Essential Vaccines for Kids?

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My Doc wants to give them all... but I am less inclined to do so.

So my question is, what are the essential ones? Chicken Pox? I don't want to put the kids at risk for a common outbreak, but then again, I dont want to dump the whole sea of toxins in their body either.

Any advice on exactly which one's I should give the green light to while I do my research?
 
I don't know someone did a whole thing breaking down each of the different vaccines awhile ago. At-least, asimple girl had a list. Unfortunately, there's some legitimacy to some of them. And getting a doctor to cooperate with any simple request to have this brand vaccine delivered this way is maybe near impossible. I mean they get indignant when you tell them what you want to do. It's like they can't begin to realize, they are actually in a service industry...OMG. Sorry, there's a doctor or two here and that's just kinda stereotyping but it's more than somewhat true.
 
Well she's banned now but here's some of her thoughts. There should be a longer thread with a bunch of the actual vaccines and their contents somewhere.

Give me credit when you post it? Sure Credited: asimplegirl

Hep B..delayed until the year before starting school, or as early as 2 1/2 if starting preschool

Hib...4 mos,6 mos,8 mos, 17 mos

IPV...4 mos, 6 mos, 8 mos, 17 mos, booster at 4 yr

Dtap... (use only deptecel brand with no cox extract and a smaller dose of pertussis compound)5 mos, 7 mos, 9 mos, 15/18 mos boosterat 4 yrs

pneumoccocal...(prevnar) one dose at age 2

varicela... (varivax) 4 yrs if at all

MMR (get separately)
mumps...15 mos
rubella...27 mos
measles...39 mos
booster...age 5 if needed after titers are checked

*some dr's will tell you that you cannot get the mmr separated. Dr Stephanie Care asked for American Medicine to carry these separate immunizations. Owners of AM are Mark and Bridgette Schexnayder. The maker of the three are Merck. AM will need the following from the Dr:

prescription with child's name
copy of the Dr's license

Fax this from the Dr to 225-924-0249

Pay, then they will overnight it to the Dr. Vax's will have 18 mos until exp date.

*Also try Johnson drug.

That's the only piece of it I could immediately find. However, it makes more sense when you look at the actual childhood vaccination list from somewhere else on here.
 
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As far as I can tell she talked to a couple doctors even. I'm no MD, but I know some shit. It looks very legit to me. In fact to be honest though that's conservative, even that might be a bit of overkill on the vaccinations. Though, I'm sure some people would argue it the other way as well.
 
We shopped around and found a doctor who respects parent's choice. And our choice = 0 vaccinations.
Our doctor doesn't even vaccinate his kids.
 
Thanks M House.

Our Dr is great.. very conservative but is a vaccine pusher, handing out CDC sheets and all. Just this last visit, she had said we needed to get the kids up to date for preschool - which is misinfo since there is a waiver, and that it puts her office at risk if dont vaccinate our kids!

So was that an ultimatum from her? She told my wife that.
 
I'm for 0 vaccines, my wife is for getting the vaccines.

Our comprimise was to research each one and get the "essentials".

We also disagree on medication...me being for 0 meds, her for whatever works...comprimise was a Tylenol here and there when they need it.
 
I would add tetanus shot to the list.

Also be careful not to tell the school/state that you selective vaccinated. Some states it is all or none. If you tell them she has some, they might make you get them all before they go into school.
 
Thanks M House.

Our Dr is great.. very conservative but is a vaccine pusher, handing out CDC sheets and all. Just this last visit, she had said we needed to get the kids up to date for preschool - which is misinfo since there is a waiver, and that it puts her office at risk if dont vaccinate our kids!

So was that an ultimatum from her? She told my wife that.

She still around somewhere? I don't know she put alot of thought into it. Did she send you the same thing? I mean jeez how much more vaccinated could they possibly be if you got everything on that list. I don't think I even got all those when I was a kid. However, the national health stuff just gets totally absurd with theirs IMO.
 
I wouldn't go with the chicken pox vaccine. It's possible that yer children could already be immune aka already have herpes zoster. Once you get it you have it yer entire life. So all the vaccine would do would be to give them the virus aka pointless. While yer at it why don't you throw in HSV-1 and HSV-2 aka the naughtier herpes?
 
I don't know it supposedly can prevent a more severe outbreak? Is there actually anyone who can attest to this before I completely discount it?
 
I'm gonna say no it's mostly BS marketing. People clearly get sick usually mildly after getting the vaccination. Doesn't sound much different than getting herpes under a healthy immune system. So I'd let yer kids get it the natural way...their friends. If they haven't got it from coming into contact with you, already.
 
Do you guys mean smallpox? If you mean chickenpox, that is crazy. I had no idea people are vaccinating against that ROFL. When we were kids and my mom heard somebody had chickenpox, we went and played with them all day. I plan on doing the same thing to my kid. Chickenpox party!
 
I'd consider MMR an essential vaccine. Although it doesn't happen often, Measles does have a risk of Subacute Sclerosing Encephalitis, which isn't a friendly complication. Mumps risks sterilizing your kid, and Rubella is really only a major risk if you plan on having future kids (since Rubella is a classic TORCH infection that negatively affects pregnancy). The supposed link with Autism is questionable at best; Measles infection during pregnancy has more of a link with Autism, which really gives more argument towards vaccinating than not.

I'd consider the injected Polio vaccine essential. No sense in risking paralysis in your kid when it's avoidable.

TDap is probably essential, largely for the Tetanus and Diphtheria (though the rest of the country's herd immunity might make the latter less risky). The Pertussis is sort of weak and would require Azithromycin meds if your kid is exposed, even if vaccinated.

HiB is something I'd consider essential, since it is a pretty serious cause of meningitis that focuses on kids on elderly. HiB meningitis likes to result in deafness and seizures, so again if it's something preventable I'd do it.

I don't think HepA and HepB are essential. I don't think Influenza or Pneumococcus are essential. Rotavirus and Neisseria aren't essential. HPV isn't essential. I probably wouldn't find the Chicken Pox vaccine totally necessary, though your kid might look back when he's older and be thankful when he never breaks out in Shingles. Chicken Pox does rarely sometimes lead to Encephalitis and Pneumonia, and it is a problem if a pregnant woman is exposed to the virus. Those are the only real benefits I can see from the vaccine. Otherwise your kid should do fine with some Tylenol (not Aspirin) if he ever does get Chicken Pox.

Just my personal opinion, for whatever it's worth to you.
 
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Do you guys mean smallpox? If you mean chickenpox, that is crazy. I had no idea people are vaccinating against that ROFL. When we were kids and my mom heard somebody had chickenpox, we went and played with them all day. I plan on doing the same thing to my kid. Chickenpox party!

Nope, they have a vaccine for it now. Of course, at least half of the people I know who've gotten the vaccine almost immediately came down with the disease (which is to be expected). The rationale is that it's a "milder" case. It seems a superfluous vaccination to me. The only reason to get it is if your child is already suffering from issues that would get complicated by randomly getting the chicken pox. Giving that kind of child the vaccine and then keeping an eye on them might, in such rare cases, make some sense.

Your kid just getting it and suffering through it as a child is generally the best bet, imo.
 
I'd consider MMR an essential vaccine. Although it doesn't happen often, Measles does have a risk of Subacute Sclerosing Encephalitis, which isn't a friendly complication. Mumps risks sterilizing your kid, and Rubella is really only a major risk if you plan on having future kids (since Rubella is a classic TORCH infection that negatively affects pregnancy). The supposed link with Autism is questionable at best; Measles infection during pregnancy has more of a link with Autism, which really gives more argument towards vaccinating than not.

I'd consider the injected Polio vaccine essential. No sense in risking paralysis in your kid when it's avoidable.

TDap is probably essential, largely for the Tetanus and Diphtheria (though the rest of the country's herd immunity might make the latter less risky). The Pertussis is sort of weak and would require Azithromycin meds if your kid is exposed, even if vaccinated.

HiB is something I'd consider essential, since it is a pretty serious cause of meningitis that focuses on kids on elderly. HiB meningitis likes to result in deafness and seizures, so again if it's something preventable I'd do it.

I don't think HepA and HepB are essential. I don't think Influenza or Pneumococcus are essential. Rotavirus and Neisseria aren't essential. HPV isn't essential. I probably wouldn't find the Chicken Pox vaccine totally necessary, though your kid might look back when he's older and be thankful when he never breaks out in Shingles. Chicken Pox does rarely sometimes lead to Encephalitis and Pneumonia, and it is a problem if a pregnant woman is exposed to the virus. Those are the only real benefits I can see from the vaccine. Otherwise your kid should do fine with some Tylenol (not Aspirin) if he ever does get Chicken Pox.

Just my personal opinion, for whatever it's worth to you.

This sounds like good advice, however I have to disagree about the MMR being suspect. You just hear about to many correlations.. just recently one his close to home.

My wife just talked to her best friend who is pregnant. Her husband's cousin kid just was diagnosed with autism. They too said symptoms came about in time after the MMR. He was vehement about telling them NOT to vaccinate her son when he's born and wished he would've never given the MMR to him. Sad story to hear about these cases and it make you wonder really.

Our son got really sick the day after his MMR for 2 weeks. Our daughter has not gotten the MMR and most everything else.
 
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