There are walls and chain fences and barbed wires and cameras ever 12 feet. Drugs still get in, escapees get out.

To the unintelligent “do you have a front door” responding people, yes I have a front door, but if someone is going to break in, they will find a way in. It’s purpose isn’t to stop people from coming in, it just slows them down. But you better believe if someone wants in, they will find a way in.

I take offense at the notion that the wall is to prevent “communist invaders” anyways. The commies are already running the government. They are running the biggest businesses and pulling strings everywhere. They are running city councils.

Why don’t we worry about the communist US residents first? If you are worried about them why wouldn’t you start by building a wall around California to keep them all in there?

What about the socialist invaders? When are we building a wall to keep those shivering frenchy Canadians out of our country? Is it even “our” country anyways? This country historically has been a shining beacon of freedom and opportunity to the world. Why can’t we just return to being a country ruled by constitutional law and not a welfare state that drains the middle class of its wealth to grow the divide between the obscenely wealthy and the poor? With a booming economy, we should all want migrants flocking to the country to try their own hands at prosperity and freedom.

I don’t dream of a prison state. I think people are greatly confused about what a “wall” really means. There is so much more we can be focused on to fix the problems associated with people crossing the borders illegally.

Everyone seems to just want to forget logic and jump straight to some fantasyland solution. Why not use those little peckerheads and think for a freaking second. Step one: Why are they coming? Not because they want to vote for communist policies, but because we already have what they are coming for. Step 2. Quit dangling from trumps dong long enough to think for yourself about what step 3 is.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The “communist invaders” will come regardless of whether there is a private wall or a government wall.

You have to remove the communist policies first. Nobody is talking about the free healthcare and education and other welfare programs that do not discriminate based on immigration status.

“Build that wall... MAGA” is the stupid repeating the stupid. There is no reason to believe that a wall will stop anyone.

Don’t believe me? Look at prisons. There are walls and chain fences and barbed wires and cameras ever 12 feet. Drugs still get in, escapees get out.

To the unintelligent “do you have a front door” responding people, yes I have a front door, but if someone is going to break in, they will find a way in. It’s purpose isn’t to stop people from coming in, it just slows them down. But you better believe if someone wants in, they will find a way in.

I take offense at the notion that the wall is to prevent “communist invaders” anyways. The commies are already running the government. They are running the biggest businesses and pulling strings everywhere. They are running city councils.

Why don’t we worry about the communist US residents first? If you are worried about them why wouldn’t you start by building a wall around California to keep them all in there?

What about the socialist invaders? When are we building a wall to keep those shivering frenchy Canadians out of our country? Is it even “our” country anyways? This country historically has been a shining beacon of freedom and opportunity to the world. Why can’t we just return to being a country ruled by constitutional law and not a welfare state that drains the middle class of its wealth to grow the divide between the obscenely wealthy and the poor? With a booming economy, we should all want migrants flocking to the country to try their own hands at prosperity and freedom.

I don’t dream of a prison state. I think people are greatly confused about what a “wall” really means. There is so much more we can be focused on to fix the problems associated with people crossing the borders illegally.

Everyone seems to just want to forget logic and jump straight to some fantasyland solution. Why not use those little peckerheads and think for a freaking second. Step one: Why are they coming? Not because they want to vote for communist policies, but because we already have what they are coming for. Step 2. Quit dangling from trumps dong long enough to think for yourself about what step 3 is.

A wall or patrols will not be 100% effective, they don't have to be.

We do have too many communists here already, that is why we have to do everything we can to keep them from importing enough reinforcements to destroy any chance we have of restoring liberty.

If I could split California off from the union and keep them from coming in I would and I want troops patrolling the northern border too.

It IS OUR COUNTRY, our ancestors built it and left it to us as their gift to us and we have a responsibility to them and to our descendants to keep it from being destroyed. (particularly at the hands of foreigners)

We can't return to being a country ruled by constitutional law and not a welfare state that drains the middle class of its wealth to grow the divide between the obscenely wealthy and the poor if we allow our native communists to import unlimited reinforcements.

If we ever do restore liberty and a booming economy we can share it with some immigrants but we will have a responsibility to limit their numbers and the cultures we allow them from to preserve liberty and a booming economy.

They are coming for our economy that is much better than theirs and if we didn't have a welfare state they would vote for one, that is what previous waves of immigrants did.
And in any case they come here and vote to keep and expand the welfare state and if we allow them too we will never be able to eliminate it.

 

[asurfaholic]

Are you serious? You are going to blame our welfare state on people who crossed the southern border?

It was registered voting actual Americans who created this mess.

Mostly by parroting everything they heard some big fat head on the TV saying.

Like “build that wall” people are doing now. Nobody cared about a wall until trump made a spectacle of it.

 

[Danke]

Do we have a wall separating Canada from US?

Do we have a wall separating the ocean from the coasts?

Where does it stop?

Why do we need a wall? What are we trying to keep in or out?

We have a problem with people coming here illegally from Canada?