Filibuster Round 2

FEEL THE LOVE

 
nikcers said:
Expect more paid shills - they don't want to crucify him in public but demoralize his supporters. Talking points seem to be downplaying his role in the movement to end the patriot act, they want to convince people its a group effort.
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This is actually a good thing. Not a lone nut no vote, but a coalition.
 
ord33 said:
“Hopefully he’ll change his mind,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said of Paul. “That’s why there’s the delay.”
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Sounds scary--like they need a week to threaten him or something?

Does this mean that if Rand doesn't change his mind, and once again does not allow unanimous consent next Sunday, that there is nothing they can do, and it will expire? Just because they don't want to work during the next week? Sounds crazy.
 
libertyclick.org/rand-paul-patriot-act-filibuster-complete-transcript/

Excerpt from day 1:

Mr. PAUL. Mr. President, there comes a time in the history of nations
when fear and complacency allow power to accumulate and liberty and
privacy to suffer. That time is now. And I will not let the PATRIOT
Act--the most unpatriotic of acts--go unchallenged.

At the very least, we should debate. We should debate whether we are
going to relinquish our rights or whether we are going to have a full
and able debateover whether we can live within the Constitution or
whether we have to go around the Constitution.

The bulk collection of all Americans' phone records all of the time
is a direct violation of the Fourth Amendment. The Second Appeals Court
has ruled it is illegal.

The President began this program by Executive order. He should
immediately end it through Executive order. For over a year now, he has
said the program is illegal. Yet, he does nothing. He says: Well,
Congress can get rid of the PATRIOT Act; Congress can get of the bulk
collection. Yet, he has the power to do it at his fingertips. He began
this illegal program. The court has informed him that the program is
illegal. He has every power to stop it. Yet, the President does
nothing.

Justice Brandeis wrote that the right to be left alone is the most
cherished of rights, most prized among civilized men. The Fourth
Amendment incorporates this right to privacy. The Fourth Amendment
incorporates this right to be left alone.

When we think about the bulk collection of records, we might ask,
well, maybe I am willing to give up my freedom for security. Maybe if I
just give up a little freedom, I will be more safe.

Most of the information that comes on whether you are safe comes from
people who have secret information you are not allowed to look at. So
you have to trust the people--you have to trust those in our
intelligence community that they are being honest with you, that when
they tell you how important these programs are and that you must give
up your freedom, you must give up part of the Fourth Amendment--when
they tell you this, you have to trust them.

The problem is, we are having a great deal of difficulty trusting
these people. When James Clapper, the head of the intelligence agency,
the Director of National Intelligence, was asked point blank, are you
collecting the phone records of Americans in bulk, he said no. It turns
out that was dishonest. Yet, President Obama still has him in place.
So when they say how important these programs are and how they are
keeping us safe from terrorists, we are having to trust someone who
lied to a congressional committee. It is a felony to lie to a
congressional committee, and nothing has been done about this.
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r3volution 3.0 said:
...and also that we will rip Hillary's fucking throat out and drop it on the lawn.

While any of the other clowns'll play patty cake.

Libertarians to Conservatives -unleash us, get out of the fucking way

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Rap music aside, I like the way you think, sir!!
 
Looks like we won this round.

How on earth are we to be a self-governing people of our own legislature doesn't know what the Constitution allows it to do?
 
Does anyone know what the 6 amendments Rand proposed are - and which 2 he said he was unwilling to compromise?
 
Rand is saying "the President should end it immediately by Executive Order
- constitutionally this could have been McConnell and the GOP Senate's moment to shine
and win the 2016 general election for the GOP.

Rand :
"Comes a time in the history of nations . . .
when fear and complacency allow power to accumulate and liberty and privacy to suffer.

I will not let the Patriot Act . . . go unchallenged.

At the very least we should debate . . . whether or not we relinquish our rights . . .
whether we can live within the Constitution . . .
or whether we have to go around the Constitution."

short video clip starts on link at:

NO AMENDMENTS, CLOSED DEBATE: RAND PAUL’S NSA FILIBUSTER
PROVES MITCH MCCONNELL RUNNING U.S. SENATE JUST LIKE HARRY REID

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...nell-running-u-s-senate-just-like-harry-reid/




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amartin315 said:
So I haven't been online for a day or two.

What's the latest? Senate's back in session tuesday?
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They're returning to vote on May 31st. You know, since this program is so important for our national security, they can still wait a week to renew it the day before it expires.
 
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