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[fr33]

You don't get it at all, do you?

I pointed out that Mark Willis worked for Army Counterintelligence.

I defended Ron Paul against he type of attacks that Army Counterintelligence would make.

During the campaign right up until the RNC, and shortly after it, you used the Maine GOP as THE example everyone should have followed because they "did what they were told by the campaign".

Did you only recently discover Mark Willis' past occupation?

Have you attempted to discuss it with him?

 

[parocks]

During the primaries, yes, because this board was an organizational hub that threatened a major political campaign.

Right now, not so much. When they come to really destroy a board, you will know it. And the ones behind it won't be alphabet agencies, they are doing it for commercial purposes.

Would want more detail on this.

 

[amy31416]

You aren't getting it either. The Government isn't looking to bust people for crimes. The Government is trying to disrupt the Ron Paul Campaign and the "Liberty Movement". Because we want the NSA gone. We want the Military budget cut in half. And they're trying to prevent us from following our plans.

You really think we pose that much of a threat?

We have Massie, Paul and Amash. We got an "audit the Fed" bill passed, which was easily shot into the dirt, despite tons of support. We know they're shitbags, but they know we can't do shit about the NSA, the Federal Reserve or military adventurism. No "war" in Syria was not our victory, they just shifted, changed the rules and are arming the rebels anyways.

And even if someone here did do something about something--guess what happens? They go to their archives and say "RON/RAND PAUL SUPPORTER INVOLVED IN HEINOUS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY! THEY ARE ALL HORRIBLE PEOPLE WHO HATE THE CHILDREN, THE POOR AND MINORITIES." At this point, there's no need for that. If Rand looks to be "dangerous," then perhaps they will--at this point, it's not their biggest issue.

There's a certain bit of narcissism involved in being convinced that you're the biggest rebels on the planet that the "elite" track your every move--you have to have some "importance" for them to look more closely at you from the Fed level. But don't worry, with all the advances in Utah, you too can become a target of the Fed gov quite easily if you're useful or genuinely threatening.

 

[parocks]

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=236962.0
Spotting Paid Trolls
- contains details from a paid troll about what they do.

The “complex debate” part of the job involved a fair amount of additional training, including
memorizing more specific information about the specific posters (friendly and hostile) I’d be sparring with.
Here, too, there were scripts and suggested lines of argument, but we were given more freedom.
There were a lot of details to this more advanced stage of the job – everything from how to select the right avatar
to how to use “demotivationals” (humorous images with black borders that one finds floating around the web).
Even the proper use of images of cats was discussed.
Sometimes we used faked or photo-shopped images or doctored news reports (something else that bothered me).

 

[parocks]

Disinformation: How It Works
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/964-disinformation-how-it-works


Stopping Disinformation

The best way to disarm disinformation agents is to know their methods inside and out.
This gives us the ability to point out exactly what they are doing in detail the moment they try to do it.
Immediately exposing a disinformation tactic as it is being used is highly destructive to the person utilizing it.
It makes them look foolish, dishonest and weak for even making the attempt.
Internet trolls most especially do not know how to handle their methods being deconstructed right in front of their eyes
and usually fold and run from debate when it occurs.

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A comment:

As far as paid posters are concerned, I suggest you look into the Obama Administration's OPENLY ADMITTED projects to "mold internet opinion" through forum sites like Facebook, as well as the Federal Reserve, DHS, and DOD's OPENLY ADMITTED paid cyberwarfare programs. They have been caught red handed on numerous occasions using the tactics I describe above. If you are trying to say that no such programs exist, I recommend you educate yourself further using the widely substantiated evidence available before jumping to such conclusions.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You aren't getting it either. The Government isn't looking to bust people for crimes. The Government is trying to disrupt the Ron Paul Campaign and the "Liberty Movement". Because we want the NSA gone. We want the Military budget cut in half. And they're trying to prevent us from following our plans.

Ha ha, what plans would those be? Yammering away on two bit forum that has a tiny handful of die-hard readers?

 

[parocks]

You really think we pose that much of a threat?

We have Massie, Paul and Amash. We got an "audit the Fed" bill passed, which was easily shot into the dirt, despite tons of support. We know they're shitbags, but they know we can't do shit about the NSA, the Federal Reserve or military adventurism. No "war" in Syria was not our victory, they just shifted, changed the rules and are arming the rebels anyways.

And even if someone here did do something about something--guess what happens? They go to their archives and say "RON/RAND PAUL SUPPORTER INVOLVED IN HEINOUS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY! THEY ARE ALL HORRIBLE PEOPLE WHO HATE THE CHILDREN, THE POOR AND MINORITIES." At this point, there's no need for that. If Rand looks to be "dangerous," then perhaps they will--at this point, it's not their biggest issue.

There's a certain bit of narcissism involved in being convinced that you're the biggest rebels on the planet that the "elite" track your every move--you have to have some "importance" for them to look more closely at you from the Fed level. But don't worry, with all the advances in Utah, you too can become a target of the Fed gov quite easily if you're useful or genuinely threatening.

You don't get it.

Ron Paul was most certainly the greatest threat to the Fed and the Military in a really long time. The Fed and the Military are the ones who are actually doing this. The Fed does not want to be ended. The Military does not want to see every overseas base closed. Ron Paul was and is the only politician saying these things. The Military and the Fed did not like this one bit.

This isn't about specific worries individuals might have. That's a different question, not one that I'm discussing here.

What I'm talking about is internet trolls, here on RPF and elsewhere, paid for by the Military or the Fed, to post things that hurt the campaign. Part of a larger effort to hurt the campaign, to prevent the campaigns goals from being accomplished.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You really think we pose that much of a threat?


There's a certain bit of narcissism involved in being convinced that you're the biggest rebels on the planet that the "elite" track your every move--you have to have some "importance" for them to look more closely at you from the Fed level. But don't worry, with all the advances in Utah, you too can become a target of the Fed gov quite easily if you're useful or genuinely threatening.

Quoted especially for parocks and the dozens of others on forums who think they're the cat's meow.


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Instead of people yammering away about what they saw on cable TV, get out and do something. You should be more concerned about how you're money is being spent than thinking your writing is so mesmerizing to the masses. Nobody is reading what you're saying.

Some people give faaaaarrrr to much credit to these circus clowns. Not only that, they place an aura around these government imbeciles like they're some kind of cloak and dagger movie script. The vast majority of people still get caught because somebody told on them. The rest of the small minority gets caught because they were given limited immunity to run their mouth. Remember when the teacher told you that you'd better tell what you know because they'll find out anyway? That's right; the same trick that worked on you in third grade also works on adults.

And "propaganda"? Oh, that's a laugh. These ass clowns are spending your money thinking they are going to influence and even control the entire world. Yeah, your money. Anybody open that job ad for the CIA posted on this thread? They basically pay some 26 year old kid to read towelhead newspapers, and people on RPF are so impressed. These morons are basically doing the same crap they did sixty years ago. Instead of dropping flyers over Korea though, they make people think leaflets are dropping en masse through your computer. What is an even bigger joke is that people think they're so important by posting about this shit, while some dumbass uses his expense account to eat at four star restaurants and screw prostitutes.

 

[parocks]

Ha ha, what plans would those be? Yammering away on two bit forum that has a tiny handful of die-hard readers?

Ha Ha indeed.

Your argument here is RPF sucks?

I'd argue that more attention was paid to Ron Paul in 2007-2008 and 2011-2012 than is now.

One key plan was to take positions on the Republican Committees. And in Maine, we succeeded. At the convention, we took most of the State Committee seats. We also took the National Committeeman and woman seats.

The overall idea was to take control of the RNC, and the state committees and have them do what we wanted them to. And we succeeded in the plan in Maine.
But ex-INSCOM/NSA Mark Willis - National Committeeman who we put in that spot - just quit. Quitting, and getting 12 other Ron Paul GOP including quite a few state committee, is not the plan. It's the opposite of the plan.

Here's what happened, in a nutshell.

Ron Paul people vote in Ron Paul Supporters(?) to State Committee and National Committee seats. Good.
Ex INSCOM/NSA Mark Willis, National Committeeman (our guy) gets them to quit. Bad.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You don't get it.

What I'm talking about is internet trolls, here on RPF and elsewhere, paid for by the Military or the Fed, to post things that hurt the campaign. Part of a larger effort to hurt the campaign, to prevent the campaigns goals from being accomplished.

No, you don't get it. Quit being so narcissistic and get in the real world. Nobody gives a crap about what you post.

 

[eduardo89]

I've been accused of being a paid shill on this forum and on another one. On this one I was accused of actually being multiple people of British origin and also of being part of the banking elite. On another forum (RevBox) I was accused by a guy with the username 'WetPussy' of being a paid shill for FreedomWorks and the Kochs.

 

[green73]

I've been accused of being a paid shill on this forum and on another one. On this one I was accused of actually being multiple people of British origin and also of being part of the banking elite. On another forum (RevBox) I was accused by a guy with the username 'WetPussy' of being a paid shill for FreedomWorks and the Kochs.

I'm never worried when wet pussy is involved.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Your argument here is RPF sucks?

What sucks is people who get involved (as in your Maine example), but then act goofy by saying some asinine thing about some government circus clown responding to parocks and his posts. Are you wonder why you get the result that you get.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

On another forum (RevBox) I was accused by a guy with the username 'WetPussy' of being a paid shill for FreedomWorks and the Kochs.

You should have accused him of being the phone sex guy impersonating a woman.

 

[parocks]

http://youtu.be/VpVUYGcgtjw
http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-i...s-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/
http://www.nsa.gov/academia/nat_cae_cyber_ops/index.shtml
http://www.occupycorporatism.com/ci...-with-users-to-discredit-factual-information/
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/03/...ions-of-a-paid-disinformation-internet-shill/

 

[parocks]

What sucks is people who get involved (as in your Maine example), but then act goofy by saying some asinine thing about some government circus clown responding to parocks and his posts. Are you wonder why you get the result that you get.

You don't make sense.

You don't think it's a problem that an ex INSCOM/NSA guy just quit and got a bunch of other Ron Paulers to quit?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

you don't get it. Quit being so narcissistic and get in the real world. Nobody gives a crap about what you post.

Because NorthCarolinaLiberty, for whatever reason, is in the practice attacking persons who suggest that even a single government employee would monitor even the largest forum in the English speaking world:

The government is not monitoring these forums.

Not even one single government employee?

Nope; no government employees monitoring.

What did you see or hear which gave you that belief? What evidence supports your belief?

 

[parocks]

No, you don't get it. Quit being so narcissistic and get in the real world. Nobody gives a crap about what you post.

What are you talking about?

I'm talking about the Fed Gov infiltrating the Ron Paul campaign in Maine.

I'm talking about the Fed Gov hiring paid trolls to disrupt a campaign.

The people who don't want to hear about that are probably not Ron Paul supporters.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

http://youtu.be/VpVUYGcgtjw
http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-i...s-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/
http://www.nsa.gov/academia/nat_cae_cyber_ops/index.shtml
http://www.occupycorporatism.com/ci...-with-users-to-discredit-factual-information/
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/03/...ions-of-a-paid-disinformation-internet-shill/

Yep; knew it would not take me long to find it. One of the "authors" from one of those incredibly reliable sources said, "They are listening to every conversation, reading every post, intercepting every text message under the false flag of terrorism.

The facility has the technological ability to record and analyze every communication in the world."


LOL!!!! Seriously brother, first learn how a basic walkie-talkie functions and then we can list ad nauseum what is wrong with that line and a whole lot of other crap in that crap you posted.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

You really think we pose that much of a threat?

We have Massie, Paul and Amash. We got [a]... bill passed....

Sunstein's statements show that the government does not measure threat-level in terms of candidates and bills alone; it measures threat-level in terms of "beliefs, theories, arguments, and rhetoric":

our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that ... believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice....

... Cognitive infiltration

... government might undertake (legal) tactics for breaking up the tight cognitive clusters of extremist theories, arguments and rhetoric ....

http://ssrn.com/abstract=1084585