Exclusive—Rand Paul: Disingenuous Republicans at the Spending Trough

[juleswin]

The deficit went up because spending went up, not because tax rates were reduced (revenues increased)

Like some people above the thread have mentioned, deficit is the difference between the revenue(taxes) and spending, they go hand in hand when calculating the deficit. But spending grew by 5.44% from 2017 to 2018 compound it with tax cuts and you would end up with a deficit.

Maybe it is the increase in borrowing and spending(5.4%) that led to the increase in income tax revenue(4%)?

 

[Superfluous Man]

Adjusting for inflation, revenues did not go up. They went down. Even that Investors article linked above qualifies its claims by saying that they do not claim the tax cuts paid for themselves, only that the loss in revenue from their lower rates was partially offset by economic growth.

That said, all that's beside the point. We don't want revenue to go up, we want it to go down.

If you cut taxes and revenues go up, that means you didn't cut them enough.

If Rand did say that he expected these tax cuts to lead to increased revenue, and if he acted like that would be a good thing, then the main thing he should be criticized for is that last part of acting like increasing revenues would be a good thing.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Republicans who voted YEA on an unlimited increase in the debt ceiling:

Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Capito (R-WV)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cortez Masto (D-NV)
Cramer (R-ND)
Crapo (R-ID)
Ernst (R-IA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hyde-Smith (R-MS)
Inhofe (R-OK)
McConnell (R-KY)
McSally (R-AZ)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Perdue (R-GA)
Portman (R-OH)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rounds (R-SD)
Shelby (R-AL)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)
Wicker (R-MS)
Young (R-IN)​

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=1&vote=00262

The usual RINO suspects. IIRC, I highlighted the ones who have campaigned as fiscal conservatives or Tea Party candidates. Any more?

 

[Cap]

No worries, Trump will veto...right?

 

[loveshiscountry]

Regardless of whether or not this plan would even work, Rand and his ideological allies either lied or had no idea what they were talking about, in order to pass the Trump Tax bill. This is undebatable. If they lied, they should be removed from office. If they had no idea what they were talking about, they should be removed from office. If you have to lie to the American people to reach your desired ends, perhaps you are unfit to be in Congress.

What lie? Cutting taxes is the way to go. So everytime their has been a tax cut the last 50 years it's been bad since spending has increased? I care more about people keeping their money than higher debt.

 

[invisible]

In before the trumpettes and shylls blame immigrants for trump signing it.

 

[Badger Paul]

"senators who voted for an unlimited increase in the debt ceiling are not and have no right to call themselves conservatives. So America wake up and watch the votes today."

You know Rand, I hope you have the guts enough to say this to Moscow Mitch's face but I'm not going to hold my breath to see if you will. And I doubt if McConnell is sweating you either. Maybe the Rand of people's fantasies, but not the reality.

 

[Swordsmyth]

In before the trumpettes and shylls blame immigrants for trump signing it.

Generations of excessive immigration is responsible for the big government culture that gave us this kind of spending.

 

[Swordsmyth]

"senators who voted for an unlimited increase in the debt ceiling are not and have no right to call themselves conservatives. So America wake up and watch the votes today."

You know Rand, I hope you have the guts enough to say this to Moscow Mitch's face but I'm not going to hold my breath to see if you will. And I doubt if McConnell is sweating you either. Maybe the Rand of people's fantasies, but not the reality.

Rand does more for liberty in one day than you will in your entire life.

But you aren't trying to help liberty.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

No worries, Trump will veto...right?

Only if it doesn't spend enough

 

[Badger Paul]

"Rand does more for liberty in one day than you will in your entire life."

Thank you Mrs. Paul, but I'm sure Rand can defend himself.

 

[Swordsmyth]

"Rand does more for liberty in one day than you will in your entire life."

Thank you Mrs. Paul, but I'm sure Rand can defend himself.

If Rand were here he could.
But you can't defend yourself because you are just an anti-liberty troll.