EVs can't work, and are just stepping stones to banning all personal transportation

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acptulsa said:
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That's just ONE of the machines that it take to move that much earth.

A loader does not dig. It carries away earth that has been dug. Most likely by a very similarly large excavator, which consumes as much or more than the fuel that this machine consumes.

More likely than this loader doing anything in the process of moving the earth, the aforementioned excavator is loading multiple 777's which are making round trips from where the excavator is digging to wherever the spoil pile is and back.

There is no way to produce these materials without cold hard steel and lots and lots of oil and gas. NONE.
 
pcosmar said:

There is no way to produce these materials without cold hard steel and lots and lots of oil and gas. NONE.

wrong
https://www.conequip.com/wp/news/liebherr-introduces-a-hydrogen-powered-excavator
https://www.jcb.com/en-gb/news/2020/07/jcb-leads-the-way-with-first-hydrogen-fuelled-excavator
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You just showed me two pics of cold hard steel made from lots and lots of oil and gas. I have no idea what your point is...

I'm all for running these pieces of equipment on fuels other than diesel, I really am... but if you think these pieces of equipment aren't made from and by oil and gas, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Sorry Pete, but you're just out of your league here. ALL "alternative" energy is ENTIRELY dependent upon oil and gas. Period. That's just all there is to it.
 
Energy Shortages: Britons to be Paid to Not Use Electricity Between 5pm and 6pm on Monday

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...se-electricity-between-5pm-and-6pm-on-monday/

PETER CADDLE 23 Jan 2023

More than a million UK households will be offered money for them to cut their electricity use between 5pm and 6pm on Monday in a move that follows the National Grid bringing back mothballed coal plants today to ensure supply.

Some people across Britain are to be offered up to £20 (~$24.76) to dramatically reduce their electricity usage between 5pm and 6pm on Monday evening in an attempt to curb the country’s electricity use in the face of potential shortages.

It will be the first time such payments will be issued under the National Grid’s Demand Flexibility Service, which was introduced late last year in the hopes of preventing power blackouts.

Now, according to an online statement by the energy board, the emergency system is planned to be engaged for the first time this evening, with freezing cold temperatures reportedly causing problems for energy availability in Britain.

So far, three coal-fired power plants in the country have been ordered to make themselves ready for use to combat the shortages, with a combination of freezing temperatures, short days, and little wind hammering the UK’s green energy production at a time when significant supply is needed to heat and light people’s homes.

Wind energy in particular has appeared to have dropped dramatically, going from making up just under 58 per cent of the UK’s electricity supply one week ago to only 25 per cent on Saturday, pushing the country back onto more reliable alternatives.

While the National Grid insists that there are no chances of blackouts, it has admitted that the country’s energy supply has been significantly reduced, and that energy-saving measures are needed to “maintain the buffer of spare capacity we need”.

“Our forecasts show electricity supply margins are expected to be tighter than normal on Monday evening,” a statement from the body on Sunday evening read. “We have instructed coal-fired power units to be available to increase electricity supplies should it be needed tomorrow evening.”

“We are also activating a Live [Demand Flexibility Service] event between 5-6pm tomorrow,” it continued. “This does not mean electricity supplies are at risk and people should not be worried.”

According to a report by the Daily Mail, the more than a million households eligible to take part in the energy-saving project will be asked to refrain from using high-consumption appliances such as ovens, washing machines, tumble dryers, dishwashers and certain games consoles.

These households will be eligible for the programme as a result of having controversial “smart meters” with an eligible provider within their home, with the technology recently emerging as a point of controversy within the British press for the reason that it gives unprecedented control of electricity consumption to electricity companies.

Though the plan is voluntary, with many in Britain struggling to make ends meet as a result of the massively inflated price of fuel, food and electricity, the opportunity to be paid for saving energy for one hour may be a defacto necessity.

What’s more, these same households may be handed another opportunity to turn off their appliances for cash on Tuesday, with the National Grid reportedly saying that they may implement the measure again tomorrow should the supply situation not improve.

Officials from within the energy operator also have reportedly suggested that such energy-saving events could become a regular feature of winters in the UK, with one even suggesting that it will help boost the UK’s green agenda goals.

“It is something we strongly believe in,” Craig Dyke, Head of National Control at National Grid ESO, reportedly remarked. “It provides flexibility for the system and the consumer. We see this as a growing market.”

“We see this as a world-leading step forward into a space where we can only grow and drive forward towards Net Zero,” the official went on to say.
 
Anti Federalist said:
“We are also activating a Live [Demand Flexibility Service] event between 5-6pm tomorrow,” it continued. “This does not mean electricity supplies are at risk and people should not be worried.”
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Though the plan is voluntary, with many in Britain struggling to make ends meet as a result of the massively inflated price of fuel, food and electricity, the opportunity to be paid for saving energy for one hour may be a defacto necessity.
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Officials from within the energy operator also have reportedly suggested that such energy-saving events could become a regular feature of winters in the UK, with one even suggesting that it will help boost the UK’s green agenda goals.

“It is something we strongly believe in,” Craig Dyke, Head of National Control at National Grid ESO, reportedly remarked. “It provides flexibility for the system and the consumer. We see this as a growing market.”

“We see this as a world-leading step forward into a space where we can only grow and drive forward towards Net Zero,” the official went on to say.
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"I love it when people say that Ayn Rand's villains were too over-the-top and unrealistic." -- Michael Malice
 
Brits Pay More to Charge Electric Car than to Gas Up

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/24/nolte-brits-pay-more-charge-electric-car-than-gas-up/

JOHN NOLTE 24 Jan 2023

Per mile traveled, our British friends are now paying more to charge their electric cars than to gas them up.

Do stories come any more feel-good than this?

No, no, they do not:

Rapid charge points used by motorists topping up on long drives are now nearly £10 more expensive than filling up a car with petrol, the RAC revealed last week.

But research from the AA published on Monday finds that recharging an electric car even using a slow public charger at peak times can be more expensive, per mile driven afterwards, than for refuelling a comparable petrol car.

Jack Cousens, the AA’s head of roads policy and recharging, said: “While pump prices are falling, electricity prices are going in the other direction, but we are hopeful prices could tail off later this year.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *deep breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *another deep breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…

But at least these smug electric car drivers are decreasing their carbon footprint.

Oh, wait, they aren’t… You can’t make electricity without burning fossil fuels, so….

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *deep breath* HAHAHAHAHAHA… okay, I’ll stop now. HAHAHAHA… Sorry, that just slipped out.

So, according to this hilarious story, “Topping up the e-Corsa’s charge by 80pc on a slow charger at peak times results in a cost of 16.18p per mile.”

But.

The “costs (of a petrol Corsa) at around 14.45 pence per mile[.]”

Question: What’s left to feel smug about after it costs more to drive your electric car than a car-car?

Well, I guess you can pretend to feel all kinds of virtuous about saving Mother Earth in your Prius, but Global Warming is a hoax. So … you’re not saving anything. You’re certainly not saving money — lol. What’s more, no matter how much denial you conjure up, fossil fuels are still being burned to supply you with the electricity for your car, which, by the way, costs more than filling up your car with fossil fuels.

This is a perfect example of why the free market must be our guide — not politics and certainly not the fake science of Climate Change (which is a hoax). The government, be it third-world states such as California or our broken, bloated, and corrupt federal government, interfering in the market is always a disaster.

Nothing would make me happier than a magic car that runs on moonbeams or leprechaun poop. If Elon Musk comes up with an affordable vehicle that runs on sunshine or lemon drops or seawater, all the better. The free market supports what works and what’s efficient. The free market weeds out the Betamax and gives us VHS. That’s the only way massive and lasting cultural changes happen.

Everything but the free market is pushing electric vehicles. Instead, it’s all government meddling, partisan politics, a false sense of moral superiority, emotional blackmail, and peer pressure.

Time and time again, over more than a century now, we have watched as managed economies and markets fail. People at large know a good thing when they see it. Okay, not always. But the free market is a whole lot more reliable than the alternative.
 
A Son of Liberty said:
That's just ONE of the machines that it take to move that much earth.

A loader does not dig. It carries away earth that has been dug. Most likely by a very similarly large excavator, which consumes as much or more than the fuel that this machine consumes.

More likely than this loader doing anything in the process of moving the earth, the aforementioned excavator is loading multiple 777's which are making round trips from where the excavator is digging to wherever the spoil pile is and back.

There is no way to produce these materials without cold hard steel and lots and lots of oil and gas. NONE.
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In theory once battery recycling technology is no longer shitty, all those mined minerals would be able to be reused.
 
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