Everything's FINE with the blimp

Jongleur

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I have not weighed in at all on the blimp controversies(?), but I wanted to add my 50 cents. Oh yeah, it's more than $0.02.

DISCLAIMERS
1. Yes, we all have a right to an opinion, freedom is what we're all about, etc etc. I applaud the right of anyone to have their say on this.
2. I live in Columbia, SC and am delighted that I'll get to see the blimp (on the 16th, no less!) without traveling. However, I don't think it's clouded my logic on this.

What is the purpose of the blimp (in my opinion)?
In order of importance:
1. It's an unusual way to advertise, and a powerful symbol of the grassroots support of this candidate, and thus it is, dollar for dollar, a good investment. The media will (I think) find it charming and give it a good deal of coverage both nationally, and everywhere it goes.
2. To the extent we can have it present in any of the four early states, it is a HUGE boost in those states. Having said that, and even living in SC, the best place to have it is NH. Why?
2a. NH is small. We can get great saturation.
2b. NH is close to the northeast megalopolis so that the blimp can most easily get to other population centers.
2c. NH is already our best shot at a win. We are doing better there than NV, IA, or SC. let's play to our strengths and seal the deal.
3. I never valued this much myself, but some people are especially attached to idea of having the blimp somehow be a part of Tea Party '07 in Boston. I don't know if they think it will help increase donations, or just make for a more impressive party in Boston, thereby getting marginally more media coverage.

It's clear to me that in the context of the storms and the goals stated above, we simply wait it out in the southeast, and then head for NH as soon as possible, going through all major population centers (including Boston) on the way. Once in NH, I think the blimp should pretty much be circling there, with short excursions out to NYC, Boston, Philly, etc. Getting to Boston on the 16th is not only impractical/impossible, it also isn't very important in the Big Picture.

In other words, when a lot of people are talking about not getting what they paid for, what I am hearing is "I want a refund on this car I bought, because the steering wheel didn't come with the leather cover."

So if the blimp spends only a few days with a single banner, then adds the second banner and heads north for its "main" job, we're fine. Everything's ok.

Now, if the blimp goes for more than just a few days without the 2nd banner, we are effectively losing all the eyeballs that look at the blank side of the blimp. In that case, we are getting much less out of our investment than we thought. That's akin to buying the car without the wheels on the right side. If the banner isn't on by early next week, I'll change my tune.

As for the strawman that the media will "make fun" of us for not having both banners on in the first couple days, I think that the symbol of even getting the thing up in the air will FAR outweigh such small concerns.

UNLESS the media comes to these forums and uses our bickering as story material.

Anyway, them's mah thoughts.

Fire away.

- Topher
 
I have not weighed in at all on the blimp controversies(?), but I wanted to add my 50 cents. Oh yeah, it's more than $0.02.

DISCLAIMERS
1. Yes, we all have a right to an opinion, freedom is what we're all about, etc etc. I applaud the right of anyone to have their say on this.
2. I live in Columbia, SC and am delighted that I'll get to see the blimp (on the 16th, no less!) without traveling. However, I don't think it's clouded my logic on this.

What is the purpose of the blimp (in my opinion)?
In order of importance:
1. It's an unusual way to advertise, and a powerful symbol of the grassroots support of this candidate, and thus it is, dollar for dollar, a good investment. The media will (I think) find it charming and give it a good deal of coverage both nationally, and everywhere it goes.
2. To the extent we can have it present in any of the four early states, it is a HUGE boost in those states. Having said that, and even living in SC, the best place to have it is NH. Why?
2a. NH is small. We can get great saturation.
2b. NH is close to the northeast megalopolis so that the blimp can most easily get to other population centers.
2c. NH is already our best shot at a win. We are doing better there than NV, IA, or SC. let's play to our strengths and seal the deal.
3. I never valued this much myself, but some people are especially attached to idea of having the blimp somehow be a part of Tea Party '07 in Boston. I don't know if they think it will help increase donations, or just make for a more impressive party in Boston, thereby getting marginally more media coverage.

It's clear to me that in the context of the storms and the goals stated above, we simply wait it out in the southeast, and then head for NH as soon as possible, going through all major population centers (including Boston) on the way. Once in NH, I think the blimp should pretty much be circling there, with short excursions out to NYC, Boston, Philly, etc. Getting to Boston on the 16th is not only impractical/impossible, it also isn't very important in the Big Picture.

In other words, when a lot of people are talking about not getting what they paid for, what I am hearing is "I want a refund on this car I bought, because the steering wheel didn't come with the leather cover."

So if the blimp spends only a few days with a single banner, then adds the second banner and heads north for its "main" job, we're fine. Everything's ok.

Now, if the blimp goes for more than just a few days without the 2nd banner, we are effectively losing all the eyeballs that look at the blank side of the blimp. In that case, we are getting much less out of our investment than we thought. That's akin to buying the car without the wheels on the right side. If the banner isn't on by early next week, I'll change my tune.

As for the strawman that the media will "make fun" of us for not having both banners on in the first couple days, I think that the symbol of even getting the thing up in the air will FAR outweigh such small concerns.

UNLESS the media comes to these forums and uses our bickering as story material.

Anyway, them's mah thoughts.

Fire away.

- Topher

I vote for you for client relationships for the blimp team. Wouldn't it be nice if they actually took the time to write something like you did and give us direct information and an insight into their "thoughts"?
 
Hawaii and Alaska MUST have the Blimp!

Greetings All,

<sarcasm>

Maybe I'll be considered to "out there" but we really have to get the Blimp to Alaska and Hawaii! Why should these States be ignored just because they aren't part of the Lower 48! That's discrimination! If the blimp can't get to Hawaii and Alaska it should be crashed into the Pacific Ocean! Oh yea, Puerto Rico, and Guam! And the US Virgin Islands! Everyone must have equal exposure to the Blimp! Wait, I know, let's send it to Iraq and Afghanistan to get the troops to support Ron Paul! Oh, oh, a World Blimp tour! Around the World in 80 Days! It must be done or the Blimp should be destroyed!

</end sarcasm>

I personally think flying over sports stadiums during college football bowl games would be a terrific idea, and I don't even like sports that much.

William C Colley
 
I honestly think the southern route for the blimp may be better all things considered. The weather will be generallly better in the South so people will be outdoors more of the time and the people in the southern states don't know Ron Paul so much as the people in the Northeast do.

According to this map, places like Mississippi really need the blimp!
http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com/donors.html
 
Alright! NEVADA #2 in Donations!

I honestly think the southern route for the blimp may be better all things considered. The weather will be generallly better in the South so people will be outdoors more of the time and the people in the southern states don't know Ron Paul so much as the people in the Northeast do.

According to this map, places like Mississippi really need the blimp!
http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com/donors.html

Though New Hampshire is #1, I am so surprised that we are not leading the race there by a landslide! What Gives?

If RP doesn't win NH... all the residences who didn't vote for him, should have their LICENSE PLATES TORN from their VEHICLES! hypocrites, lol
 
I vote for you for client relationships for the blimp team. Wouldn't it be nice if they actually took the time to write something like you did and give us direct information and an insight into their "thoughts"?

Agreed, this is the type of communication we need
 
I wouldn't compare the blimp to a car without a leather steering wheel cover. How about a car without a side door or two missing bumpers.

It was a tough call, but it shouldn't have been that way. Hopefully it is not just an ego trip for these guys.

They really do need to respect the customers more.
 
If you listen to Trevor's interview on Ron Paul Radio, he explains why the decision to fly was made.
 
Respect?

Hopefully it is not just an ego trip for these guys.

They really do need to respect the customers more.

Why, when the customers don't respect them?

I don't mean this personally, NYFP, but I think "the customers" who've been grabbing every opportunity to complain, threaten, criticize and accuse are lucky the project leadership doesn't tell us all to take a hike and then go home.

Thankfully, the RP Revolution is more important to them than egos, money, or sleep. I can't say the same for the people whose vision is so limited they can't get past the minutia.

For Liberty!

Mike D.
 
Why, when the customers don't respect them?

I don't mean this personally, NYFP, but I think "the customers" who've been grabbing every opportunity to complain, threaten, criticize and accuse are lucky the project leadership doesn't tell us all to take a hike and then go home.

Thankfully, the RP Revolution is more important to them than egos, money, or sleep. I can't say the same for the people whose vision is so limited they can't get past the minutia.

For Liberty!

Mike D.

I agree with most of this, but they are getting paid for this you know that right?
 
I agree with most of this, but they are getting paid for this you know that right?

not for the first month, and after that $500/week...$500/week??? that is well below the minimum wage for the hours these folks are working, its like 20k/year, below the federal poverty level for a family

sure they're getting "paid", they're getting paid to be able to feed themselves and any dependents they might have
 
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