Even with 0 1st's, Ron finishes 3rd on SuperTuesday

While I don't disagree with your conclusion, I just don't think this is an accurate way to calculate this -- and not just because it's inaccurate to have Santorum/Gingrich tie for 4th in VA or to have Romney/Santorum tie for 1st in OH or to have PauloverGrinch in WY with only 26% reporting.

A better model (in my opinion) would be the Olympic medal race (temporarily disregarding WY till it's 100% concluded):

[TABLE="class: grid, align: left"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gold[/TD]
[TD]Silver[/TD]
[TD]Bronze[/TD]
[TD]TOTAL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Romney[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Santorum[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Paul[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gingrich[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: grid, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD]...and if...
[/TD]
[TD]Gold = 3pts[/TD]
[TD]Silver = 2 pts[/TD]
[TD]Bronze = 1 pt[/TD]
[TD]TOTAL POINTS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Romney[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]22 points[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Santorum[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]19 points[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Paul[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]9 points[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gingrich[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]6 points[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


The second table's "point method" isn't the best way of calculating delegates or anything, but I'm including it along with the Medal chart because those points are a fairly decent way of calculating momentum because it aggregates voter/media perceptions.

Same conclusion, different methodology. Yours looks prettier, though. :)
 
Ron Paul could die of a heart attack right now, but we would still convince ourselves that he's winning if we crunched the numbers enough.

Ron's heart appears to be in very good shape (and in the right place too) IMO.

lol, I know what you mean about the poll numbers though...

However, I think the sleeping Newt needs to go see his cardiologist before his lips really do turn blue.
 
No one is dropping out. This is going straight to the convention unless Romney manages to sweep the west coast (CA) and Texas. You can pretty much put the entire NE in Romney's pocket though. PA is only battleground left for Santorum/Romney in the Northeast. You've got to hope Romney loses PA and TX.
looks to me like romney will win california , texas and new york.
IMO there will be no brokered convention , mittens will win this thing.
 
Way to make friends. LOL.

I'm not here to make friends...

..I'm here to make best friends! <3 :D

Naw seriously, though. I really don't know what to think anymore. Part me of is like.. coming to terms that we lost the moment they took Iowa from us. I kinda wish we could redirect al of our efforts to local and state government elections. I think we could get a lot more done within 10 years if we did.
 
What the hell does the last row mean?

But a couple things...If the goal is to be the nominee..in all honesty, BOTH should withdraw. But that is not Ron Paul's goal. But remember..Gingrich has a LOT more money, two wins under his belt, and some states where he has a really good chance of winning. (Though that chance is not as good as it was on Monday)


FindLiberty - when did you last give Ron Paul a chest x-ray to know about his heart? He may be in pretty good shape for his age, but also, statistically speaking, his life expectancy is only about 9 1/2 years. Which would likely decrease due to the stress of the presidency.


By the way...the BEST way to do it, rather than assigning points would be to simply take their average place. I generously gave Santorum and Gingrich a 3rd place in Virginia..and you get Romney - 1.8, Santorum - 2.0, Paul - 3.1 and Gingrich - 3.3. Where obviously hte lower the better.

Of course, Ohio was the only state that really mattered on Tuesday, since the other states were pretty much set. Ohio was the only state that was even somewhat of a surprise. That is why I didn't understand last night when people called Romney the loser for Super Tuesday and Santorum the winner. (Granted, that was before Alaska.)


But please...can you all STOP talking about a brokered convention! It is NOT going to happen. Again..to those too young to know past this election cycle...this year it NOT some special occurrence. There have been SEVERAL primary seasons that have been just as close or even closer. And so far NONE have neded in a brokered convention.

Not only is it VERY likely Romney gets to 1144 (it is all but a cinch if he takes Texas since he will definitely get CA and NY) but on the off chance that he doesn't, deals will be made before the first round to avoid it being brokered. They are NOT going to allow it to get to a brokered convention. (And I hate to tell you, but Ron Paul STILL wouldn't win. There are not going to be 144 Ron Paul delegates, bound or unbound, stealth or not, delegates.)
 
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is third out of 4 contestants supposed to be encouraging? lol
I can understand is there were 10+ running, but there is 4.....3rd out of 4....
He still beat Bachman and Perry who had the attention of MSM...
 
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Dude seriously, we have been completely shut out thus far. Not even a win in Alaska?! If you multiply zero times anything, it is still ZERO!

Get your head out of the clouds, it is all but over. The funding has all but dried up. The elections are nothing but fraud. Ron is taken even less seriously now then he was 2 months ago. The MSM dont even acknowledge he is even running any more.

If you think "it's over" THEN LEAVE! :mad:

Let us rest of the idiots keep fighting, we don't need any quitters here! :mad:
 
The realists have always been the minority here. I'm not saying it was ever unrealistic for him to win, it definitely wasn't. But like I keep saying, most people here spend more effort on convincing themselves that he's doing well, focusing on the tiny wins that don't mean anything and digging for numbers to be in our favor instead of putting in any ACTUAL work to make our guy win. Just look at the countless of posts where people complain about the media and marginalize the OTHER candidates' success. "Oh you know, if it wasn't for the MEDIA, they wouldn't be doing so well". WHO. EFFING. CARES? I know, the media pushed them and that's why they're doing well, and you know what? THAT'S WHY THEY'RE WINNING STATES. Instead of trying to find ways around the media or make the media work for us, we spend all our time bitching about the media.

I honestly don't think the campaign or Ron Paul are to blame. We did put in a lot of work, it's just that 90% of that work was spent on building a fantasy land where Ron Paul is winning every primary and angrily emailing people who don't like Ron Paul.

These are presidential elections. Not like.. World of Warcraft. This isn't an online game where we live in our own pretty little world and play revolutionaries. This is you know, a campaign to get a guy elected. It's just sad that by far the majority of all Ron Paul supporters prefer the fantasy world.
 
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But Ron Paul DOES need realists. And you are not one.

If Ron Paul was a "realist" then he'd have given after spending a couple of years in Congress seeing that most people are dumb as brick & don't care about their liberty; it's only because he's an optimist that he's stood there for so long & has now triggered a movement of huge proportions

Sellouts like you are what's wrong with Washington, the idea of going along to along, compromising principles just so you'd get a piece of crum thrown at you; if the electorate is compromising & unprincipled & believes in going with "lesser evil" & is unwilling to stand on principles then a compromising & unprincipled government is what they get & deserve!
 
If Ron Paul was a "realist" then he'd have given after spending a couple of years in Congress seeing that most people are dumb as brick & don't care about their liberty; it's only because he's an optimist that he's stood there for so long & has now triggered a movement of huge proportions

Sellouts like you are what's wrong with Washington, the idea of going along to along, compromising principles just so you'd get a piece of crum thrown at you; if the electorate is compromising & unprincipled & believes in going with "lesser evil" & is unwilling to stand on principles then a compromising & unprincipled government is what they get & deserve!
So now a realist = sellout?
 
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