Fire Retardants Found in Peanut Butter, Other Fatty Foods, yet no specific disclosure

I used to be a senior chemist with an R&D lab; I fully support this post.

Yes, we should be aware of what is in our food. But as detection limits are pushed (ppb is now the standard ppm used to be; ppt as in trillion is coming), you're going to find certains compounds in anything you test.

Again, being informed is good; obeing overly reactionary to something that is made to sound scary, on a subject with little native understanding is not so good.

I think it's the discerning mind of the people here that is so appealing. We shouldn't take anything at face value, even if it fits well in our views of the world. Selection bias is a bitch!

Exactly.
 
That guy reminds me currently , of the guy who lived across the road from me as a kid .

Some people dream of being rich, famous and powerful. I just want to be where my biggest concern is that some chinaman pissed on my rug.
 
+3

Perhaps we have suddenly stumbled upon the real reason for the affection for the big lebowski here on rpfs...

The way the milk swirls so perfectly, clinks with ice and mixes with the dark liquor, then the kick of vodka after you take a sip. I remember the first time I ordered one, fully expecting to hate it. Sweet...but not disgusting sweet like an apple martini. It has substance.

That guy reminds me currently , of the guy who lived across the road from me as a kid .

I love the comfy sweater. Wish I had one like that...I guess I'll need to find someone who knits.
 
How can you mess up ground up rock?

For years I thought they just ground up calcium. I am sadly mistaken.


I was going to go douse some of the global fire that now rages with a little peanut butter and crackers. I think I will go for an apricot instead.
As you can probably now see , I never use the non dairy creamer , for years , I did keep some for company , not anymore . If somebody asks for cream I just put a bit of milk in it. I keep milk to make gravy with.
 
Flame Retardant Found in Common Foods From Supermarkets

Michelle Castillo
CBS News
Thu, 31 May 2012 22:16 CDT

A new study from researchers at the University of Texas School of Public Health has revealed that flame retardant chemicals were found in many samples taken from popular food items.

While less than half of the tested food products had detectible levels of the chemical called hexabromocyclododecane (HBCD), 15 out of the 36 items tested positive. HBCD is used in polystyrene foam in the building and construction industry and can be found worldwide in the environment and wildlife, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. It has been highly toxic for aquatic organisms, and shown to have troubling effects on animal populations.

"The levels we found are lower than what the government agencies currently think are dangerous," study author Dr. Arnold Schecter, a public health physician at the University of Texas School of Public Health in Dallas, told WebMD. "But those levels were determined one chemical at a time."

The results were published in Environmental Health Perspectives, a National Institute of Health publication, on May 31.

The researchers bought the samples from Dallas-area supermarkets between 2009 and 2010. The foods with detectable levels tended to be items with fish like canned sardines or fresh salmon or products with meat like deli-sliced turkey or ham in them. One out of the three varieties of chili with beans also tested positive.

A spokesperson for the North American Flame Retardant Alliance of the American Chemistry Council told WebMD that it should be noted that the majority of the tested items did not have HBCD, and if it was found in the product, it contained levels much lower than levels reported to show negative health effects.

Just because HBDC hasn't been shown to have adverse affects to humans doesn't necessarily mean that scientists won't find out they cause them in the future, Dr. Kenneth Spaeth, director of the Occupational and Environmental Medicine Center at the Department of Population Health at North Shore University Hospital in Manhasset, N.Y., cautions to HealthPop.

In animal tests, the chemicals have been show to disrupt hormones in the endocrine system and in the thyroid. Concern has also been raised since it has also been shown to affect neurodevelopment, which means young children or pregnant populations can potentially be at risk. Europe has stricter regulations on the use of HBCD, and Spaeth says HBCD levels within their populations are clearly lower than levels found in U.S. residents.

"It's an extremely controversial area," he explains to HealthPop. "In my opinion, the determination of what is safe and what isn't, the jury is still out (on HBCD). We don't have enough good data to say definitely what is good or isn't."

Spaeth says HBCD often gets into food products through contamination in the environment. It is often discarded in our water sources, which allows them to seep into the soil. The chemicals work their way up through the food chain when they are absorbed by plants, which are then eaten by animals. Spaeth says this is why you often find HBCD in meat, dairy and fish products.

But, it's not just our food that's contaminated. Spaeth points out that HBCD is very prevalent in our households because it often binds itself to dust - and tests have shown that the levels found in our homes are often higher than what is recorded in food sources. The chemical is used in common products including furniture, telephones, washing machines and our stoves. This can be especially troublesome for children, who often crawl on the floor and put lots of items in their mouths. To minimize exposure, Spaeth suggests using a vaccum with a hepafilter and washing your hands frequently.

"It's fine to be cautious and vocal. Just because we 'know' it's safe doesn't mean we shouldn't try to minimize exposure, especially in vulnerable populations," he says.
 
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